thaddius' Console Classic 2012 Edition: Round 7

[Foxi4]

my vote goes the n64 for being the first console that implemented 3D gaming with quality and in a non cheap ass way (pre rendered backgrounds)

*cough* Sega Saturn *cough* You mention it yourself and you don't give it credit lol.

My vote goes for the PlayStation - say what you will, but it completely obliterated the competition. Despite being a tad weaker then the N64, it was simply easier to develop for (to the point that a Homebrew Development edition was released, called Net Yaroze) and the CD medium used was both bigger and more affordable, effectively cutting down the prices of games.

That, and the controller are both good reasons to vote for it, especially when you think of the later DualShock. Sure, the N64 INTRODUCED the analog stick to the world, but Sony took this newborn idea and re-defined it into a masterpiece. In those days, there wasn't a controller better then the DualShock and the design was copied time and time again. (Too bad they stopped developing the controller nowadays, it's like the time has stopped for them). Sorry Nintendo boys and girls, but... humans have two hands. A controller should have two "grips". I'm oblivious as to why Nintendo sort of "missed" that simple fact when designing the N64's controller lol. Batarang-Mode Engaged!

Don't get me wrong - I do like the N64 and the console does have alot of timeless hit titles but... Sony just offerend more for less, and to me, their console is the winner of that generation, hands-down.

 

[emigre]

I actually had Net Yaroze, I don't know how i got my hands on it. My eight year old head just couldn't get my head around it.

 

[Foxi4]

I actually had Net Yaroze, I don't know how i got my hands on it. My eight year old head just couldn't get my head around it.

By *had* you are implying that... it is no longer among us...? *wants to buy one badly in the future*

 

[emigre]

It's dead, long dead. Or to be more precise I somehow lost like how I lost my Master System and Gameboy Colour.

 

[Foxi4]

It's dead, long dead. Or to be more precise I somehow lost like how I lost my Master System and Gameboy Colour.

*gasps loudly, then chokes on the air for a while while holding his chest*

That... sounded painful. God bless its soul...

 

[thaddius]

my vote goes the n64 for being the first console that implemented 3D gaming with quality and in a non cheap ass way (pre rendered backgrounds)

*cough* Sega Saturn *cough* You mention it yourself and you don't give it credit lol.

That, and the controller are both good reasons to vote for it, especially when you think of the later DualShock. Sure, the N64 INTRODUCED the analog stick to the world, but Sony took this newborn idea and re-defined it into a masterpiece.

I know I'm just causing shit but... double standard?

Either you give the crown to the guys who came up with the idea or to the ones who perfected it - make up your mind.

I'm just joshing. I don't care. And what's a minor disagreement between two best buds?

Nintendo 64 still winning! Weird. I honestly expected the PS1 to take this round. 3 DAYS REMAIN!

 

[emigre]

Nintendo 64 still winning! Weird. I honestly expected the PS1 to take this round. 3 DAYS REMAIN!

This is GBAtemp...

 

[Smuff]

[yt]http://youtu.be/MoYyztfOc-0[/yt]

"Fly, Plaything, fly"

Sega Saturn forever

 

[Foxi4]

I know I'm just causing shit but... double standard?

Why I'd never! The first part is merely correcting him on who managed to output 3D graphics in a fashion that didn't make the viewer puke, the second is a choice between two controllers based on the comfort and functionality they provide. No double standards.

 

[thaddius]

S'all good!

It really was a joke. Nice debating with you.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

PS1 has a few good games but the N64 wins.
Besides I kind of like the N64 controller.

"A few good games"? Lolkay.

This isn't even matter of "quantity over quality", this is "quantity and quality". I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had not only better games, but more of them.

 

[PolloDiablo]

I know I'm just causing shit but... double standard?

Why I'd never! The first part is merely correcting him on who managed to output 3D graphics in a fashion that didn't make the viewer puke, the second is a choice between two controllers based on the comfort and functionality they provide. No double standards.

my vote goes the n64 for being the first console that implemented 3D gaming with quality and in a non cheap ass way (pre rendered backgrounds)

*cough* Sega Saturn *cough* You mention it yourself and you don't give it credit lol.

hehe I love the Saturn but it let’s face it... it wasn’t a big success
And indeed... it had some 3D capabilities. Here is a good article that talks about it

But I wasn’t talking only about graphics, I was talking about gameplay... the n64 perfected gameplay in 3D environments with Zelda. The Z targeting is still used to this day by almost every game in a way or another.
It wasn’t very clear when I mentioned pre-rendered backgrounds. I was talking about how you move and interact with the environments... not how pretty they look.

For me this generation was a mixbag caught in the transition between the old and the new. They really got to push the hardware to the limits in order to accomplish 3D... and lots of games suffered because of that. Take for example FFVII and FFVI.... sure VII is an amazing game and was a breakthrough for his time... but VI feels more polished, at least to me.

But I guess that is the charm of this gen

 

[thaddius]

I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had [...] better games

I could see people debating that.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I could see people debating that.

Literally the only area the N64 has better games in is FPS games.

 

[PolloDiablo]

Sega Saturn forever

 

[Eerpow]

PS1 has a few good games but the N64 wins.
Besides I kind of like the N64 controller.

"A few good games"? Lolkay.

This isn't even matter of "quantity over quality", this is "quantity and quality". I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had not only better games, but more of them.

Why are you constantly stating your opinions as facts?
Seriously, basically what you are saying is that the PSX had not only better games, but more of them... Wait, that's exactly what you said.
It's not like people are wrong by saying that they love the N64 more than the PSX.
Quality and quantity, what? Just because you didn't like, presumably the majority of the good titles on the N64 doesn't mean that they had worse quality than PSX games, quality being judged by how much entertainment you get out of a game.

N64 games were different and obviously didn't satisfy your gaming tastes, I think we all get that by now and there's nothing wrong with that.
Just as there's nothing wrong with DinohScene humbly saying that he liked the N64 more than the PSX. Saying that the PSX had a few games he obviously counts games that he considered enjoyable.

So please Guild, please, don't attack people at random just because your mind can't comprehend the possibility of someone thinking differently than you.

 

[Satangel]

PS1 for me. Especially after playing some of those gems on the PSP, wonderful experience.

 

[elgarta]

Definately the PSX. The N64 was alright in it's own way, and there were a few titles that had me playing for a while (Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Mario Party, Zelda: OOT) but the thing that really got me siding with the PSX was the fact that it was an RPG powerhouse over here. After getting reeled into the genre with Terranigma & Secret of Mana, I always felt that the lack of good RPGS (Not looking at you Quest 64!) had me steering away from it.

Plus the 3D platformers on the PSX just seemed more fun for their time. Good old Croc, Spyro and Crash Bandicoot had to be some of my faves!

 

[Midna]

I could see people debating that.

Literally the only area the N64 has better games in is FPS games.

Which is hilarious since it only had one analog stick.
In fact the PS1 is lacking in a lot of genres. It only really stood out with it's RPGs.

But frankly your tone is really putting me off, Guild. You're arguing over other people's opinions as if they are a personal insult against you and you must set them straight with the righteous truth.

In my opinion this is really a close choice between the N64 and the PS1. There is nothing objective about this.

 

[FireGrey]

PS1 has a few good games but the N64 wins.
Besides I kind of like the N64 controller.

"A few good games"? Lolkay.

This isn't even matter of "quantity over quality", this is "quantity and quality". I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had not only better games, but more of them.

Name these "better games" for us please.