Hardware Question about 3DS Update messages

[OldClassicGamer]

I'm on 4.4.0-10U, and I keep getting the nag screen about every 24 hours, which isn't really a bother to me to hit cancel, and OK. But finding the download on SD and deleting it rather than formatting my SD would be a more ideal option... I too, am holding off on updates in wait of 3DS liberation. I stayed on 3.15 on my PS3 up until a hacked 3.55 brought back OtherOS++. I by waiting on a hack to be released for my PS3, I really didn't miss a thing. I don't use PSN, and I don't use the Nintendo eShop. Nothing of value is lost.

Bad news. Update is not stored on SD, and It asked me again do I want to start updating
I guess I will be destend to click B and then A for the rest of my life, or meybe hack will one day delete that

 

[rdurbin]

I am not 100% sure but maybe you can completely format the sd card and system memory of the 3ds and make it so it will not say that message anymore. If you don't use eshop you wont have save data so you really wouldn't lose anything, except maybe your mii and progress on some of the built-in apps/games

 

[Eerpow]

Bad news. Update is not stored on SD, and It asked me again do I want to start updating
I guess I will be destend to click B and then A for the rest of my life, or meybe hack will one day delete that

Your 3DS is essentially a brick if you don't update. You won't be able to play any new games, buy things from the eShop or do anything without worrying about confirming the update message. If you want to go through with this there really isn't any other alternative than simply getting another 3DS.

You complain about region lock when by the looks of things most important games are very likely to get western releases, if not from the original devs Nintendo themselves has said that they'll do it. But if you understand Japanese then I don't see what's stopping you from importing a Japanese 3DS already.
The probability of there being a hack made public within the next 2-3 years that actually take advantage of this firmware version is extremely slim. I have my original 3DS on pre 5.0 just in case, but unlike you it doesn't bother me at all as I play new games on my XL instead.

The firmware is never downloaded to the SD, the reseason you didn't get the message a few times is because it pops up whenever it feels like it.

 

[Presto99]

Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're being dumb. Buy a JP 3DS, wait 3+ years, I don't care. Just stop complaining.
The fact that I can't even downvote you makes me sad.

 

[OldClassicGamer]

I am not 100% sure but maybe you can completely format the sd card and system memory of the 3ds and make it so it will not say that message anymore. If you don't use eshop you wont have save data so you really wouldn't lose anything, except maybe your mii and progress on some of the built-in apps/games

Thanks, I formated my 3DS completly.

Your 3DS is essentially a brick if you don't update. You won't be able to play any new games, buy things from the eShop or do anything without worrying about confirming the update message. If you want to go through with this there really isn't any other alternative than simply getting another 3DS.

You complain about region lock when by the looks of things most important games are very likely to get western releases, if not from the original devs Nintendo themselves has said that they'll do it. But if you understand Japanese then I don't see what's stopping you from importing a Japanese 3DS already.
The probability of there being a hack made public within the next 2-3 years that actually take advantage of this firmware version is extremely slim. I have my original 3DS on pre 5.0 just in case, but unlike you it doesn't bother me at all as I play new games on my XL instead.

The firmware is never downloaded to the SD, the reseason you didn't get the message a few times is because it pops up whenever it feels like it.

I don't care about western releases because take a Kid Icarus fore example. Horrible voice acting.

Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're being dumb. Buy a JP 3DS, wait 3+ years, I don't care. Just stop complaining.
The fact that I can't even downvote you makes me sad.

Not everyone has a money for second 3DS. I originaly wanted to buy Japanese 3DS but I didn't because of Skylanders

Bottom line, this issue has been resolved since I formated 3DS system. Now to wait long period for hack...

 

[Eerpow]

Thanks, I formated my 3DS completly.



I don't care about western releases because take a Kid Icarus fore example. Horrible voice acting.



Not everyone has a money for second 3DS. I originaly wanted to buy Japanese 3DS but I didn't because of Skylanders

Bottom line, this issue has been resolved since I formated 3DS system. Now to wait long period for hack...

Then shut up and stop complaining so much about it, if you don't like translations at all and knew you would complain so much about it then you really have no clue how to prioritize things, assuming you know enough Kanji and Japanese in the first place. The chances of a region unlock hack are practically non existent.

And about KI.
I can understand that you may not like the humor etc. but the VA itself has factually a lot of effort put into it, as a result it came out just as professionally as with any other VA in English media. The VA wasn't bad, it's you who just don't seem to like English voice acting at all
Shit, I can understand why someone would want it in Japanese, but for other reasons entirely than the VA quality as it's as good as it can be. In any case unless you're fluent in Japanese you won't understand the story at all due to how the dialog is delivered in the middle of gameplay, so you're better off turning the VA off either in the volume options or the hidden menu.


Also that system reformatting probably did nothing, expect to see the message again the coming days.

 

[OldClassicGamer]

Then shut up and stop complaining so much about it, if you don't like translations at all and knew you would complain so much about it then you really have no clue how to prioritize things, assuming you know enough Kanji and Japanese in the first place. The chances of a region unlock hack are practically non existent.

And about KI.
I can understand that you may not like the humor etc. but the VA itself has factually a lot of effort put into it, as a result it came out just as professionally as with any other VA in English media. The VA wasn't bad, it's you who just don't seem to like English voice acting at all
Shit, I can understand why someone would want it in Japanese, but for other reasons entirely than the VA quality as it's as good as it can be. In any case unless you're fluent in Japanese you won't understand the story at all due to how the dialog is delivered in the middle of gameplay, so you're better off turning the VA off either in the volume options or the hidden menu.


Also that system reformatting probably did nothing, expect to see the message again the coming days.

Wait, how does system formatting not work? I thought that means it removes everything. Problem I had is that update was downloaded before via spotpass, but I didn't want to update it. When I formatted 3DS, I lost everything, even my Miis. I didn't configure internet after formating, and I put parental control on internet and streetpass and everything related to download. I am just wondering what sense does it make that downloaded update was not removed from 3DS after formatting entiere system? (because it was only downloaded and not installed)

P.S, about voice acting, I like English voice acting in Hollywood movies, Disney Classics, and American Games like Uncharted for example.

 

[Eerpow]

The update downloads AND installs, however it doesn't apply the new firmware unless you confirm it. That's why you don't have to wait for it to install after you've pressed A. System Reformatting doesn't format everything as it keeps system files intact including I assume the update as it falls into that category.

 

[rdurbin]

system format should remove everything except which firmware you had installed, since you had it downloaded but not installed it will probably remove that message, as long as you make sure to keep spotpass/wifi and all that stuff disabled. now its very possible that the update that auto downloaded may not be removed from a system format just like how it keeps the current firmware that you are on, but I highly doubt it.

 

[OldClassicGamer]

system format should remove everything except which firmware you had installed, since you had it downloaded but not installed it will probably remove that message, as long as you make sure to keep spotpass/wifi and all that stuff disabled. now its very possible that the update that auto downloaded may not be removed from a system format just like how it keeps the current firmware that you are on, but I highly doubt it.

Only time will tell will message still exist or not. After formatting, I didn't configure internet at all and In parental Control I disabled StreetPass. I cannot check SpotPass because that is on internet settings and my wifi is off, but because I never configured anything after update, I will assume its off. Well, time to never go online again with 3DS and search for games that are released before March 25, 2013

 

[OldClassicGamer]

The update downloads AND installs, however it doesn't apply the new firmware unless you confirm it. That's why you don't have to wait for it to install after you've pressed A. System Reformatting doesn't format everything as it keeps system files intact including I assume the update as it falls into that category.

It seems annoying message dissappeared forever

 

[Rydian]

If it can be deleted with a system format, that's actually really useful info to know!

 

[OldClassicGamer]

If it can be deleted with a system format, that's actually really useful info to know!

Yeah, System Format deletes it. Now my 3DS can rest easy before region free hack becommes avalible, and bypass firmware check hack, so I can play new games too

 

[Shadow#1]

u wont beable to play newer games using that trick because said game will not work without its update installed that it has LOL

 

[OldClassicGamer]

u wont beable to play newer games using that trick because said game will not work without its update installed that it has LOL

Game wouldn't work normally without update of course, but when 3DS gets hacked, Either Homebrew Loader would bypass System Version check or some ROM Extractor program could extract 3DS rom from cartridge and you can patch the rom with tools on PC. PS3 3.55 CFW can play all new games, so I fail to see why 3DS will not be able to, of course once it gets fully hacked

 

[Arras]

Game wouldn't work normally without update of course, but when 3DS gets hacked, Either Homebrew Loader would bypass System Version check or some ROM Extractor program could extract 3DS rom from cartridge and you can patch the rom with tools on PC. PS3 3.55 CFW can play all new games, so I fail to see why 3DS will not be able to, of course once it gets fully hacked

This does not have to happen (and is in fact somewhat unlikely for a console/handheld) but it's possible that the SDK gets updated with some new functions that are only supported in the new firmware, like how iOS 5 offers some features and things iOS 4 does not. In that case just a simple check bypass won't be enough, the new firmware will need to be cracked as well.

 

[Eerpow]

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This! In some cases the update will be needed in order for the software to even function, what this exploit could potentially allow is current game region unlock and more importantly homebrew.

 

[OldClassicGamer]

This does not have to happen (and is in fact somewhat unlikely for a console/handheld) but it's possible that the SDK gets updated with some new functions that are only supported in the new firmware, like how iOS 5 offers some features and things iOS 4 does not. In that case just a simple check bypass won't be enough, the new firmware will need to be cracked as well.

Thanks for explaining it

 

[OldClassicGamer]

If it can be deleted with a system format, that's actually really useful info to know!

I know this is off topic, but it's only one small question. On Japanese 3DS, can you change system menu to English?

 

[Shadow#1]

I know this is off topic, but it's only one small question. On Japanese 3DS, can you change system menu to English?

nope same with dsi can't switch to English