Nintendo to release 3DS transfer tool save app

[heartgold]

Good going, now I can sell off my physical copies and download the digital ones once the tool is released.

That's madness, it really is.

ha' maybe so. I would love to put Zelda oot in my Zelda collection folder which already has zelda 1, zelda 2, links awakening, 4 swords and minish cap. Also Mario 3D land is a perfect fit.

 

[Chary]

This, quite honestly, is a great idea.

 

[emigre]

Good going, now I can sell off my physical copies and download the digital ones once the tool is released.

That's madness, it really is.

ha' maybe so. I would love to put Zelda oot in my Zelda collection folder which already has zelda 1, zelda 2, links awakening, 4 swords and minish cap. Also Mario 3D land is a perfect fit.

Yeah, that's madness.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

WOW You're really desperate if your hoping that this tool will lead to piracy.

 

[SifJar]

I don't see why people seem to think this will benefit piracy in any way.

Many PSP exploits come from loading saves.

Yes, but this requires ripping them from an original cart. Which means that to get the save onto the console, you'd have to already have the corresponding original cart and a means of getting exploited save data onto said cart. At which point, you could just run the exploit using the cart. This makes no difference.

Plus an exploit =/= ability to pirate. Many PSP save-based exploits only loaded HBL, i.e. only usermode homebrew, no ISO loading.

 

[VMM]

I don't see why people seem to think this will benefit piracy in any way.

Many PSP exploits come from loading saves.

Yes, but this requires ripping them from an original cart. Which means that to get the save onto the console, you'd have to already have the corresponding original cart and a means of getting exploited save data onto said cart. At which point, you could just run the exploit using the cart. This makes no difference.

Plus an exploit =/= ability to pirate. Many PSP save-based exploits only loaded HBL, i.e. only usermode homebrew, no ISO loading.

Dunno about you, but I would be pretty happy playing Super Mario World,
Donkey Kong Country and Zelda a Link to the past.

 

[SifJar]

I don't see why people seem to think this will benefit piracy in any way.

Many PSP exploits come from loading saves.

Yes, but this requires ripping them from an original cart. Which means that to get the save onto the console, you'd have to already have the corresponding original cart and a means of getting exploited save data onto said cart. At which point, you could just run the exploit using the cart. This makes no difference.

Plus an exploit =/= ability to pirate. Many PSP save-based exploits only loaded HBL, i.e. only usermode homebrew, no ISO loading.

Dunno about you, but I would be pretty happy playing Super Mario World,
Donkey Kong Country and Zelda a Link to the past.

And what on earth has that got to do with my post? Absolutely nothing.

 

[VMM]

I don't see why people seem to think this will benefit piracy in any way.

Many PSP exploits come from loading saves.

Yes, but this requires ripping them from an original cart. Which means that to get the save onto the console, you'd have to already have the corresponding original cart and a means of getting exploited save data onto said cart. At which point, you could just run the exploit using the cart. This makes no difference.

Plus an exploit =/= ability to pirate. Many PSP save-based exploits only loaded HBL, i.e. only usermode homebrew, no ISO loading.

Dunno about you, but I would be pretty happy playing Super Mario World,
Donkey Kong Country and Zelda a Link to the past.

And what on earth has that got to do with my post? Absolutely nothing.

You said that save exploits in PSP just enable usermode homebrew, then I said that I would love that, if the same could be done to 3DS, playing emulators and stuff.
I thought it was pretty obvious the connection

 

[SifJar]

You said that save exploits in PSP just enable usermode homebrew, then I said that I would love that, if the same could be done to 3DS, playing emulators and stuff.
I thought it was pretty obvious the connection

But that wasn't the point of my post. That was just a side note.

My point was that this won't aid in exploits at all, as if there was such an exploit, to use it one would require the original cart and a method of getting the save onto it (as this thing just rips saves from the original cart), and so one could just run the exploit on the original cart. Therefore this is of absolutely NO benefit in terms of exploits.

I added the sidenote referring to usermode homebrew because people went further than simply saying this could help with exploits but said it would help piracy. I was pointing out that even if it did increase the possibility of an exploit (which it won't), it definitely wouldn't increase the possibility of piracy.

 

[raulpica]

SifJar already said it, but I'll point it again:

This won't help homebrew or piracy as it just trasfers a save from a physical cart back to an eShop save. Now, if there was a savegame exploit it should work FIRST on a physical copy, and only then it could be adapted to work also on a digital copy.

But since there isn't a SINGLE savegame exploit, nor we do know if it'll ever be one (iirc, 3DS is well-defended from buffer overflows and stuff) this tool has NOTHING to do with homebrewing purposes.

 

[pwsincd]

I think what people are generally refering to is the fact that the more doors ninty open the more they will forget to close behind them , therefore more chances of finding a loophole if one exisits .. The higher the monkey climbs the tree , the more it shows its ass.

 

[VMM]

You said that save exploits in PSP just enable usermode homebrew, then I said that I would love that, if the same could be done to 3DS, playing emulators and stuff.
I thought it was pretty obvious the connection

But that wasn't the point of my post. That was just a side note.

My point was that this won't aid in exploits at all, as if there was such an exploit, to use it one would require the original cart and a method of getting the save onto it (as this thing just rips saves from the original cart), and so one could just run the exploit on the original cart. Therefore this is of absolutely NO benefit in terms of exploits.

I added the sidenote referring to usermode homebrew because people went further than simply saying this could help with exploits but said it would help piracy. I was pointing out that even if it did increase the possibility of an exploit (which it won't), it definitely wouldn't increase the possibility of piracy.

But there is already a way to transfer saves from a computer to the 3DS cartridge, it's called R4i Dongle.

 

[jonthedit]

No progress? You must be joking. Several exploits were found, one of them spawned the iEvo, but I'm pretty sure that WinterMute found more. Twiizers also released DSiHacks, which are worth mentioning because they did not require a flashcart to boot. We don't have a proper DSi hack available not because it's hard to pull off, but because of utter lack of interest of the developers. The advent of the DSTwo and the 3DS rendered the platform obsolete.

When the system was of interest, nothing major was done.

I still doubt the 3DS to be of interest

 

[chyyran]

Well, will it be able to transfer saves from digital to digital?

Meh, I prefer physical copies of my game anyways, but I see the 3DS going digital in the near-future

No progress? You must be joking. Several exploits were found, one of them spawned the iEvo, but I'm pretty sure that WinterMute found more. Twiizers also released DSiHacks, which are worth mentioning because they did not require a flashcart to boot. We don't have a proper DSi hack available not because it's hard to pull off, but because of utter lack of interest of the developers. The advent of the DSTwo and the 3DS rendered the platform obsolete.

When the system was of interest, nothing major was done.

I still doubt the 3DS to be of interest

19 million shipped units* (Thats 19 000 000), and still not of interest?

*Source: Wikipedia

 

[The Milkman]

I think what people are generally refering to is the fact that the more doors ninty open the more they will forget to close behind them , therefore more chances of finding a loophole if one exisits .. The higher the monkey climbs the tree , the more it shows its ass.

No it doesnt, its ass is covered with friggn fur. Thats a terrible anology!

 

[shadow1w2]

I don't see the point in this tool.
Its cheaper to buy the carts since they naturally go down in price.
The digital version, NEVER go down in price no matter what.
So this could only be useful if you want to copy a friend's game save.
Which again, would be useless as you'd probably buy the cart for twenty bucks less than it costs on the eshop.

So ya, just asking for hacker exploits.
Just begging for it.

I can't wait.

 

[pwsincd]

I think what people are generally refering to is the fact that the more doors ninty open the more they will forget to close behind them , therefore more chances of finding a loophole if one exisits .. The higher the monkey climbs the tree , the more it shows its ass.

No it doesnt, its ass is covered with friggn fur. Thats a terrible anology!

Are they ?#
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XzO8d8n292o/TCty9aOqWYI/AAAAAAAAErU/p6ybOf_LrgI/s1600/633692792613426410-MyAss.jpg

 

[SifJar]

You said that save exploits in PSP just enable usermode homebrew, then I said that I would love that, if the same could be done to 3DS, playing emulators and stuff.
I thought it was pretty obvious the connection

But that wasn't the point of my post. That was just a side note.

My point was that this won't aid in exploits at all, as if there was such an exploit, to use it one would require the original cart and a method of getting the save onto it (as this thing just rips saves from the original cart), and so one could just run the exploit on the original cart. Therefore this is of absolutely NO benefit in terms of exploits.

I added the sidenote referring to usermode homebrew because people went further than simply saying this could help with exploits but said it would help piracy. I was pointing out that even if it did increase the possibility of an exploit (which it won't), it definitely wouldn't increase the possibility of piracy.

But there is already a way to transfer saves from a computer to the 3DS cartridge, it's called R4i Dongle.

I know, I am well aware of that. You're really not getting my point at all here. I'll try to make it real simple.

If you are able to use the piece of software Nintendo are releasing, you already have the original game cartridge with the exploited save on the cart. So you can run the exploit from the cart. This won't magically make exploits work that wouldn't work on the original cart. There is no advantage to having the exploited save for use with a digital version over having the same save on the original cart.

Plus the digital versions of games can be patched. The original carts can't.

 

[gamefan5]

You said that save exploits in PSP just enable usermode homebrew, then I said that I would love that, if the same could be done to 3DS, playing emulators and stuff.
I thought it was pretty obvious the connection

But that wasn't the point of my post. That was just a side note.

My point was that this won't aid in exploits at all, as if there was such an exploit, to use it one would require the original cart and a method of getting the save onto it (as this thing just rips saves from the original cart), and so one could just run the exploit on the original cart. Therefore this is of absolutely NO benefit in terms of exploits.

I added the sidenote referring to usermode homebrew because people went further than simply saying this could help with exploits but said it would help piracy. I was pointing out that even if it did increase the possibility of an exploit (which it won't), it definitely wouldn't increase the possibility of piracy.

But there is already a way to transfer saves from a computer to the 3DS cartridge, it's called R4i Dongle.

I know, I am well aware of that. You're really not getting my point at all here. I'll try to make it real simple.

If you are able to use the piece of software Nintendo are releasing, you already have the original game cartridge with the exploited save on the cart. So you can run the exploit from the cart. This won't magically make exploits work that wouldn't work on the original cart. There is no advantage to having the exploited save for use with a digital version over having the same save on the original cart.

Plus the digital versions of games can be patched. The original carts can't.

Excuse me? Mario kart 7 says hi.

 

[SifJar]

Excuse me? Mario kart 7 says hi.

I am unaware of whatever you're referring to, but what I mean is that the actual cart won't be patched. If there is some patch for some game, it'll be done on-the-fly by the system, meaning you should be able to avoid installing the patch if you desire. With a digital copy, unless you have the exploited game already, you won't be able to download an unpatched version; with a cart, you can just buy the cart in a shop and not install the patch (might require taking 3DS offline or whatever), and the cart will still be exploitable.