Sony US Stores Cut Vita Price by $100

[pokefloote]

What if the wifi versions aren't being cut at all, just the 3G models because they're being phased out (and require a contract, soo at&t has their foot in this deal as well)

Not expecting such a drastic drop for wifi models. (if any)

I want a damn vita so bad (only for Persona 4 Golden) but at the price I can get a bunch of 3DS games instead and just zipgjorsigsrg
I keep failing to go through with it.

 

[Joe88]

class only refers to write speed, something that isnt very important in game system where it would be important in a digital camera

 

[Foxi4]

I'm not quite sure I understand this thread...

People are upset that a games console got a price cut. Hmm...

Oh, and the whole Memory Card debacle? It truly is odd that a Sony device uses a Sony's proprietary cards, just like zillions of other Sony devices before, not to mention that the cards are expensive only to bounce back on the cheap hardware. Yes, it's cheap considering the specs.

 

[kristianity77]

I think what annoyed people was on first release was that you bought the console, and then bought a game. And a few of the release games we like "not got a memory card? Then there will be no saving for you my friend" even though the Vita carts are perfectly capable of allowing saves on the cart! It was and still is a massive con that finally, consumers are seeing through. If the Vita was all that was available for hand held gaming then Sony could do what they like with regards to pricing etc and people would pay it. But in the age of DS, 3DS, mobiles, tablets and all manor of other little gadgets, people dont fall for that shit anymore

 

[Veho]

Oh, and the whole Memory Card debacle? It truly is odd that a Sony device uses a Sony's proprietary cards, just like zillions of other Sony devices before, not to mention that the cards are expensive only to bounce back on the cheap hardware.

Who said it was odd? It's just not a popular decision.

And their previous devices could share the memory card with other Sony devices. The only device that uses Vita's memory cards is Vita.

 

[Foxi4]

I think what annoyed people was on first release was that you bought the console, and then bought a game. And a few of the release games we like "not got a memory card? Then there will be no saving for you my friend" even thought the Vita carts are perfectly capable of allowing saves on the cart! It was and still is a massive con that finally, consumers are seeing through. If the Vita was all that was available for hand held gaming then Sony could do what they like with regards to pricing etc and people would pay it. But in the age of DS, 3DS, mobiles, tablets and all manor of other little gadgets, people dont fall for that shit anymore

While I realize the concerns about not being able to save directly onto the cartridge, this has certain benefits - you can backup your saves with no backup device at all, you can keep your saves if you choose to sell/trade in your game and if you ever happen to re-buy it for whatever reason, your saves are where you left'em and finally, the PSVita or frankly any other contemporary device is pretty useless without any storage - there's loads of apps that are worth downloading from the PSN Store.

Let's face it, a memory card is a must this way or another to fully enjoy the system and if you really want it just for saves, the 4GB ones are cheapo.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

The DS lite was the last game system I've ever bought and I really don't plan to buy any more. They make too much of a game out of getting the games these days, what with DLC and digital distribution and too much forced online interactivity, even for a single-player game. They can keep it. I don't care about online gaming, leaderboard rankings or any of that. I just want to play my single-player game by myself and don't wish to make my status in any game public to anyone else. It's nobody's business unless I want it to be known, in which case, I'd post that sort of information on a site like this one.

I also prefer to be able to go into a store and buy my game, have a box and a disk/cart (whatever) as opposed to paying for just a download. I also don't like being nickel-and-dimed with DLC, most of which should have just came with the game in the first place.

In the specific case of the Sony Vita, their overpriced accessories, such as their proprietary memory cards, sour my taste for even considering their handheld.

Maybe if it ever gets hacked to play all the games for free, then I may see it as practical and get one, but not before then.

I have over a dozen legacy system emu's on my PC. I'll just play those and all the older games I have that don't track every little thing I've done with the game and save my money for more important things.

Honestly, I don't even play online that much. Like I know so many people who will take online seriously, and even leaderboards. And me and my friend the other day broke top 100 in Nano Assault Neo, and I'm like "No, okay, I'm more than happy with that. I don't care if I get number 1 or anything" and we weren't even trying. We were just trying to get a good score.

Online has become a bit boring in my opinion. Unless it's a good adventure game, in which case I haven't played one in a long time. Maybe that X game from Monolith might be good. I like to be able to take my time and enjoy everything.

But shit, this DLC stuff has to stop. In most cases, the DLC is able to fit on the disc no problem. I don't know why or understand how people can buy DLC that say, adds a few guns/weapons/items/clothing. When I buy DLC, I want to get hours out of it, which is why I think Borderlands 2 is the only, and last game I will buy DLC for. Even Black Ops 2 or any shooter that adds 1-3 maps for 10-15 bucks isn't justified. It doesn't cost that much to make them, especially remade maps.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Honestly, I don't even play online that much. Like I know so many people who will take online seriously, and even leaderboards. And me and my friend the other day broke top 100 in Nano Assault Neo, and I'm like "No, okay, I'm more than happy with that. I don't care if I get number 1 or anything" and we weren't even trying. We were just trying to get a good score.

Online has become a bit boring in my opinion. Unless it's a good adventure game, in which case I haven't played one in a long time. Maybe that X game from Monolith might be good. I like to be able to take my time and enjoy everything.

But shit, this DLC stuff has to stop. In most cases, the DLC is able to fit on the disc no problem. I don't know why or understand how people can buy DLC that say, adds a few guns/weapons/items/clothing. When I buy DLC, I want to get hours out of it, which is why I think Borderlands 2 is the only, and last game I will buy DLC for. Even Black Ops 2 or any shooter that adds 1-3 maps for 10-15 bucks isn't justified. It doesn't cost that much to make them, especially remade maps.

How about Fallout or Elder Scrolls DLC?

 

[Foxi4]

What if the wifi versions aren't being cut at all, just the 3G models because they're being phased out (and require a contract, soo at&t has their foot in this deal as well)

False. 3G PSVita's are sold with the DataConnect Pass plan - there is no contract, the payment is month-to-month and it's entirely optional. If you don't feel like buying a Data Package for your SIM, you don't have to.

You have the option to top up your SIM - by $30 for which you get 3GB or by $15 for which you get a measily 250MB. The packages include complimentary access to all of AT&T's WiFi Hotspots, they last 30 days.

The contract myth is what's scaring customers away from the 3G PSVita in the U.S. when there actually are no contracts at all, nor there are any long-term payment plans involved - you pay as you go whenever you need a Data Package.

Source

 

[koimayeul]

Good news! Should have happen sooner, to get 3rd party support and exclusives but what's done is done..

I can only promote the Vita, i got mine a month ago with Ninja Gaiden Sigma + and it is just phenomenal, somewhere between ps2 and ps3 in terms of quality, way more 3 than 2. Superb and extra sensitive OLED touch screen. Another good point is about the PSOne Classics, those were a let down for me on the PSP (3000) but a DELIGHT on a Vita, perfect emulation of the 4/3 screen. Right now only the PSP games i don't like on Vita, the brightness even at max is rendering them too dark which feels way too different from playing on an original PSP. Colors are also much different. Though the custom settings for sticks and buttons are a great help for some games.

All it misses is SONY to sign for an exclusive appealing to Japan first and foremost but also worldwide userbase like say, Final Fantasy VII remake to kill charts and BOMB.. Remote play for all ps4 titles and using the Vita as an extra display screen is a good selling point too sometimes later. It really feels to me the Vita got on the market too early with its brilliant high tech and its real purpose being to get along with the next gen ps4. Really deserve more success and GAMES.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Boohoo memory cards. It's a one time investment. Just fucking deal with it.

You're acting like memory card prices are going to kill the console. They are not.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Boohoo memory cards. It's a one time investment. Just fucking deal with it.

You're acting like memory card prices are going to kill the console. They are not.

Really? Because they don't seem to be helping the Vita at all. If memory serves correctly, when I went to the store, you could buy Memory Cards for the PS2 and PS1, a lot cheaper, and can also buy other named memory cards as well, not just Sony memory cards.

 

[Foxi4]

Boohoo memory cards. It's a one time investment. Just fucking deal with it.

Honestly, when I was getting my 32GB one... it hurt a little... but then I realized:

"Shite, I need some place to store all of'em PSPlus games!"

So yes, I'm quite happy with the investment. To be perfectly honest, I haven't really spent much on the system or the games so-far and I'm swimming in content.

Really? Because they don't seem to be helping the Vita at all. If memory serves correctly, when I went to the store, you could buy Memory Cards for the PS2 and PS1, a lot cheaper, and can also buy other named memory cards as well, not just Sony memory cards.

Because third-parties reverse-engineered the original memory cards? (poorly, I might add - at least in the case of the PS2. Not all third-party memory cards function properly at all times which is painfuly apparent whan using homebrew on the system)

//thread

 

[Chary]

Good for Sony. This might be helpful to them, although, after taking this long for a price cut, people might not care anymore. When the 3DS got its price cut, there were no competitors, so people bought it in droves. (IIRC, Vita wasn't released by this time, right?) Even with the price cut, the Vita still has to compete with the 3DS, AND the doom-Sayers claiming the Vita is dead in the water. I think that if Sony had chosen to do this earlier, it would have had a greater effect.

Meh. Guess we'll just have to wait and see how this goes.

 

[Veho]

You're acting like memory card prices are going to kill the console. They are not.

No, the price of the console itself is going to kill it

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Really? Because they don't seem to be helping the Vita at all. If memory serves correctly, when I went to the store, you could buy Memory Cards for the PS2 and PS1, a lot cheaper, and can also buy other named memory cards as well, not just Sony memory cards.

I'm not saying it's helping but I think people are grasping for straws here. Sony cuts the price, people will complain about a lack of games. Sony gives it games, people will complain about memory cards. Sony cuts memory card prices, people will still complain that it's not a standard MicroSD or some other widely available form of storage.

Like can't we just say "Wow, $200 for a 3G Vita is great" and stop trying to diminish a positive step forward? Like some people here seem so hellbent on saying "THE VITA WILL FAIL" that they'll jump ship to another point once their previous point is dead in the water.

EDIT: I'm starting to think that heartgold and friends had to amp up the Sony hatred once soulx became, you know, levelheaded.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I'm not saying it's helping but I think people are grasping for straws here. Sony cuts the price, people will complain about a lack of games. Sony gives it games, people will complain about memory cards. Sony cuts memory card prices, people will still complain that it's not a standard MicroSD or some other widely available form of storage.

Like can't we just say "Wow, $200 for a 3G Vita is great" and stop trying to diminish a positive step forward? Like some people here seem so hellbent on saying "THE VITA WILL FAIL" that they'll jump ship to another point once their previous point is dead in the water.

EDIT: I'm starting to think that heartgold and friends had to amp up the Sony hatred once soulx became, you know, levelheaded.

But that's the thing. It's the 3G version that's cut, not the regular. And even then, you can't really say there's a huge library of games. Even the 3DS had more variety and a better library after one year, the Vita still doesn't have that. I'm not saying that there isn't any, I'm just saying there isn't enough.

And memory cards are waaay too over priced, and they should have been MicroSD, or SD even. Or hell, just put like 4GB of on board memory so people can put music and such on it, and make saves and everything for games, be saved on the games themselves, like the 3DS.

 

[retKHAAAN]

If you're looking for a wifi vita bundle, here's a comparable price (with an actual retail game included but no memory card )...

http://www.target.com/p/playstation...-/A-14277759#prodSlot=medium_1_4&term=ps+vita

 

[Guild McCommunist]

But that's the thing. It's the 3G version that's cut, not the regular. And even then, you can't really say there's a huge library of games. Even the 3DS had more variety and a better library after one year, the Vita still doesn't have that. I'm not saying that there isn't any, I'm just saying there isn't enough.

And memory cards are waaay too over priced, and they should have been MicroSD, or SD even. Or hell, just put like 4GB of on board memory so people can put music and such on it, and make saves and everything for games, be saved on the games themselves, like the 3DS.

Then buy the 3G version. It's the same as the WiFi except you have the option of paying for 3G. You can use it as a WiFi Vita if you want.

The Vita has a decent library, there's quite a few games I enjoy on it, but yes it's something they need to work on and something they will work on. A price cut is still a step forward. Can we just for once say "Sony is doing good!" instead of bitching like a bunch of fucking little girls and say "WAAAAHHHH STILL NO GAMES." Well no shit, but this shows signs of progress. Factor in Japanese sales showing that, with software and the cheaper price, the system can sell quite well, and Sony knows the formula to make the Vita work.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Then buy the 3G version. It's the same as the WiFi except you have the option of paying for 3G. You can use it as a WiFi Vita if you want.

The Vita has a decent library, there's quite a few games I enjoy on it, but yes it's something they need to work on and something they will work on. A price cut is still a step forward. Can we just for once say "Sony is doing good!" instead of bitching like a bunch of fucking little girls and say "WAAAAHHHH STILL NO GAMES." Well no shit, but this shows signs of progress. Factor in Japanese sales showing that, with software and the cheaper price, the system can sell quite well, and Sony knows the formula to make the Vita work.

That's exactly it. Software sells hardware, especially in the case of handhelds. A $250 handheld shouldn't be out of the question in today's market. Nintendo learned the hard way, as has Sony now. Both are fully capable of turning it around, but with fickle publishers and investors it's really a race against time.

Now that I'm thinking about it...I haven't seen a single commercial for a single piece of Vita software (or hardware) in a criminal amount of time... Software sells hardware, but you also have to market software in order for it to sell...

Even this sale, for instance. If they were to actually make the public aware of it rather than let info trickle from niche websites, they would definitely get somewhere. The fact that they're not leads me to think they're only targeting niche gamers and don't want to take on any more loss on hardware than they have to to push a few more out the door. As far as I've seen, the sales is limited to Sony stores.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

That's exactly it. Software sells hardware, especially in the case of handhelds. A $250 handheld shouldn't be out of the question in today's market. Nintendo learned the hard way, as has Sony now. Both are fully capable of turning it around, but with fickle publishers and investors it's really a race against time.

Now that I'm thinking about it...I haven't seen a single commercial for a single piece of Vita software (or hardware) in a criminal amount of time... Software sells hardware, but you also have to market software in order for it to sell...

I saw a few commercials for Assassin's Creed: Liberation, Blops: Declassified (talk about a wasted ad campaign), and MLB The Show '12. I also saw some ads for the Vita itself when it was launched.

I haven't seen a ton of 3DS ads though, maybe one for Kid Icarus: Uprising and Super Mario 3D Land. Yet again you don't see a ton of ads for video games in general on TV.