Connecticut School Shooting

[BORTZ]

Sandy Hook Elementary School.

27 dead.
18 of those were children...

Why does this keep happening
This has been reported to be the deadliest of US school shootings. It happened in a little town of Newtown, Connecticut. The sweep is still going on, but it looks like they found the alleged shooter (dead) along with two handguns at the scene.

Source: LA Times

 

[emigre]

Shirely a debate on rethinking the culture and accessibility on guns should actually happen?

Seriously the relative regularity this happens in the US is really ridiculous, no one's perfect but honestly. I guess the gun lobbying group will try to dismiss any discussion.

 

[BORTZ]

I mean I like guns and stuff, but why people use them for killing others like this...

I mean drugs are illegal, but that doesn't keep them off the street. It's just sad.

 

[Recorderdude]

there's always going to be one idiot to ruin anything for everyone else that acts responsibly with it, be it internet chat (child predators), weaponry (shootings like this) or even something as trivial as a cartoon (like that kid that killed himself after a character in naruto temporarily died).

If anything, this incident in particular should send out a red alert that schools are defenseless against people like this and should have either a safe place to dart to through safety instruction to all teachers and students or teachers that actually know how to handle a gun and end the carnage before it even begins. Taking away weapons only takes them away from the people that would protect themselves with them, since the criminals will just find some other way to get to them anyway. It's a sad state mankind is in, but better to accept it and be prepared than to deny it and be a victim.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

How many lives is it going to take until America realizes that it needs Gun Control?

 

[emigre]

No disrespect guys but based from a position of observation, it just seems the US has a ridiculousness and unhealthy fixation on guns. The idea that the individual needs a gun to protect oneself seems an idea based out of anxiety and paranoia. I remember reading about the shooting that took place at the Batman premiere a few months ago, there were people with guns and they didn't want to take them out in case they were accused of being the shooter. So yeah, I'm not too convinced having a firearm will guarantee self-protection.

This is not to say a utopia where people don't shoot each other is possible and violent crime will be eradicated. However the US there really is a relatively regular number of these type of shootings. There was one at that Sikh temple recently, Columbine, Virginia Tech, Mumford and Delaware. And these are just off the top of my head. In comparison to the UK where we have pretty tight gun laws, there was Cumbria (2010) before that Dunblane (1996) (where teh aftermath led to tighter gun control) and Hungerford (1987).

I remember reading something there's like 90 guns to 100 people in the US. That's a fucking insane figure. I won't proclaim tighter gun control and shift in attitude regarding gun culture will magically stop violent crime but there's nothing to suggest it would make things worse.

 

[BORTZ]

something there's like 90 guns to 100 people in the US.

...In my house hold alone, there are over 20 some guns. Im (obviously) in favor of guns, honestly. But there need to be tighter restrictions or more intelligent use...

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Tragic story, not much else to say about it. Within 15 minutes of the story breaking there was like 5 people posting about it on Facbeook. Social networking, eh?

But yeah let's not turn this into a gun control circlewank and focus on the tragedy at hand and give our condolences.

 

[Hells Malice]

there's always going to be one idiot to ruin anything for everyone else that acts responsibly with it, be it internet chat (child predators), weaponry (shootings like this) or even something as trivial as a cartoon (like that kid that killed himself after a character in naruto temporarily died).

If anything, this incident in particular should send out a red alert that schools are defenseless against people like this and should have either a safe place to dart to through safety instruction to all teachers and students or teachers that actually know how to handle a gun and end the carnage before it even begins. Taking away weapons only takes them away from the people that would protect themselves with them, since the criminals will just find some other way to get to them anyway. It's a sad state mankind is in, but better to accept it and be prepared than to deny it and be a victim.

This argument would be more sound, if there was more gun violence in even the US' neighbor, Canada.
Shit like this does NOT happen in Canada. Not even nearly as much, or as bad. Sure, shit happens, but there's a reason Canada is a hell of a lot more peaceful.
Just a quick example but en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting
That list alone shows a staggering difference in violent acts. But even just in general, it's a lot more shocking to hear about gun violence in Canada. It just doesn't happen anywhere near as often.
The world needs gun control, not surplussing guns and getting them into the hands of every man, woman and child...that's just retarded.

 

[BORTZ]

Tragic story, not much else to say about it. Within 15 minutes of the story breaking there was like 5 people posting about it on Facbeook. Social networking, eh?

But yeah let's not turn this into a gun control circlewank and focus on the tragedy at hand and give our condolences.

Guild is right, and I'd rather keep this focused on the families and victims of the shooting, not your immediate reaction to gun control. Thanks.

 

[iggloovortex]

Its interesting to be able to come here and see where you guys are from and see how your location impacts your responses to events

 

[ShadowSoldier]

inb4 a stupid post that tries to be funn... DAMMIT ALANJOHN!

Anyways, this is horrible. I mean, I'll be honest, it may sound heartless, but when it comes to say a college shooting or something similar, it doesn't bug me that much. But these are just kids. That's the lowest of the low. I mean, at least when it comes to college or highschool kids, they kind of got to live their life. But these are just children who are just starting. How big of a coward do you have to be to shoot elementary school kids?

And before I get gangbanged in here because of my thoughts... keep in mind, when it comes to war and Canadian soldiers going to war and dying and shit, I don't care that much either. Hell even when people in my school go missing or end up dying, I don't care that much. So it's nothing against a certain age group or such, it's just the whole young kids thing is what gets to me the worst.

 

[The Catboy]

School shootings are tragic, but the fact that someone would actually shoot up an elementary school is beyond wrong.

 

[AlanJohn]

Come on dude.
Seriously? Video games? What if I told you violence was invented before video games?

Please, this is a serious matter.

No, before Video Games there was TV.
And before that there was Rock.
Don't worry, we'll always find something to blame.

 

[BORTZ]

God, I feel so terrible for those families...

 

[Guild McCommunist]

This isn't the time for your shitposts AJ. Promptly fuck off.

 

[BORTZ]

This isn't the time for your shitposts AJ. Promptly fuck off.

Thank you.

 

[the_randomizer]

How many lives is it going to take until America realizes that it needs Gun Control?

Let me know when criminals start to obey gun control laws. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns don't kill any more than spoons make people fat. People have a right to defend themselves against gun-wielding douchebags, and I don't care as long as they're responsible and have a CWP.

 

[BORTZ]

Let me know when criminals start to obey gun control laws. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns don't kill any more than spoons make people fat. People have a right to defend themselves against gun-wielding douchebags, and I don't care as long as they're responsible and have a CWP.

This is not a thread to discuss gun control, ok. Elsewhere if you please.
Thanks.

 

[the_randomizer]

This is not a thread to discuss gun control, ok. Elsewhere if you please.
Thanks.

I'm not the one who mentioned it in the first place.

I hope this gun-wielding sod burns in hell.