US presidential election

[smile72]

Obama is a great president. The sad fact is that most Americans think that Black people are magical creatures when they are just human like they are. They make mistakes and try to solve their own personal issues like everyone else does. Anyone with a brain would realize that it's going to take more than one term to fix the American economy. Bush fucked it up real good. It's what he did best. Fucking stuff up.

Hey, you forgot drinking!!!!

 

[Shoat]

I just cannot understand how america has given both Bush presidents two full rounds and now a lot of them are not willing to give their first actually decent president in a long time his second round.
Especially if the only alternative is a republican candidate.

Generally it's weird that you guys only get to choose between two parties and two candidates each election (and half the time one of them is the last president).
You'd think that over the decades at least a few more parties would have risen up that represent more different mindsets and thus allow the elections to more accurately represent what the people actually want.

I mean, our system over here isn't perfect either, but people would explode in rage if we suddenly had a two-party system here and one of the two parties was a conversative and fanatically religious one. (which, inexplicably, still exists in modern times even though having only barely changed it's mindset over the past century)

No, I do have to vote for one of them if I want to feel like I have a say in anything.

You can write "BOTH OF THESE ARE BAD" on your piece of paper and hand that in.
It is a contribution to the election, and it's better than not participating at all, and definitely WAY better than just forcing yourself to vote for someone even though you actually don't like him.

If, suddenly, 50% of america's population hand in empty or "both guys suck" votes, it will have an effect.
Instead of just saying "meh" and supporting the system they don't like by voting someone they don't like (or ignoring the problem by not voting), that will actually change something. They can't get away with ignoring that if enough people do it.
And, if I remember correctly, america's declaration of independence tells you that, if you don't like your government, it is not only your right but your duty to change something about it.

 

[Hanafuda]

I just cannot understand how america has given both Bush presidents two full rounds

Actually George H W Bush (the dad) only served one term as President. Lost to Clinton (and Perot) in the 92 election. If Ross Perot hadn't run in 92 and split the vote, Bush would have been re-elected though.

 

[lancaster000]

Looks like its time for a reminder as to where the Candidates stand:
(read below) Obama.....Gingrich...Romney..Santorum...Paul
Big $ Influence.......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Wars....................YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Bail outs...............YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Big government......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
War on drugs.........YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Deficit spending.....YES........YES..........YES.......YES.......NO
Balanced Budget....NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
End the FED..........NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Follow Constitution..NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Truthful...................NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Protect Liberty........NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES

 

[Foxi4]

I just cannot understand how america has given both Bush presidents two full rounds and now a lot of them are not willing to give their first actually decent president in a long time his second round.

How is he decent? He's just as wasteful as Bush, just does less while at it. He's a lawyer, not a politician.
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Especially if the only alternative is a republican candidate.

Oh my goodness! Someone will actually start doing something about the ginormous debt the states are in, perhaps making the life of US citizens a little bit less comfortable! Grab the torches!

Generally it's weird that you guys only get to choose between two parties and two candidates each election (and half the time one of them is the last president).
You'd think that over the decades at least a few more parties would have risen up that represent more different mindsets and thus allow the elections to more accurately represent what the people actually want.

"Mindsets" are not uniform in either party, they're all fragmented to some extent. The only real distinction is "liberal" and "conservative", however members of either party are just that with varying intensity. Still, I agree that a larger ammount of parties would likely benefit the system.

I mean, our system over here isn't perfect either, but people would explode in rage if we suddenly had a two-party system here and one of the two parties was a conversative and fanatically religious one. (which, inexplicably, still exists in modern times even though having only barely changed it's mindset over the past century)

You used to have one party and nobody complained. (Unfunny NSDAP joke) But yeah, you're right. However, "Christian" and "Fanatical" doesn't always go together, y'know. While I admit that certain Republicans go overboard with their beliefs, it's not a general rule.

 

[Hanafuda]

They think it's all sunshine and rainbows and Obama can just do a magic trick and make the national debt disappear.

I don't think it's so much an expectation that he make the national debt disappear. It's just that he's made it so much worse. It was at 10.6 trillion the day he took office. That's the TOTAL of all debt taken on by the US government since 1776 though 2009. Today, only three years later, it's 15.5 trillion.

 

[Foxi4]

There's always the alternative - start a nation-wide get-together, get a big piece of paper, write "July 4th 1776 was a mistake, we're sorry, we surrender. Annex us, pretty please." on it, sign it one by one, send it to the UK and keep your fingers crossed. Maybe there is a chance for your debt to just magically "disappear" after all.

 

[Jugarina]

I am voting for Ron Paul even If he doesn't get the Rep. ticket as a write-in or independant vote. If there was one thing I could change It would be to totally revamp the whole voting process so the people's voices are really heard for once like they where when JFK and the presidents before him where elected legitimently.

 

[Libertarian94]

I'm not american, but if i were, i would vote for Ron Paul.
He wants to cut a trillion dollars, and audit the fed, which is the greatest scam in history.
He talks about sound money, the gold and silver standard.
And he does not want to be the policeman of the world, and dares to speak the truth!

Edit: He were also against SOPA before it were ''politically correct''
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[Thesolcity]

Looking at GBAtemp, I never would've guessed Obama's approval ratings plummeted. My vote is a secret, as I like to not start arguments over nothing.

 

[smile72]

Looking at GBAtemp, I never would've guessed Obama's approval ratings plummeted. My vote is a secret, as I like to not start arguments over nothing.

I assume you're a Republican then.

 

[Lacius]

Looks like its time for a reminder as to where the Candidates stand:
(read below) Obama.....Gingrich...Romney..Santorum...Paul
Big $ Influence.......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Wars....................YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Bail outs...............YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Big government......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
War on drugs.........YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Deficit spending.....YES........YES..........YES.......YES.......NO
Balanced Budget....NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
End the FED..........NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Follow Constitution..NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Truthful...................NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Protect Liberty........NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES

Ron Paul is as crazy as the rest of the Republican candidates. The only good things about Ron Paul are his foreign policy and his views on legalizing marijuana. Ron Paul is so small-government that he would abolish pretty much everything that isn't specifically outlined in the Constitution, which he claims is balancing the budget, but at the same time he thinks it's okay for the government to be big enough to monitor each and every pregnancy in the United States to make sure they're carried to term. Ron Paul also has issues with racial minorities, gays, and women. So yeah, he'll basically destroy the federal government (bye bye Medicare, student loans, etc), and he'll protect your liberty if you're a straight white man.

I just cannot understand how america has given both Bush presidents two full rounds and now a lot of them are not willing to give their first actually decent president in a long time his second round.

How is he decent? He's just as wasteful as Bush, just does less while at it. He's a lawyer, not a politician.
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The reason the deficit is even an issue is because of wars that weren't paid for, tax-cuts for the rich that weren't paid for, and various other things under Bush. You can blame Obama for the part of the deficit spending that helped to bring this economy out of recession, but even conservatives say used to say that deficits don't matter when it means restoring the economy. Fixing the economy was the priority.

Liberals tend to argue that the deficit is the result of both a revenue problem and a spending problem; conservatives tend to argue that the deficit is just a spending problem, and many Republicans in office have signed pledges saying they will not raise taxes on anyone for any reason. Obama has already made spending concessions to the Republicans. Yeah, right, the deficit is Obama's fault.

 

[smile72]

Foxi4 none of the Republican plans tackle the deficit, Rick Sanctorum will cut corporations taxes to 0%, Mitt Romney plans on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. They just plan on cutting social programs, now that may not sound like a big deal, but it still does nothing.

 

[prowler]

The sad fact is that most Americans think that Black people are magical creatures when they are just human like they are.

what

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Obama is a great president. The sad fact is that most Americans think that Black people are magical creatures when they are just human like they are. They make mistakes and try to solve their own personal issues like everyone else does. Anyone with a brain would realize that it's going to take more than one term to fix the American economy. Bush fucked it up real good. It's what he did best. Fucking stuff up.

You can count on my vote.

 

[Valwin]

Obama is a bad president and i hope he does not win i love how the Obama bubble burst and he now one of the worst presidents ever LOL

 

[Libertarian94]

Looks like its time for a reminder as to where the Candidates stand:
(read below) Obama.....Gingrich...Romney..Santorum...Paul
Big $ Influence.......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Wars....................YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Bail outs...............YES........YES.........YES........YES........NO
Big government......YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
War on drugs.........YES........YES.........YES.......YES........NO
Deficit spending.....YES........YES..........YES.......YES.......NO
Balanced Budget....NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
End the FED..........NO..........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Follow Constitution..NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Truthful...................NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES
Protect Liberty........NO.........NO.............NO.........NO.......YES

Ron Paul is as crazy as the rest of the Republican candidates. The only good things about Ron Paul are his foreign policy and his views on legalizing marijuana. Ron Paul is so small-government that he would abolish pretty much everything that isn't specifically outlined in the Constitution, which he claims is balancing the budget, but at the same time he thinks it's okay for the government to be big enough to monitor each and every pregnancy in the United States to make sure they're carried to term. Ron Paul also has issues with racial minorities, gays, and women. So yeah, he'll basically destroy the federal government (bye bye Medicare, student loans, etc), and he'll protect your liberty if you're a straight white man.

Sorry Lacius, but you've got a couple of things wrong.
English ain't my main language, so i could i no way formulate the response as Ron himself could, so i've added a couple of links.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdjuOhU7WwU
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGaBAb_oS84

 

[Hyro-Sama]

The sad fact is that most Americans think that Black people are magical creatures when they are just human like they are.

what

Brits wouldn't understand b/c European racism and North American racism are very different.

 

[Valwin]

I hope we can vote for the president as we are part of US. If we are able to vote I'll vote for Obama. From all of them he's the onlyone that has showed interest in resolving our status.

BS he haves shown 0 interest

 

[Foxi4]

Foxi4 none of the Republican plans tackle the deficit, Rick Sanctorum will cut corporations taxes to 0%, Mitt Romney plans on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. They just plan on cutting social programs, now that may not sound like a big deal, but it still does nothing.

Who says "tackle it"? The US is in no position to tacke its own debt, not in these unstable times. What they could attempt though is not making it any worse then it already is.

People say "It's all because of the left-overs Bush left behind him", and I call bullsh*t on that - Bush didn't invent American Interventionism, it's been a "tradition" in the States for years. Iraq and Afghanistan were not the first wars you fought in and you guys should know more then anyone that any administration leaves some debt behind it. Question is, how are You going to tackle it, and suprise suprise, Obama tackled it wrong.

The previous elections were a joke, from the outside they looked more like a cultural experiment then a political event - will the Americans choose a "Woman", a "Black Guy" or "McCain", are they going to say "No, we're not sexist!", "No, we're not racist!" or will they choose "The guy who's last name sounds like a brand of french fries" and I firmly believe that 80% of the voters had no clue what are the program either party represented.