GCW Zero Meets Its Goal, supported games announced

[Rydian]

Nostalgiaaaa~

I ordered a used Dreamcast and an unopened copy of PSO Online Ver 2 like seven years ago or something just to play offline... and while I ended up getting and playing other games for it, PSO ver2 was what I clocked the most hours into, by far.

EDIT: Off-topic post is off-topic.

 

[Another World]

Is that ridiculous?

yes, 100%. buying a system for 1 game is completely ridiculous. especially when you consider the cost of modern systems, controllers, memory cards, cables, etc.

also, price being the reason? Confirmed.

by someone not from the team? i actually know why they didn't include higher res and it wasn't money related.

i never once said YOU should buy it. what i said was your reasons for not wanting it do not make any sense to me. you are coming off, to me at least, as being incredibly negative about this device because you, personally, are upset it can't render the text on a handful of rpgs. writing off the entire thing, before you have even had an opportunity to use one, its an obtuse view.

-another world

 

[Rydian]

yes, 100%. buying a system for 1 game is completely ridiculous.

There you go again, trying to dictate what I should and shouldn't buy for my own entertainment...

by someone not from the team? i actually know why they didn't include higher res and it wasn't money related.

Sounded like they're related, what with having additional info, if not I would like to hear from the team, but Idunno' who's who, and since this seems intentional it's unlikely to change anyways (especially this late into development).

either way, i'm done with this topic now. thank you for that. you are being incredibly negative about this device because you, personally, are upset it can't render the text on a handful of rpgs.

AW, what in the world has your panties in such a wrinkle that you skimmed my posts so hard that you didn't even look at the images? It's not just RPG text.

writing off the entire thing, before you have even had an opportunity to use one, its an obtuse view.

-another world

Why would I buy a product that I already know won't do what I desire?

 

[Another World]

There you go again, trying to dictate what I should and shouldn't buy for my own entertainment...

i am doing no such thing. its fine if you truly only game for the sake of a few emulated experiences. what i have issue with is writing off the entire system because of that reason.

Sounded like they're related, what with having additional info, if not I would like to hear from the team, but Idunno' who's who, and since this seems intentional it's unlikely to change anyways (especially this late into development).

perhaps you should check your facts before you quote them as such. the team is on the kickstarter

AW, what in the world has your panties in such a wrinkle that you skimmed my posts so hard that you didn't even look at the images? It's not just RPG text.

your images only prove that you feel there is no reason to play ANY snes game if its not running on bsnes. i do not feel that way at all. i own a snes and i enjoy it. when i game on the go i don't expect a perfect experience, i expect to have fun. if the other 200 or so games i have with me work great, i'm having fun. for the few that don't i'll stick to other ways to enjoy them, be it actual hardware or emulation tweaked for their unique performance.

another world is my best example. it has changed across almost every platform it has been on. sometimes its slower, sometimes its harder, sometimes the graphics aren't as great, sometimes its hampered by crappy touch screen controls. no matter what i always enjoy it, even with the frustration that might come with hardware disappointment. but, i see now (and i mean after talking with you all this time, not this single topic), that you do not feel that way. if its not the way you assumed it would be then it isn't worth your time. please correct me if i'm not interpreting your comments correctly.

-another world

 

[Rydian]

i am doing no such thing. its find if you truly only game for the sake of a few emulated experiences. what i have issue is writing off the entire system because of that reason.

The other things didn't interest me in the first place, it's the emulation that did. The other things are either functions I already have portably (video playing, music playing, web browsing), or ports of games that already play well on other systems (the few I'm somewhat familiar with, at least).

perhaps you should check your facts before you quote them as such. the team is on the kickstarter

Hey now, I went where you told me to go...

your images only prove that you feel there is no reason to play ANY snes game if its not running on bsnes.

My images are from ZSNES/SNES9X (with different output settings). In the original post I linked, I even noted the filtering option that SNES9x used that gave me a false impression at first when testing it out. I don't even use BSNES to play games. I keep it around for exploration and testing. For playing, I use SNES9x (general play) or ZSNES (quick screengrabs and hotkey-capable cheat search).

if its not the way you assumed it would be then it isn't worth your time. please correct me if i'm not interpreting your comments correctly.

-another world

Still skimming, I see.

Hey, let's try something.

See this?

This is a vibrator. You should buy it.

• "But I don't have any use for it."
  But you like electronics, so you should buy it.
  
  
• "I don't want to buy it because I won't use a vibrator."
  But you could, think of all the things you could do!
  
  
• "No, I won't buy it because I have no interest in using it."
  But what about the community of people backing it? It's not just for raw sexual pleasure, it'll also help you let off steam and the concept is backed by several health and wellness committees.
  
  
• "I'm not going to purposely spend money on something I won't use."
  Take your blinders off, this is a good product!

The GCW Zero is one of the most powerful devices we've seen yet, it seems to have great software support (always been a fear with other devices), and is taking into account all sorts of people that want to use it, not just emulation enthusiasts.

But I will not buy it because I do not want it because it will not play the games I want to play properly.

 

[Costello]

must... win... internet... argument...

seriously guys one of you just give up already... you have different opinions and let's leave it at that

 

[Another World]

i'm asking for confirmation so that i do not assume. assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups, rydian. stop going for the goat. the vibrator example is distasteful and completely unrelated to gaming and my reasons for questioning your emulation opinions and your reasons for not wanting the zero.

must... win... internet... argument...

seriously guys one of you just give up already... you have different opinions and let's leave it at that

done. sleep calls me.

-another world

 

[Rydian]

I'm concerned that AW's getting up my ass about me NOT wanting to buy a product.

I mean seriously, am I missing something important here?

the vibrator example is distasteful and completely unrelated to gaming

And the PS3 example, and the Macbook Pro example?

Seriously, what's gotten into you?

 

[Veho]

the vibrator example is distasteful and completely unrelated to gaming and my reasons for questioning your emulation opinions and your reasons for not wanting the zero.

It's a stretch, but it's still pretty apt. It's a device that does stuff Rydian doesn't need, but can't do what Rydian wants it to do. Now his needs might be a bit special specific, but if the GCW doesn't meet them, he should be free to not be ecstatic about it / not buy it.

 

[Prior22]

I'm looking at the emulation listing and am really confused. For the same price one could buy a PSP, which emulates all the systems and handhelds on the list (plus the PSX). And I get a few dozen quality PSP exclusive games to play as well. So whats the incentive to purchase this (other than to support the homebrew community). I suppose one could hope for quality N64 emulation, but who knows how long it will take to have a large number of the most wanted N64 titles running well.

PS: quite frankly i don't think many people will go out and shell 130 dollars to have access to the indy titles. its one thing to shell out a few dollars for these titles on the iphone. but paying 130 dollars to get access to these types of games is a whole different ballgame.

 

[Surkow]

@Prior22, this might be an interesting comparison for you. It gets a bit tiresome when people bring up the PSP.

 

[Prior22]

@Prior22, this might be an interesting comparison for you. It gets a bit tiresome when people bring up the PSP.

Alright so there's a few SNES titles, and possibly GBA titles, which run poorly on the PSP but smoothly on the GCW. Is that enough to warrant spending 130 dollars (especially if you already have a PSP). I'm sure Saturn emulation is out of the question, but until significant N64 progress is made I salute the developers for putting their time into a new piece of hardware but wouldn't seriously consider buying it.

 

[Kouen Hasuki]

@Prior22, this might be an interesting comparison for you. It gets a bit tiresome when people bring up the PSP.

I was never impressed by that PR Stunt due to the fact frankly if you got a much more powerful unit it better emulate something better than a 6+ year old device xD

 

[taydor_b]

I'm still going to play Secret of Mana on the Zero. It looks like it runs well. Besides the opening name your character menu, the words are going to look fine since they are not using the same size font. I'm going to spend more time on the game slashing monster up and down instead of slightly misreading the occasional menu. I've also played the game enough times that even if it were impossible to read something, I would most likely still know what it was.

Don't let something so little as this problem ruin a great game for you, Rydian.

 

[gundalf]

Alright so there's a few SNES titles, and possibly GBA titles, which run poorly on the PSP but smoothly on the GCW. Is that enough to warrant spending 130 dollars (especially if you already have a PSP). I'm sure Saturn emulation is out of the question, but until significant N64 progress is made I salute the developers for putting their time into a new piece of hardware but wouldn't seriously consider buying it.

I don't want to sound rude, but if money/price is an argument for you, then you are not the target audience.

 

[Aeter]

I think many people don't realize that you can't expect perfection from a multipurpose emulation handheld whilst trying to keep it affordable for main public.
The part that makes this stand out in comparison with other devices like it, is mostly the software and support behind it.

 

[Johnny on Flame]

Oh my god I can't play my games! They're unplayable without blending effects/unreadeable text!

Wait what? Oh, BTW, These are actual screenshots taken using fbgrab on the GCW Zero.
Give a chance for the device BEFORE you judge it.



And I'm pretty sure your vibrator can't render blending effects.

 

[Another World]

@Prior22

one other thing you should take into consideration is the fact that the zero is being actively developed for. its backed by a community that basically made the dingoo popular. its a scene that became so popular that its now about the operating system and not the hardware. where as, the psp scene has slowed down to the point that we are not finding updates for emulation nor are we seeing new software released.

i love my psp, i've received a great deal of enjoyment out of it, but it doesn't do everything i want. i have also been extremely unsuccessful getting any program bugs addressed or updates like analog controls regressions fixed. developers have always had the same thing to say to me, that they have moved onto android and ios, or have lost interest in psp development.

quite frankly i don't think many people will go out and shell 130 dollars to have access to the indy titles.

i agree completely. while the device is officially billed as a indy device, its supported by a community built upon emulation. there will be legitimate indy titles released for the zero, but the majority of owners are most probably going to be interested in emulation, just as you have suggested.

I'm concerned that AW's getting up my ass about me NOT wanting to buy a product.

what i typed was not designed as an attack on your personality and truly had nothing to do with you personally wanting or not wanting to buy the zero. my responses were intended to further a debate on the idea of not wanting something that does a thousand-and-1 things because 5 of them do not meet your expectations. i did not take it personally, i did not type out of emotion, nor did i purposely try to illicit an emotional response. it seems that you may have assumed, that i attempted to attack you as a person, for your unique beliefs.

in all honesty, i was utterly flabbergasted to find out that you would not consider enjoying a zero based on your reasons, and that most probably played a part in the crafting of my sentences. i have always felt that you were more of an experimental gamer who spent time exploring unique games and experiences. after all our discussions and interactions, i had no idea that you would present such a defensive stance for your view. we will never see eye-to-eye on this, because to me the issues with the zero are extremely trivial.

-another world

 

[Johnny on Flame]

A few more screenshots.

 

[DominoBright]

Um, not trying to knock the Zero since I intend on getting one based on what it CAN do, but the Japanese characters in that last screenshot look broken and aren't supposed to look like that in game.