Gaming WiiU epiphany!

[Mantis41]

I don't want to make "another one of those threads" but really needed to get something off my chest.

While trawling though some of the WiiU hacked and other threads I started thinking, "What is the WiiU and where does it fit."

My first thought was a kids console. Being a parent myself I am thinking the Wii still fills this role very well. Given that under 6 year olds don't usually give a toss about graphics there would be no point in updating this console unless you are made of money. The only other reason to buy one would be if junior had just started to take an interest in more serious games and you had not yet invested in one of the other two. All in all the market share left for purchasing a kids console would be extremely small given it was already saturated several years ago.

Moving on to a serious gamers console. Once again this was saturated a number of years ago. I was speaking with my Son the other day who has pretty much taken ownership of my old 360. I asked him if he was interested in a WiiU. The thought horrified him. Interestingly enough it had nothing to do with games, graphics or gadgets, it came down to friends. For him, the thought of walking away from the 30 or more people he has developed friendships and regularly games with horrified him. I got to thinking that many gamers are probably in the same boat and for them to walk away from there current gaming groups and comfort zones would take something extremely special. I am not sure any one here would class the WiiU as extremely special. I mean it's ok and has some nice features but special?

Where does that leave the WiiU? I think it is sitting in a saturated market of established consoles, groups, and friends and is fighting for a spot with both the youngsters who have parents with no reason to update and the gaming community who are all waiting for the next big thing. The only market share the WiiU can hope to snare are the parents with cash to burn, the die hard Nintendo fans and possibly a portion of the new gamers just starting out into serious gaming. All in all this is a very small market share for the WiiU to latch onto and I think the reason it is struggling.

For the WiiU to survive and succeed in the current saturated marked it would have to have come out with an almighty BANG! Instead it has come out with a slight fizz followed by a very small pop.

 

[spinal_cord]

Perhaps it's just an experiment like the DSi was. A test to see if people would accept the hardware/software before releasing their next console, based on some of the features that the WiiU has.

 

[Pong20302000]

guess it depends on the Area
where i am Wii's and WiiU's are where its at

Sony's consoles being used as far as the PS2, PS3 is either regarded as Too expensive, For the Older gamers or Very Violent game
Microsoft consoles seen as yes there are good but Too many Shooters, people are becoming sick of COD & parents are actually getting told off for purchasing it for there children (finally)
Nintendo on the other hand are where the parents are going, there cheaper consoles and have a more variety of games that are a lot more child friendl but they still have the games for the teens/Older teens and even the adults too.

guess its all down to the parents and how disciplined there children are as COD is being seen in a worse and worse light these days and people actually having the guts to say "your a bad parent because you let your child play a COD game"

and because other parents are actually supporting this the children cant whine and moan "but all my friends can play it"

guess different parts of the UK are stricter than others

 

[Snailface]

You're over-thinking it. The WiiU is a landing pad for Nintendo 1st Party games. It will succeed or fail based on the merit of those games.

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[ElYubiYubi]

guess it depends on the Area
where i am Wii's and WiiU's are where its at

Sony's consoles being used as far as the PS2, PS3 is either regarded as Too expensive, For the Older gamers or Very Violent game
Microsoft consoles seen as yes there are good but Too many Shooters, people are becoming sick of COD & parents are actually getting told off for purchasing it for there children (finally)
Nintendo on the other hand are where the parents are going, there cheaper consoles and have a more variety of games that are a lot more child friendl but they still have the games for the teens/Older teens and even the adults too.

guess its all down to the parents and how disciplined there children are as COD is being seen in a worse and worse light these days and people actually having the guts to say "your a bad parent because you let your child play a COD game"

and because other parents are actually supporting this the children cant whine and moan "but all my friends can play it"

guess different parts of the UK are stricter than others

*Look at your flag*...Japan...

 

[Pong20302000]

*Look at your flag*...Japan...

looks at the ammount of times you double post and should get a warn for it because you clearly dont know how to use the edit button

people can move around the world you know

maybe like the edit button there are things you have yet to experience

 

[Gahars]

You're over-thinking it. The WiiU is a landing pad for Nintendo 1st Party games. It will succeed or fail based on the merit of those games.

Not necessarily. After all, the N64 and Gamecube both had quality Nintendo titles but failed to live up to their competition by a wide margin.

First party titles alone aren't enough to guarantee success.

 

[Mantis41]

guess it depends on the Area
where i am Wii's and WiiU's are where its at

Sony's consoles being used as far as the PS2, PS3 is either regarded as Too expensive, For the Older gamers or Very Violent game
Microsoft consoles seen as yes there are good but Too many Shooters, people are becoming sick of COD & parents are actually getting told off for purchasing it for there children (finally)
Nintendo on the other hand are where the parents are going, there cheaper consoles and have a more variety of games that are a lot more child friendl but they still have the games for the teens/Older teens and even the adults too.

I guess I was looking at this from a local perspective. I would put a large portion of Japan under the die hard Nintendo fan umbrella which increases the sales footprint somewhat.

 

[Pong20302000]

I guess I was looking at this from a local perspective. I would put a large portion of Japan under the die hard Nintendo fan umbrella which increases the sales footprint somewhat.

i'm on about the current point of view from a part of the UK also

 

[ElYubiYubi]

looks at the ammount of times you double post and should get a warn for it because you clearly dont know how to use the edit button

people can move around the world you know

maybe like the edit button there are things you have yet to experience

What are you talking about?

I mean that Japan is Nintendo territory and is obvious that it sells there...

 

[Pong20302000]

What are you talking about?

I mean that Japan is Nintendo territory and is obvious that it sells there...

-_- im not currently in japan

but seriously you need to stop double posting on threads

 

[emigre]

tl;dr: Wii U has no philosophy.

 

[Mantis41]

i'm on about the current point of view from a part of the UK also

You're probably right. Too many kids are allowed to play hard core games these days. We could argue that the team work and cooperation with friends can out-way the negative aspects and only a susceptible few are actually screwed up, however on the other hand I may only be trying to ease my own guilt as a parent for not having the balls to disallow it.

 

[emigre]

You're probably right. Too many kids are allowed to play hard core games these days. We could argue that the team work and cooperation with friends can out-way the negative aspects and only a susceptible few are actually screwed up, however on the other hand I may only be trying to ease my own guilt as a parent for not having the balls to disallow it.

Honestly is it really that hard to say no? If Niece and Nephew play like playing gaems when their at at my house and if they want to play something that isn't appropriate for them, I'll just say no. I've never understood parents who buy their kids 18 rated gaems.

 

[Pong20302000]

You're probably right. Too many kids are allowed to play hard core games these days. We could argue that the team work and cooperation with friends can out-way the negative aspects and only a susceptible few are actually screwed up, however on the other hand I may only be trying to ease my own guilt as a parent for not having the balls to disallow it.

indeed, as having worked for game distributors i can tell you many children have been annoyed when i denied selling the game to the parents and sometimes grandparents because the parents said it was for them and told them if there child needs to play a game so bad then buy it from elsewhere as i refuse to allow the store to sell a game that is aimed at adults to younger children (im on about parents getting it for the <15's, if a parent is buying it for teh 16 year old there can be some leeway but when a grandmother is being pushed to by this game by a 10 year old grandson they can normally easily be told that they are not allowed it and why, some even said "what if i turned teh sound off, surely its not that bad" i just walked away

 

[Snailface]

Not necessarily. After all, the N64 and Gamecube both had quality Nintendo titles but failed to live up to their competition by a wide margin.

First party titles alone aren't enough to guarantee success.

The Wii didn't have great 3rd party support either. Better than the WiiU, sure, but not enough to put N in the black. 1st party carried them.

As for the N64 and Gamecube, Nintendo was profitable* during those years and good/very good libraries respectively. The profitability of N could have been buoyed by the handheld division, however, giving merit to the "must have strong 3rd party" argument. Not sure exactly, buts that's what I remember from the gaming press at the time.

*Not #1 mind you, but being in the black, which is an important measure of success for a biz.

 

[Gahars]

The Wii didn't have great 3rd party support either. Better than the WiiU, sure, but not enough to put N in the black. 1st party carried them.

I think the Wii was carried more by its control scheme gimmick and the hype surrounding it than the games themselves. The sales slumped pretty dramatically after the hype died down despite the continual output of games from Nintendo.

*snip*

Ah, this just comes down to definition. While Nintendo managed to keep itself afloat and post some profits, it also lost significant market share. I'd argue that means they weren't successful business ventures, but that's just me.

 

[henn64]

Microsoft consoles seen as yes there are good but Too many Shooters, people are becoming sick of COD & parents are actually getting told off for purchasing it for there children (finally)

It's about time this happens!

guess its all down to the parents and how disciplined there children are as COD is being seen in a worse and worse light these days and people actually having the guts to say "your a bad parent because you let your child play a COD game"

All everyone at my school talks about is "COD:Ghosts"(yaaay. fish.) and "BF 3" (XD)

 

[tbgtbg]

Perhaps it's just an experiment like the DSi was. A test to see if people would accept the hardware/software before releasing their next console, based on some of the features that the WiiU has.

Except, for the most part, DSi just played regular DS games. WiiU might not have a big library, but it's definitely a full fledged system of its own, not just a Wii with fancy doodads attached.

 

[Pong20302000]

It's about time this happens!


All everyone at my school talks about is "COD:Ghosts"(yaaay. fish.) and "BF 3" (XD)

lol look at all those sheep, real games might actually make there brains melt due to the amount of thinking they would have to do

but its terrible, my 8 year old Half Brother says "why does everyone want to play a game that is boring, all you do it point and pull trigger"
he even beat me in a pokemon battle and i was like WTF where did he learn strategy like this, considering Black and White 1 was his first pokemon game and i have been playing since red and blue, i had planned to go easy on him, proud day