Paypal cracking down on flashcart stores

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Oh well looks like I won't be using PayPal no more, not just for this reason but because I owe them like $500 bucks lol.
 
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I have to wonder if folks realize that paypal has been doing this sort of thing for a long long time now, even before ebay ate 'em - regardless of whether there was even any real legal question regarding the product folks who built their businesses/charities using paypal were collecting for. Just about any excuse (someone used a stolen cc - how that is the sellers fault is beyond me, your sales increased - you think they'd be happy for the extra business, the guy/gal at the pp office sitting in front of a keyboard was digging for a booger and couldn't pick a winner) and a balance is all it takes for pp to seize the funds in an account indefinitely - and it's put many many honest folks and charities in a very tight spot, often to the point of folding. That they claim to have a legal reason now... doesn't really change the fact they use it as an excuse to seize those funds, which any way you look at it it is outright theft and absolutely nothing grey-area about it at all.

What I don't understand is... why does everyone still seem to trust paypal? The only excuse I've ever seen is "because it hasn't happened to me" to which I'd add... "yet." And no, before you ask.. it hasn't happened to me, but I've watched it happen to various people I've known over the years, more often than not for no good reason. To be fair though, I'd love to hear of a story that saw PP release seized funds in a reasonable amount of time while being easy to get a hold of and deal with.
 
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I can understand this with current hardware, but paypal have even forced a retro site in this country to remove a modchip from it's website for......... the Sega Saturn for fucks sake.
The damn thing died about 15years ago - Sega and the game developers make FUCK ALL money from the Saturn anymore, it's just eBay sellers scamming stuff for ridiculous prices on the second hand market, and yet they still want to prevent you buying a modchip for it.

Just another example of out of touch idiots making rules/laws about things they have no understanding of.
 
What right does PayPal have to block sites? Firstly, they are about as crooked a company and one can get. They are not even a real bank and the fact that they can hold and freeze assets indefinitely should be a word of warning to all that plan to use them. I do not like PayPal. They offer a fake buyer and seller protection that only comes into play if they happen to lose funds. If you do, they could care less.

Everyone should find another source to pay with. PayPal is evil and should be governed by the same laws that banks do. Also, always used your credit card, at least you have some form of buyer protection. PayPal is great at charging fees. They suck at everything else.
 
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What right does PayPal have to block sites? Firstly, they are about as crooked a company and one can get. They are not even a real bank and the fact that they can hold and freeze assets indefinitely should be a word of warning to all that plan to use them. I do not like PayPal. They offer a fake buyer and seller protection that only comes into play if they happen to lose funds. If you do, they could care less.

Everyone should find another source to pay with. PayPal is evil and should be governed by the same laws that banks do. Also, always used your credit card, at least you have some form of buyer protection. PayPal is great at charging fees. They suck at everything else.
Dude, relax, it probably even up to Paypal to do these things. They are probably being forced to by the big companies. Haven't you been reading this thread??
 
Oh well looks like I won't be using PayPal no more, not just for this reason but because I owe them like $500 bucks lol.

:wtf:

...how?
It was wrong on my part of course but here's what happened. Someone hacked my paypal, made a fradulent charge on it and so I reported it to paypal so they could investigate it and fix it. They told me to also report it to my bank as well so I did so my bank and paypal had their own separate investigations going. So suddenly a few weeks later I notice in my bank account that either my bank or paypal has refunded me because my account went from negative -$500 back to $16 & change which is what I originally had in there.

Then a few days later there was another $500 added into my account by my bank or paypal because since there were 2 separate investigations they both refunded me or something like that. So my happy ass thinking I had a free $500 bucks went and took it and went nuts with it aka put it in the real bank, under my mattress lol.

Next thing I know I get a call from paypal telling me I owe them $500 dollars and I ask why and they said because the $500 they put in my account was a hold until my bank covers it and then it'd go back to normal..Unfortunately, I had already given it to my parents to help out with bills & such so I haven't had a chance to pay it back since I am out of work.
 
Dammit. I bet that EPA thingy or whatever that group is that shuts down romsites has something to do with this. Whats the use of finding bypasses and hacks if Paypals gonna spit all over the right of privacy and just freeze your account because you bought a semi-legal flashcart?
 
if I buy a visa vanilla card, how do i register it with my name and personal stuff. also if i buy a flashcart with it does the shipping cost simply just charge the card?
 
What I don't understand is... why does everyone still seem to trust paypal? The only excuse I've ever seen is "because it hasn't happened to me" to which I'd add... "yet." And no, before you ask.. it hasn't happened to me, but I've watched it happen to various people I've known over the years, more often than not for no good reason. To be fair though, I'd love to hear of a story that saw PP release seized funds in a reasonable amount of time while being easy to get a hold of and deal with.
I think the people who trust paypal is the people who never had a problem with them or something shit paypal didn't do to them yet so they still trust it and say its great but for us who had paypal screw up we chose for better methods but they'll see that paypal isn't that great in time when paypal does decide to screw them.
 
I tried registering for a MoneyBookers and Alert Pay a while ago, spent over an hour and I could not get my account to confirm correctly and pay for my items.
I can't remember the details exactly, but I remember registered my Credit Cards and bank account on one of those sites. I also remember having to call in to close at least one of these accounts. It sure was frustrating.

I had a overall good experience with PayPal so far, I had to call them a few times and had my problems resolved quickly. Unfornately, I had my account limited today, I will have to see how this turns out...
It's too bad eBay is so popular as well as PayPal.
 
That sucks but don't most people have a debit card? Don't get me wrong, I love using paypal as much as the next guy, but if there is no other choice, paying with a debit card directly isn't so bad.
I do believe that most people have a bank card yes. Except underage kids.

I'm an underaged "kid", and I have a bank card, it's a visa debit. BB&T gives me one for free.

I hope you guys know eBay owns PayPal, and they run it under a tight leash, so if you're that pissed at PP, then you may want to think twice before buying more crap on eBay, you're lining eBay/GayPal's pockets.
 
That sucks but don't most people have a debit card? Don't get me wrong, I love using paypal as much as the next guy, but if there is no other choice, paying with a debit card directly isn't so bad.
I do believe that most people have a bank card yes. Except underage kids.

I'm an underaged "kid", and I have a bank card, it's a visa debit. BB&T gives me one for free.

I hope you guys know eBay owns PayPal, and they run it under a tight leash, so if you're that pissed at PP, then you may want to think twice before buying more crap on eBay, you're lining eBay/GayPal's pockets.
Proof/source?
 
I don't think anyone needs any proof that Paypal belongs to ebay, it's pretty much common knowledge heh
 
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Umm... what does ebay have to do with paypal not allowing people to use them pay for flashcards?

I mean alot of people who would buy the flashcard probably would buy from a more trusted source than ebay.
 
I think it's funny that people here are trying to find a replacement for PayPal. Whether you like them or not, PayPal has a monopolizing control over the "business" of transactions online. Don't do anything stupid, nothing stupid will happen to you.
 
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