Hacking will someday a working 3ds emulator

[porkiewpyne]

Oh boy. I can so see this turn into the "I dun hav enuf moniez, can i pirate nao?" thread

 

[Originality]

Isn't Japan already committed to creating some sort of transit system with this technology? It's been floating around publicly for a few years now, but there was an official acknowledgment that it was going to be used to power transit trains in the near future for Japan.

Maglev (using electromagnets to lift/levitate the train) is not the same as quantum levitation. For one thing, maglev trains wouldn't work upside down. Quantum levitation locks the positional state of the object above the magnetic field, which means you can not only levitate above the magnet, but also flip the magnet upside down and lock it in the air below it.

Here's the article: Source.

 

[Otase]

I basicaly only want to play 1 game on 3DS, Super Robot Taisen UX
(console also region locked and would need to pay the import + country custom tax so thats seriously expensive as hell)
reason why i bought Vita instead, i wouldnt mind having a 3DS emulator just to play that single game.

 

[Jiro2]

Having an emulator also raises the possibility of 3DS fan translations.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Having an emulator also raises the possibility of 3DS fan translations.

Kinda have to get the roms decrypted first.

 

[darknessblade]

all emulators you can find now are fake, mallware, spam, scam, and virussuses

 

[TackyPie]

Some people don't want to pay any money for their entertainment.

If you dont want to pay then you dont need it.

 

[suly10]

If you dont want to pay then you dont need it.

um, arent most if not all people going to download 3ds games to play when an actual hack has been released? what good is your statement then?

 

[GamerzHell9137]

Oh boy. I can so see this turn into the "I dun hav enuf moniez, can i pirate nao?" thread

.............. *wisper* Project Mirai.....

O.O

 

[Naridar]

Once the 3DS is hacked, it's only a question of time. The system itself is only a little more powerful than a PSP and definitely not as powerful as the Wii, and both have reliable emulators by now (there's even a PSP emu for Android, who could've guessed?)

 

[jowan]

i was joking but you know guys that is not the situation of not want to pay money to my entertainment like dehry said, it's more like here in my country we don't have money to buy nothing, if you don't understand that, too bad it's ok

you people and everyone in the world tend to bad judge everything

Well then, tell your compatriots to grow some balls because your government is one of the most corrupts I've known (yes, I'm aware of the situation in Spain as I've family there). But getting to the main topic, noope, 3DS emulation seems very far away from now, the DSi hans't even been emulated and PSP too, so I guess you0ll have to wait at leats...5 years maybe? Wish I could wirte to you in spanish as I see you don't speak english very well but it's forbidden so, yeah...we have to deal with it

 

[Dork]

Some people don't want to pay any money for their entertainment.

If this is one of your worries you shouldn't really be focusing on video games right now.

And no, there isn't a 3DS emulator and one probably won't show for a very long time.

 

[henn64]

Use your hands head. There are many ways to get entertained

SHHHH! There could be kids on this thread D:

 

[granville]

Once the 3DS is hacked, it's only a question of time. The system itself is only a little more powerful than a PSP and definitely not as powerful as the Wii, and both have reliable emulators by now (there's even a PSP emu for Android, who could've guessed?)

It's a lot more than a "little more" powerful. 3DS is well above the PSP hardware wise. And it's quite obvious when you look at some of the more impressive games on the system such as Kid Icarus Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations and Monster Hunter 3 and 4, Shin'en games, etc. It has been shown to be clearly comparable to the Wii when developers choose to push the hardware (in some cases in the proper hands it can even pull off superior shader effects).

PSP was a noticeable step down from even PS2 power wise and this was quite obvious from even the absolute most impressive games on the system. The most impressive 3DS games made thus far destroy any PSP game from a technical perspective (even God of War). Also the 3DS is still very young and most likely hasn't had its hardware pushed as far as the PSP was.

A 3DS emulator is inevitable, such is the case with any system as popular as it is. It's simply a matter of time. And it may take quite a long time to get to that point, we're not anywhere close to this point (hell it may take many years). But it's going to be more of a challenge on hardware than the PSP was regardless. The 3DS' custom and relatively powerful GPU in particular i'd take a guess will provide some challenges to the emulator designers.

 

[Rydian]

Granville, the 3DS is much more powerful than the DS GPU-wise, but we're not sure on CPU. In addition, it can push as good or better graphics than the Wii because it's rendering to a lower resolution. if the Wii was rendering ~400x240 it could put out better graphics than it does at the default 480i/p.

 

[dehry]

Try to run PCSX2 or DeSmuMe at 100% in a graphic intensive game. No Speedhacks. You will find quickly that most non gaming PCs out there can't do it. That is only a fraction of what a 3DS emulator would require to run.

I suppose if you want an even closer approximation, get Bluestacks and try running GTA Vice City. Although in that case it's a developer's emulator, so they may have some shortcuts and optimization there.

 

[granville]

Granville, the 3DS is much more powerful than the DS GPU-wise, but we're not sure on CPU. In addition, it can push as good or better graphics than the Wii because it's rendering to a lower resolution. if the Wii was rendering ~400x240 it could put out better graphics than it does at the default 480i/p.

It should go without saying that a dual core ARM11 clocked at 268mhz is going to beat the crap out of an ARM7/ARM9 duo (DS CPU). But at this point don't think it's unfair in the slightest to say the 3DS is significantly more powerful than the PSP even CPU wise. From what I gather, a stock ARM11 would beat a MIPS r4000 even with a lower clock speed. And there's no telling what sort of customization was done by Nintendo in their 3DS' SOC ARM11 further.

I've noticed one particular case where an engine that was ported over from the PSP hardware received enhancements that would normally be in line with a system having a faster and smarter CPU. Kingdom Hearts 3D uses the Birth By Sleep engine as a basis. And while the 3DS game likely could have benefited from having a custom built engine specifically for 3DS hardware (or just more development time as BBS had been in development for many years before release and KH3D didn't take nearly as long), the game shows noticeable enhancements over Birth By Sleep not even counting the visual aspect. Both allies and enemies in the game have considerably more intelligent AI than BBS' variants (it was rare you'd even have a single ally in battle in BBS in fact). The areas in the game are also far far larger in size and allow you to perform more acrobatic moves off of surfaces (the collision detection is likely far more advanced than BBS').

I'll also mention Luigi's Mansion 2 in the CPU department due to the ingame physics. It's not quite as easy to compare the actual core visuals to the original GC game due to the rather drastic change in art style of course. They went with much more cartoony and minimalistic approach to the texture detaill, though the game also tends to have lighting similar or better than the GC version as well as more visually diverse and considerably larger sized areas and smarter enemies. It does however share a lot of similar physics to the original game. A lot of cloth elements will react dynamically to your vacuum cleaner (whether it's clothes, curtains, or even paper), some hanging objects such as lights or rope can react to your vacuum, and you can toss around objects that will have physics to how they move around the environments (round objects will bounce and roll around when you shoot them).

The 3D effect also takes its own toll on the 3DS graphics. Adding 3D support to Wii games would probably negate any real improvements you might get by lowering the resolution. Though again the 3DS would still likely have the advantage in shader capability.

My only argument here though is that 3DS is a good deal more powerful than at least the PSP, and it shows when developers put effort into their games. That's not to say there aren't a lot of underpar games out there that don't stress the 3DS hardware, there's a lot of those. But I don't see how it's at all unclear that the 3DS can beat the pants off the PSP hardware if pushed properly. It's also likely going to be much more difficult or at least require better hardware to emulate than PSP.

 

[the_randomizer]

Try to run PCSX2 or DeSmuMe at 100% in a graphic intensive game. No Speedhacks. You will find quickly that most non gaming PCs out there can't do it. That is only a fraction of what a 3DS emulator would require to run.

I suppose if you want an even closer approximation, get Bluestacks and try running GTA Vice City. Although in that case it's a developer's emulator, so they may have some shortcuts and optimization there.

My PC can run most Gamecube and PS2 games just fine. Key word, "most".

 

[henn64]

It should go without saying that a dual core ARM11 clocked at 268mhz is going to beat the crap out of an ARM7/ARM9 duo (DS CPU). But at this point don't think it's unfair in the slightest to say the 3DS is significantly more powerful than the PSP even CPU wise. From what I gather, a stock ARM11 would beat a MIPS r4000 even with a lower clock speed. And there's no telling what sort of customization was done by Nintendo in their 3DS' SOC ARM11 further.

Dual-Core Homebrew?

Kingdom Hearts 3D uses the Birth By Sleep engine as a basis.

MY GOD. (INSTANT BUY)

 

[Arshes91]

Not sure there is a good progress for make a real emulator to the 3ds right now, but i really hope someone have interest to realize one and play some good games one day the 3ds will be hacked and published for testing as homebrew or other stuff.