The Future is Going to Suck

[godreborn]

I recall a quote by the great Miyamoto who said that whenever u pick up a controller of an established gaming series u should know what series ur playing within the first few seconds otherwise the developer has failed. I think that is the reason y Nintendo still makes fantastic games regardless of whether or not an eastern or western dev develops the game in question. however, some eastern devs, such as Square-Enix, have tried too hard to emulate their Western counterparts. I honestly can't say I'd know that Final Fantasy XI, XII, XIII, or XIV were Final Fantasy games if not for the title screen or the enemies. none of them r like the series' games that were on the NES, SNES, or PS1. to me, that is the problem with Eastern devs. it's not their failure to change, but it's rather their attempt to make Western-style games that fails. that's my opinion anyway.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

personally, consoles shouldn't be in a power-struggle with pcs. and, they should stick to gaming. these days, multimedia features r being touted off far more than the games. after all, the new metro dash of the 360 has the gaming section pushed off to the side. I think the industry took a wrong turn when graphics became the end all and be all of gaming. sure, it might be nice to have great graphics, but the cost will undoubtedly be passed on to the consumer. I really don't want to take out a loan just to buy a game next gen.

While agree with the Xbox's new terrible layout, I certainly don't agree with "shouldn't be multimedia devices". Nowadays we have the technology to do so many things with our electronics that not having these features is pretty stupid. Having Netflix, internet browsing capabilities, On Demand TV, music and video playback, they don't detract from games. I enjoy my Xbox because it has all these features and it has the games I want. To say that "gaming consoles should be purely for gaming" is just being dated.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that people complaining about "outrageous prices" only did so when the Wii was pushed as "cost affordable", even though it was completely gimped compared to other consoles. Gaming is a luxury, get over it.

EDIT 2: But my responses to the article:

1. Sony Can’t Afford To Take Big Risks - I don't care nor do I want them to. I don't want a "Playstation Move console" or some other crap like that. I want a PS4 with higher graphics, a traditional controller, and new features. If they really want to experiment, use the Vita. It's got everything you want or need. Touchscreens, motion controls, 3G, augmented reality, go fool around there. At least they blended traditional play styles with new ones there, I don't want a console that only emphasizes on retarded new controls.
2. It’s Going To Be Hard To Be A Used Gamer - Eh. I buy a lot of used games but I'd have no issue going new and simply keeping my nose out of questionable games until their prices are lowered. Plus with digital distribution on the rise, I can expect used gaming to not even be worth it when you can get games at Steam-level prices. People just bitch about this because they enjoy trading games in to buy more games.
3. The Death of Singleplayer - First, this is bullshit. There are plenty of games which have been able to blend multiplayer and singleplayer well. Assassin's Creed gave us a good singleplayer with a multiplayer. I know Rockstar has really be emphasizing on multiplayer recently but still give us large, story driven single player games. And honestly, if a game is multiplayer focused, I don't need a single player.
4. Free-to-Play Might Be The Future - If anything, recent developments in how F2P games work means this will be better than paying $15/month for one MMO.
5. Subscriptions Are Too Lucrative - But they're unpopular with the fanbase. Sony has been using an optional subscription plan, which has worked well, but mandatory subscriptions? I doubt it.
6. Developing Next-Gen Games Will Be Even More Expensive - So it cuts the crap out and "smaller" games that can't afford this budget can just develop for digital services. Big whoop.
7. The Apple Has Landed - "Exploring" but not "ingraining". I doubt many devs will convert completely to Apple.
8. What Is Wrong With People? - Typical CoD hate. BlOps 2 looks cool and I don't give a fuck if people hate it. You're not buying it, deal with it.
9. West Is Sadly Best - Weaboo bullshit. Ever think western games are "the best" because they offer the most? Expansive open worlds, gripping story telling, memorable characters. They don't focus on being "kawaii" or "quirky" like some of these ridiculous Japanese games. Japan has a few titles that redeem themselves by debunking this "stereotype" (like Nier and their non-RPG action games) but for every Nier and Platinum Games game they have 5 Love Pluses and Hatsune Miku games.
10. Facebook My Tweet And Share It With Your Circle - Who gives a fucking shit? Don't like the advertisement on Facebook? Don't like their fucking page. And since when is social networking integration "bad"? Oh no, I can share my accomplishments with my friends, it's killing gaming!
11. It’s Watching You - That's a pretty large leap there.

All in all, just a stupid article for people who are too close minded to accept that gaming evolves constantly and that the best games are made every year.

 

[godreborn]

while I might agree to an extent, the point is we have to much crap that does the same thing. I don't think many bought the ps3 to play netflex. the point is that gaming devices should live up to their nomenclature.

 

[Foxi4]

While agree with the Xbox's new terrible layout, I certainly don't agree with "shouldn't be multimedia devices". Nowadays we have the technology to do so many things with our electronics that not having these features is pretty stupid. Having Netflix, internet browsing capabilities, On Demand TV, music and video playback, they don't detract from games. I enjoy my Xbox because it has all these features and it has the games I want. To say that "gaming consoles should be purely for gaming" is just being dated.

Pretty much. Saying that there is some necessity to have numerous devices for numerous purposes next to your TV is like saying that having a multiprocessor in the kitchen is pointless when you could have a blender, mixer, ice crusher, grater, juice squeezer, slicer 'n dicer... (goes on for an hour).

The point is, a console is no longer just for gaming - it's a hub for entertainment. Who doesn't like to listen to their favourite music while playing a game? Music player should be added then. Who doesn't like to watch a good movie after a nice gaming session? Video support should be added. Who hates having to get up and check online where this one secret you just can't find on your own is? A browser should be added. Who hates running back and forth with storage media when you want to run some of your content using one of the previously mentioned functions? LAN support should be added then.

You end up with a media hub, no matter how you slice it. Either people will accept this simple fact and realize that this makes their lives convenient or they will carry on living in the stone age.

We used to carry numerous devices on us not so long ago - we needed mp3 players/cd players/casette players for music, a GPS Nav for finding our way in unfamiliar terrain, a phone for calling and texting other people, an organizer to keep our tasks in-check, we needed a camera to take photos. That's a lot of stuff... and look at us now - all we need is a smartphone, most of them have all those functions and more built-in. Why? Because having one device that does it all is far better than having multiple - it's convinient and cost-efficient.

 

[godreborn]

call me crazy but I use my gaming devices for gaming. after all, u have samsung tvs integrated with facebook. who'd buy a tv just so u could access facebook? that is the problem with the gaming industry. the gaming portion is merely an afterthought to a multimedia hub.

 

[Foxi4]

call me crazy but I use my gaming devices for gaming. after all, u have samsung tvs integrated with facebook. who'd buy a tv just so u could access facebook? that is the problem with the gaming industry. the gaming portion is merely an afterthought to a multimedia hub.

People don't buy TV's with Facebook to use Facebook - they focus on the primary function while the added functionality is a cherry on-top of an already delicious cake.

Same with consoles - gaming is the primary purpose, however the more functionality the better, and sometimes this extra functionality or its lack may determine whether someone will buy a given console or not. It's not since yesterday - it's always been like this. Why do you think the GameCube died? It offered virtually nothing other than the gaming portion while its competitors were far more robust and thus won the race.

 

[Pleng]

I agree with most of the points you named.

As long as my console can play great single player games, I'll be happy. If not, looks like I'll be sticking to my Wii and previous generation consoles.

I agree with you completely on this. If the industry does go to shit I'd happily stay in this generation until it gets sorted out, IF it gets sorted out.

Funny, this generation and a half is the first time I've owned a 'current gen' system (Wii, DS then 3DS) since the Sega Megadrive; and it looks like it's the last time I'll be owning a current gen system for a while!

I doubt I'll buy any more 'next-gen' hardware until it's already been hacked and is emulating dreamcast games (in a handheld form)

 

[Deleted member 473940]

Melodramatic title..
I actually took my time since this morning to read this article bits by bits.

Sounds so sure o.O like wtf.. we barely know fully about the WiiU and already speculating, saying stuff about MS and Sony's console -.-

I would just wait and see

Although, a valid point about development costs...

 

[godreborn]

call me crazy but I use my gaming devices for gaming. after all, u have samsung tvs integrated with facebook. who'd buy a tv just so u could access facebook? that is the problem with the gaming industry. the gaming portion is merely an afterthought to a multimedia hub.

People don't buy TV's with Facebook to use Facebook - they focus on the primary function while the added functionality is a cherry on-top of an already delicious cake.

Same with consoles - gaming is the primary purpose, however the more functionality the better, and sometimes this extra functionality or its lack may determine whether someone will buy a given console or not. It's not since yesterday - it's always been like this. Why do you think the GameCube died? It offered virtually nothing other than the gaming portion while its competitors were far more robust and thus won the race.

except, that companies, such as $ony, focus on multimedia features to hide a lack of innovation. the ps vita may be nice, but I don't need something that can perform the same function as any cellphone. people want devices that r solely designed to perform what they were designed to perform. do I really need four devices in my pock to tell me the time or the number of steps I've walked? that is y $ony is failing. gaming devices should focus on games.

 

[Foxi4]

call me crazy but I use my gaming devices for gaming. after all, u have samsung tvs integrated with facebook. who'd buy a tv just so u could access facebook? that is the problem with the gaming industry. the gaming portion is merely an afterthought to a multimedia hub.

People don't buy TV's with Facebook to use Facebook - they focus on the primary function while the added functionality is a cherry on-top of an already delicious cake.

Same with consoles - gaming is the primary purpose, however the more functionality the better, and sometimes this extra functionality or its lack may determine whether someone will buy a given console or not. It's not since yesterday - it's always been like this. Why do you think the GameCube died? It offered virtually nothing other than the gaming portion while its competitors were far more robust and thus won the race.

except, that companies, such as $ony, focus on multimedia features to hide a lack of innovation. the ps vita may be nice, but I don't need something that can perform the same function as any cellphone. people want devices that r solely designed to perform what they were designed to perform. do I really need four devices in my pock to tell me the time or the number of steps I've walked? that is y $ony is failing. gaming devices should focus on games.

Nice try, but the Vita is not a phone and isn't marketed as one - Sony already has a gaming phone and it's called the Xperia Play. One of the models has 3G functionality surely for internet purposes. Moreover, it doesn't hide any flaws behind its multimedia functions, it just has those functions. Finally, it's not failing. Try again.

 

[Rayder]

And people wonder why I'm fading from gaming. I've listed more-or-less the same reasons for quitting mainstream gaming years ago. So apparently, I'm years ahead of the people who are just now realizing this.

I've got my DS (Dead System) and PSP (Pirated Software Player) to play old-school emulated games from my past that were actually fun, as opposed to just being big elaborate productions with little to no substance (or fun), as most games seem to be nowadays.

 

[Foxi4]

And people wonder why I'm fading from gaming. I've listed more-or-less the same reasons for quitting mainstream gaming years ago. So apparently, I'm years ahead of the people who are just now realizing this.

I've got my DS (Dead System) and PSP (Pirated Software Player) to play old-school emulated games from my past that were actually fun, as opposed to just being big elaborate productions with little to no substance (or fun), as most games seem to be nowadays.

It's called progress. Music suffers from the same problems - the golden generation thought that rock was the music of the devil while the rock generation thought they're open-minded and revolutionary. The same rock generation condemned metal music as too violent while the metal generation rejected techno for not being "organic". Accept the fact that you and many others just... became old farts who are unable to cope with the changes occuring around them. You may have arguments for your statements and they will be valid... for the members of your generation and for those who enjoy retro gaming.

Gaming just like cinema, literature, music and other forms of creative works is subject to change. What you grew to love is no longer in the spotlight and you're having a hard time accepting that.

You have two options - you can try and accept the new while looking at it with a new perspective... Or you can be that old fart yelling at the kids outside from your porch that "Back in your day...!". The choice is of course yours.

 

[The Catboy]

Quite honestly I gave up hope on video games after about a month into owning a Wii.
Personally I modded my xbox so I could pay old video games on it and I am planning on buying PSP to play old games on the go because the DS sucks at emulation.
@Rayder, I agree

 

[Eerpow]

Gaming just like cinema, literature, music and other forms of creative works is subject to change. What you grew to love is no longer in the spotlight and you're having a hard time accepting that.

You have two options - you can try and accept the new while looking at it with a new perspective... Or you can be that old fart yelling at the kids outside from your porch that "Back in your day...!". The choice is of course yours.

Don't talk to gramps like that Foxi4!!

I agree with Rayder about mainstream gaming and big production blockbuster games though.

 

[Black-Ice]

Bring back ps2.
Thats when gaming was gaming.

 

[Foxi4]

Don't talk to gramps like that foxi4!!

I'm quite the old fart myself, the term is acceptable among the eldery.

I take a different approach though. I cherish my old games for what I would cherish them back in the day... but do not reject the new ones and praise them for what is valued nowadays. Every game, big production or not, has the potential of being a gem. Every game just may do something "right".

It's easy to criticize - everyone's a critic... but to accept innovation and change? Now that is a huge challenge!

 

[DarkStriker]

Gogo let the next console generation die. Their moving to fast anyways with their console developement etc.

 

[Foxi4]

Gogo let the next console generation die. Their moving to fast anyways with their console developement etc.

According to Moore's Law they are moving at the correct pace, actually.

 

[DarkStriker]

According to Moore's Law they are moving at the correct pace, actually.

According to my law, its moving too fast.

 

[Foxi4]

According to Moore's Law they are moving at the correct pace, actually.

According to my law, its moving too fast.

We haven't seen a huge development as far as consoles are concerned in 7 years (XBox 360 release), how long of a life-span do you expect? This generation already overstayed its welcome, it's about time to move on.