thaddius' Console Classic 2012 Edition: Round 12

[Valwin]

il take those gba games over the no games on the vita anyday

"We sold you our hardware for $80 more than it's worth, we know that it's unfair, so for that occasion, we prepared this delicious old sandwich for you! But you can't have it all! You can only have one piece each two months! Thank you for your support!"

thank you for the meal its beats the other guy

 

[Foxi4]

il take those gba games over the no games on the vita anyday

"We sold you our hardware for $80 more than it's worth, we know that it's unfair, so for that occasion, we prepared this delicious old sandwich for you! But you can't have it all! You can only have one piece each two months! Thank you for your support!"

thank you for the meal its beats the other guy

Would you like a kick in the balls with that brown nosing? You seem to lap up whatever scraps they throw at you.

Nintendo should've at the very least reward the early adopters with Points, so that, you know, they could get whatever the fuck they want from the store, not some games someone else picked for them? That, and there's nothing standing in the way of the GBA titles being downloadable for all users, so why put up an arbitrary restriction like this? Nintendo handled the situation poorly. My gal's an early adopter of the 3DS and after I sent her the list of games, she didn't even bother signing up for the program. Y'know why? Because she already has the good ones - she had them for at least 10 years now.

 

[Valwin]

il take those gba games over the no games on the vita anyday

"We sold you our hardware for $80 more than it's worth, we know that it's unfair, so for that occasion, we prepared this delicious old sandwich for you! But you can't have it all! You can only have one piece each two months! Thank you for your support!"

thank you for the meal its beats the other guy

Would you like a kick in the balls with that brown nosing? You seem to lap up whatever scraps they throw at you.

Nintendo should've at the very least reward the early adopters with Points, so that, you know, they could get whatever the fuck they want from the store, not some games someone else picked for them? That, and there's nothing standing in the way of the GBA titles being downloadable for all users, so why put up an arbitrary restriction like this? Nintendo handled the situation poorly. My gal's an early adopter of the 3DS and after I sent her the list, she didn't even bother signing up for the program. Y'know why? Because she already has the good ones - she had them for at least 10 years now.

well she can play them now on a shiny new 3DS lucky her

 

[emigre]

This thread is reminding me of a conversation between my boss and a table.

 

[Foxi4]

il take those gba games over the no games on the vita anyday

"We sold you our hardware for $80 more than it's worth, we know that it's unfair, so for that occasion, we prepared this delicious old sandwich for you! But you can't have it all! You can only have one piece each two months! Thank you for your support!"

thank you for the meal its beats the other guy

Would you like a kick in the balls with that brown nosing? You seem to lap up whatever scraps they throw at you.

Nintendo should've at the very least reward the early adopters with Points, so that, you know, they could get whatever the fuck they want from the store, not some games someone else picked for them? That, and there's nothing standing in the way of the GBA titles being downloadable for all users, so why put up an arbitrary restriction like this? Nintendo handled the situation poorly. My gal's an early adopter of the 3DS and after I sent her the list, she didn't even bother signing up for the program. Y'know why? Because she already has the good ones - she had them for at least 10 years now.

well she can play them now on a shiny new 3DS lucky her

No, because she didn't log onto the system before the deadline deliberatelly. Because she didn't give two flips. And she can play them on her shiny GBA SP whenever she wants.

In any case. I'm done talking with you about the GBA games, you're not really drawing any point, you just keep repeating that they were worth it.

 

[Fyrus]

I must say it, Thaddius, but I love those Console class you do, because it makes me feel so nostalgic of being a gamer of the Megadrive generation, and allows me to learn more of the past consoles, and consoles of the same generation. Although I vote without commenting, I always like these polls.

My votes so far were only Nintendo and Sega-based, because all the games I liked over the generations were on these consoles, although I have some nice memories of some PS1 games. (Ape Escape and Mega Man Legends, to cite only them).

 

[Valwin]

il take those gba games over the no games on the vita anyday

"We sold you our hardware for $80 more than it's worth, we know that it's unfair, so for that occasion, we prepared this delicious old sandwich for you! But you can't have it all! You can only have one piece each two months! Thank you for your support!"

thank you for the meal its beats the other guy

Would you like a kick in the balls with that brown nosing? You seem to lap up whatever scraps they throw at you.

Nintendo should've at the very least reward the early adopters with Points, so that, you know, they could get whatever the fuck they want from the store, not some games someone else picked for them? That, and there's nothing standing in the way of the GBA titles being downloadable for all users, so why put up an arbitrary restriction like this? Nintendo handled the situation poorly. My gal's an early adopter of the 3DS and after I sent her the list, she didn't even bother signing up for the program. Y'know why? Because she already has the good ones - she had them for at least 10 years now.

well she can play them now on a shiny new 3DS lucky her

No, because she didn't log onto the system before the deadline deliberatelly. Because she didn't give two flips. And she can play them on her shiny GBA SP whenever she wants.

In any case. I'm done talking with you about the GBA games, you're not really drawing any point, you just keep repeating that they were worth it.

well is her lost too bad

 

[Qtis]

TL;DFL: Honestly this thread (so far that I've read) is all about why the 3DS IS SUPERIOR WITH 3-F'ING-D and the PSV SUCKS C***! Not to be nit-picking, but I have to say one thing: owning a DSL, DSiXL and 3DS and buying a PSP about the same time as a 3DS, what are you people thinking.. The 3DS is a great console, but so far the games I've played are nice, but not fantastic. If a game ported/remaked from the N64 times is a fantastic game in today's specs, I'll just go enjoy my N64. Heck I'll go enjoy my NES, SNES, N64, NGC and Wii. Or better, GB, GBC, GBA, DS and DSi. And yes, the first two of those are easily played with a DS via flashcart. And yes the previous gen games are all playable via a DSL.

I'm not saying that a 3DS is better than a PSVita, but honestly how many of you people have actually played games/done things via the consoles? More than 15 minutes?

ps. Although having a 3DS is great, Nintendo isn't the only game manufacturer/developer and the games so far have let me down. Although I don't have a PSVita, I'm hoping that it's future is brighter than the 3DS's so far. I've yet to trade a console in and if it wasn't for KH: Dream Drop Distance, I'd have traded my 3DS (Zelda Edition, mind you) for a PSVita.

 

[emigre]

Well done lads, you've made Qtis pissed off. Qtis for fuck's sake. I hope you're fucking happy with yourselves. I'm going to go look at myself in the mirror and eat some chicken.

 

[Foxi4]

@[member='Qtis']

Time after time people like you restore my faith in this community.

 

[Qtis]

Well done lads, you've made Qtis pissed off. Qtis for fuck's sake. I hope you're fucking happy with yourselves. I'm going to go look at myself in the mirror and eat some chicken.

Post of the year. No. Post of the century. I lieks!

But honestly, I don't see the reason for bickering between Foxi, Guild, thaddius, soulx and co. I like games. I don't necessarily like the companies behind the titles, but quickly reading the comments here almost state that you either like the 3DS or the PSV. Hell I don't even own a PSVita yet, but I don't see the 3DS so superior to the competition. Sure, if you never touched a DS-gen consoles, you'll be amazed, but considering an R4 costs $3 and a DS/DSL about $50 used, why buy a 3DS for $200 for DS games. Just like someone telling me to buy a PSVita for PSP games ($50 vs $200 anyone?).


ps. I'm being realistic. If you buy an R4 and a DSL just for homebrew, I'd say you're a minority. A 3DS offers much more, but on the other hand costs a lot more.
pps. I like the 3DS's 3D effect, but I honestly hate it when I'm on a bus or similar transport. The vibration makes me.. Meh..

 

[xist]

The 3DS is the only console i've ever pre-ordered and bought at launch, perhaps spurred on by the waves and waves and waves of hype that surrounded it, and perhaps because i thought mistakenly it would follow in the footsteps of the DS. Sad to say it's the biggest mistake i've ever made in regards to consoles and has ensured that i'll never ever buy a console early ever again...

Thanks Nintendo for shafting me and repaying my investment with a paltry amount of GBA and NES games that i didn't want. Thanks for having no decent games for months and months (and still only having a handful of decent single player games that interest me).

The Vita has had a bad start, but if even Valwin shelled out a premium price on the PS Vita console and Ninja Gaiden when he'd been slating it since it's first news article, he must feel it has a degree of potential...no-one spends that amount of money on something they think is awful.

 

[emigre]

I just ignore soulx. Because he deserves it.

 

[thaddius]

I must say it, Thaddius, but I love those Console class you do, because it makes me feel so nostalgic of being a gamer of the Megadrive generation, and allows me to learn more of the past consoles, and consoles of the same generation. Although I vote without commenting, I always like these polls.

Bon merci! I think that's one of the first compliments someone has given me on this thing. I appreciate it.

 

[Foxi4]

But honestly, I don't see the reason for bickering between Foxi, Guild, thaddius, soulx and co. I like games. I don't necessarily like the companies behind the titles, but quickly reading the comments here almost state that you either like the 3DS or the PSV. Hell I don't even own a PSVita yet, but I don't see the 3DS so superior to the competition. Sure, if you never touched a DS-gen consoles, you'll be amazed, but considering an R4 costs $3 and a DS/DSL about $50 used, why buy a 3DS for $200 for DS games. Just like someone telling me to buy a PSVita for PSP games ($50 vs $200 anyone?).


ps. I'm being realistic. If you buy an R4 and a DSL just for homebrew, I'd say you're a minority. A 3DS offers much more, but on the other hand costs a lot more.
pps. I like the 3DS's 3D effect, but I honestly hate it when I'm on a bus or similar transport. The vibration makes me.. Meh..

I'm bickering precisely because I don't think the Vita nor the 3DS gained a proper standing yet and it really grinds my gears when people say that either is crap - I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I simply like digging to the bottom of "why do you think so?" and usually it all runs down to "Because Sony" and "Because Nintendo", sometimes "Because Microsoft" and that really saddens me.

I don't know why you have such an opinion of me since left and right I say that to have the full experience of each console generation you need to have *every console a given generation has to offer*. I'm againts favourism due to superficial reasons, that's all.

 

[Fyrus]

I must say it, Thaddius, but I love those Console class you do, because it makes me feel so nostalgic of being a gamer of the Megadrive generation, and allows me to learn more of the past consoles, and consoles of the same generation. Although I vote without commenting, I always like these polls.

Bon merci! I think that's one of the first compliments someone has given me on this thing. I appreciate it.

No idea if "Bon merci" is often used in Canada, but we usually say "Merci bien" instead ^^

 

[thaddius]

I must say it, Thaddius, but I love those Console class you do, because it makes me feel so nostalgic of being a gamer of the Megadrive generation, and allows me to learn more of the past consoles, and consoles of the same generation. Although I vote without commenting, I always like these polls.

Bon merci! I think that's one of the first compliments someone has given me on this thing. I appreciate it.

No idea if "Bon merci" is often used in Canada, but we usually say "Merci bien" instead ^^

Grk. Yeah. My bad. Haven't spoken French in years.

 

[Deleted_171835]

You often hear it because it's true. The DSi has its own library consisting of DSiWare and DSi Exclusives, the changes in hardware are not minor - the system has a different CPU, works on a different "OS" and has the DS one embedded for legacy purposes, it has cameras and it has an SD slot, it's a different build and a different system altogether, it only retained DS compatibility. The Go is different to the PSP in a lesser extent, but still, it is different. The DSi to the DS is like a Wii to the Gamecube - a minor hardware update. A Go to the PSP is like a PS3 Slim to the Fat - a revision with different functionality, but in this case, the functionality is extended not lessened.

Yeah, you're wrong. Nintendo themselves said it was a revision.

Iwata
Because it's not an entirely new platform. It's the third console in the Nintendo DS line.

Kuwahara
Exactly. So, to put it simply, we have to be able to sell the console on its own. It also has to be able to meld into the already-existing DS market.

http://iwataasks.nin...ws/#/ds/dsi/0/0

The specs increase in the DSi is relatively minor. It has two ARM CPUs (ARM9 and ARM7) just like the DS but at a higher clockspeed, 16MB of RAM which isn't much of an increase and a crappy camera. The DSi didn't even get much original games apart from a few gems on the DSiWare shop. It was essentially a DS with a slightly bigger screen and a bunch of useless features that no one really needed.

It was mainly created to boost decreasing DS sales and I would say, to test customer reception to features that would later be put into the 3DS. It's still a DS system. I don't disagree with you regarding the Go, though.

I just ignore soulx. Because he deserves it.

I love you too. Not really.

 

[Foxi4]

Grk. Yeah. My bad. Haven't spoken French in years.

Nous savons vos point faible, thaddius! Soyez sur vos gardes, monsieur!

The specs increase in the DSi is relatively minor. It has two ARM CPUs (ARM9 and ARM7) just like the DS but at a higher clockspeed, 16MB of RAM which isn't much of an increase and a crappy camera. The DSi didn't even get much original games apart from a few gems on the DSiWare shop. It was essentially a DS with a slightly bigger screen and a bunch of useless features that no one really needed.

It's a different CPU, it has a different ammount of RAM, it works on a different OS with support for different games and only retains backwards compatibility due to hard-coded DS Bios in its firmware and the capacity to downclock to an appropriet level.

To be precise, the DSi sports an ARM core that's twice as fast, gets rid of the hardware GBA compatibility layer, has 4 times as much RAM as its predecessor, has a different Wi-Fi chip thus supports WPA which the DS doesn't, has a different OS which supports DSiWare of all-sorts, has a camera, in essence, it's a completely different build.

It's a part of the DS line in the sense that it has two screens. In that sense, the 3DS is also a part of the DS line - I mean, afterall, you can play DS games on it, right? C'mon.

EDIT: I retract my statement about Iwata - "It's the third console in the Nintendo DS line" does not mean revision, much like the Gameboy Advance is not a revision of the Gameboy but it is a part of the Gameboy line of products.

 

[Qtis]

I don't know why you have such an opinion of me since left and right I say that to have the full experience of each console generation you need to have *every console a given generation has to offer*. I'm againts favourism due to superficial reasons, that's all.

My bad, wasn't really trying to target you in the comment, mainly trying to focus on the people involved.

These polls are usually ending with a certain agreement, but the agreement may not reflect reality. Just like quite a few people could make the poll state otherwise (imagine getting 100 random people vote for X and it'd be the complete opposite) Hell most people here could get the DS to just up in the preferences and trump the 3DS!

The internet, gotta love it