ROM Hack Pokemon Clear Crystal

[wasim]

I hope you'll do it !
and good luck

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

But can't you copy the data of Zekrom from B/W to heart gold? or can't you just "make" some data of Zekrom on heart gold? Imagine it was something like this:

http://gbatemp.net/g...wobbbbbbleejpg/

(if that link doesn't work, the picture is in the spoiler thing. although
I'm not sure it will work...)

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|51 |00 |00 |10 |23 |1B |56 |2E |17 | 60|

 

[andibad]

But can't you copy the data of Zekrom from B/W to heart gold? or can't you just "make" some data of Zekrom on heart gold? Imagine it was something like this:

the answer is "NO"... remember pokemon BW and HGSS is not same, pokemon BW is based DP, HGSS is based on platinum. HGSS is have extra stat data is pokethlon data, and on pokemon BW pokethlon data is not set is padding betwen TM and Move tutor, also pokemon BW is have new 3rd ability 3rd item (dream world) is not avaiable on HGSS, also new ability is not on HGSS. so is not simply copy from BW to HGSS... hehehehe.

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

the answer is "NO"... remember pokemon BW and HGSS is not same, pokemon BW is based DP, HGSS is based on platinum. HGSS is have extra stat data is pokethlon data, and on pokemon BW pokethlon data is not set is padding betwen TM and Move tutor, also pokemon BW is have new 3rd ability 3rd item (dream world) is not avaiable on HGSS, also new ability is not on HGSS. so is not simply copy from BW to HGSS... hehehehe.

Huh? but can't you just make your own pokeathalon data? and delete the 3rd ability data? sure it's not absolutely straight forward, but if you ask me,.....Actually don't ask me. ask someone else. I'd find anything hard with my current experience X_X
Anyways, they'd be able to do it quite simply, so it's not impossible.

 

[Black-Ice]

Huh? but can't you just make your own pokeathalon data? and delete the 3rd ability data? sure it's not absolutely straight forward, but if you ask me,.....Actually don't ask me. ask someone else. I'd find anything hard with my current experience X_X
Anyways, they'd be able to do it quite simply, so it's not impossible.

I dont think you can do that but asking the other veterans at poke hacking would be a good idea,
And not being able to put B&W pokemon in HGSS doesnt flop ur plan. It just means u can spend more time adding different effects to the 495 that can exist in ur hack.
Plus some of the B&W pokemon are stupidly ugly

 

[andibad]

You can edit them on current pokemon data, yeah for now you can edit HGSS data like stat pokemon and some is avaiable on HGSS. i mean you can't replace data from BW to HGSS, is different stucture, it will wrong if you still replace them XD.

impossible = nothing.... , just patient wait someone will discover that.

@black-ace: yeah some pokemon gen5 (BW) is more ugly than jynx, is stunfisk XD

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

Hah, yeah I know most of them are ugly but some of them rock, focus, can't you see the similarity between lucario, gallade, and zoroark? zoroark rocks
but still, my fav will always be lucario (well, arceus and dusknoir too...and gallade isn't out of the list either, but lucario = #1)
but still, can't you just, instead of getting the data and pasting it, make your own data on them and don't include 3rd ability data? personally, I don't see much wrong with that, but I also don't see much wrong with pigs flying so what do you guys think?
oh, btw andibad, I nice new pic .......another thing, could you guys please answer this question? I kinda feel like it was skipped...

After I started to go full throttle in focusing on hex editor, there's something that I've discovered, but I'm not sure it's entirely true.
I've started to practice hacking pokemon platinum, since I have a file on it that beat the elite four, the battle frontier and my character is now kicking back in front of

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the survival area

and I totally abandoned my pokemon platinum save file since I caught every legendary pokemon (well except for:

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Zapdos, Moltres, and Articuno).

But there's something I've realized, (although I'm not entirely sure, it's just a hunch) that: After hex editing pokemon platinum (and probably is the same for any other game) If the game doesn't give me a message saying that the game is corrupt and stuff like that, and it loads fine even after hex editing it and changing some digits, shouldn't something change? I'm almost absolutely sure that something should change with every little number, but how the heck am I supposed to know what did change? I'm hardly gonna play through the entire story again and try every TM on every single pokemon and raise every pokemon to level 100, isn't there some kind of way or tool that tells you what changed in the game?

 

[Black-Ice]

You can edit them on current pokemon data, yeah for now you can edit HGSS data like stat pokemon and some is avaiable on HGSS. i mean you can't replace data from BW to HGSS, is different stucture, it will wrong if you still replace them XD.

impossible = nothing.... , just patient wait someone will discover that.

@black-ace: yeah some pokemon gen5 (BW) is more ugly than jynx, is stunfisk XD

Totally agree. Talk about TRUBBISH. Its a garbage bag!

But there's something I've realized, (although I'm not entirely sure, it's just a hunch) that: After hex editing pokemon platinum (and probably is the same for any other game) If the game doesn't give me a message saying that the game is corrupt and stuff like that, and it loads fine even after hex editing it and changing some digits, shouldn't something change? I'm almost absolutely sure that something should change with every little number, but how the heck am I supposed to know what did change? I'm hardly gonna play through the entire story again and try every TM on every single pokemon and raise every pokemon to level 100, isn't there some kind of way or tool that tells you what changed in the game?

Do you kno what you edited/changed?

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

Another question that just came up to me. I'd appreciate it if you'd answer the other questions first though.
If any of you have ever used Crystaltile 2, Could you help? I tried editing something in pokemon platinum, and after I finished editing I wanted to save so I could try it out. I couldn't. For some strange reason the save, save as buttons and the save icon on the toolbar are all mysteriously greyed out. What the heck?

Previously by MNOPYZ Strife:

View PostMNOPYZ Strife, on 19 November 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:
But there's something I've realized, (although I'm not entirely sure, it's just a hunch) that: After hex editing pokemon platinum (and probably is the same for any other game) If the game doesn't give me a message saying that the game is corrupt and stuff like that, and it loads fine even after hex editing it and changing some digits, shouldn't something change? I'm almost absolutely sure that something should change with every little number, but how the heck am I supposed to know what did change? I'm hardly gonna play through the entire story again and try every TM on every single pokemon and raise every pokemon to level 100, isn't there some kind of way or tool that tells you what changed in the game?

by Black-ice:

Do you kno what you edited/changed?

Absolutely! .....Not!

I was hoping to change a digit and see what it changed in the game to know what the digit is for, so I can change it to what I want. Is there some other way? or perhaps, like I said before, a tool of some sort that tells you what changed?

 

[twistedfatal]

it should say so and so has been modified just click yes then it will save

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

it should say so and so has been modified just click yes then it will save

I think you understood wrong, I don't wanna know what was modified in the numbers, I wanna know what it changed in the game, be it evolution type, evolution level, movement-capable movement grids, TM compatibility, or move sets.

Also, thanks for that yes stuff, it helped, but now more important things grayed out. the NDS button that lets you see whats inside the rom X_X any solution?

Don't mind about the crossed out stuff, it's crossed out for a reason just tried it now, it worked

 

[coolness]

so you`re starting this?
can i do something?

 

[Deleted-236924]

Plus some of the B&W pokemon are stupidly ugly

Plus some of the R&G Pokémon are stupidly ugly.
And some of the G&S Pokémon.
And R&S.
D&P, too.

 

[andibad]

Plus some of the B&W pokemon are stupidly ugly

Plus some of the R&G Pokémon are stupidly ugly.
And some of the G&S Pokémon.
And R&S.
D&P, too.

RSE too i dislike this generation.

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

Sure this post is mainly for coolness, but any other members out there that are interested in joining the Clear Crystal team, just pm me

so you`re starting this?
can i do something?

Of Course you can! I could really use a helping hand   Of course, I obviously won't ask you to do ALL of these, just choose one, work on it and have fun   The main things I need are:

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1-Finding out how long each Pokemon value is in HG/SS. (I mean in bytes). There's a link here that helps A LOT. The sad thing is that this link tells the value of bulbasaur for gen 3 pokemon games only, It obviously differs from gen 3 data to gen 4 data, since in HG/SS there's additional pokeathalon data, and a few other things I can't remember. (although the only thing I can think of is pokeathalon data). In gen 3, each pokemon has 28 bytes of data, well according to that link anyways, but I'd say that there are 2 more that should say evolution type and what it evolves to. but then I thought for a second. the last 3 bytes are all question marked...I'd say that one of them is what it's evolution type is, (level / happiness / stone / area), and the 3rd byte says what level it evolves at, the stone needed, the happiness needed, or the area. VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: This is how I THINK it goes like. It is not Official in anyway, It's just what's in my mind, what I Imagine it's like...I'm not even sure how many bytes each one is. maybe 1, maybe 2, not sure. Also, I'd "imagine" that there are 5 bytes for pokeathalon, since pokeathalon has 5 parts, speed, skill, power, jump, and stamina. I'd say that each pokemon has at least 33 bytes of data for it, but It could be a lot more. Just keep trying, testing, and have fun Here's the link: www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123174

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2-How to edit text (I need that to fiddle with the story)...Also, all of you creative thinkers who have bright story ideas, you are very welcome to help make the story. I'm not too good with stories anyways...

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3-I badly need to know how to edit the pokemon that trainers control, and how to edit wild pokemon and there ratio of them appearing.I would usually just edit the pokemon Gym Leaders control using that tool they made, but seeing as I'm gonna add data for Unova pokemon, and I'm possibly gonna add the WHOLE (if not the starters and evolutions only) UrHuSdex (fakemons), and the Gym Leaders are probably gonna control some of them, so tools won't really help.

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4-I'm not sure it's possible, but if it is, I wanna know how to control when you can find a pokemon in a certain area. otherwise, I won't be able to make the "Legendary pokemons running away from ace trainers" feature, they'd just be out in the wild with a very very low appearing ratio, which is quite boring   I need the exact same thing with using TMs. after you use them, they break. a recycling tree hugging hippy takes the broken TM and gives it to the recycling company. the recycling company recycles the broken TM and puts it in the stores. Funny story isn't it? this is just to show what really happens and how the TM lands in the markets, Obviously I'm not gonna make that whole scene every time you use a TM, that would be a pain. So it's best that you just "Imagine" that happens. lol

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5-If you're good at making over-world sprites and/or battle sprites for pokemons, It would really help a lot. Coz I need help making another 255 battle sprites and over-world sprites for the pokemons that are gonna be new to HG/SS. I'm gonna need quite a lot of you "artists" because it's gonna take years to make 255 sprites alone.

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6-I'm gonna need someone to make a cool starting screen instead of Ho-oh flying around or Lugia swimming around. Sure Suicune was the mascot for pokemon crystal, any of these pokemon would also make a great mascoteyoxys, Arceus, Lucario, Altione (from urhusdex fakemons), Suicune would also be fine, Minestal (also from urhusdex fakemons), Auroliss (...Also from urhus fakemons...). If you could, make the starting screen 3D just like Lugia, Ho-oh, Zekrom and Reshiram. It's best if the mascot was running/flying through a cave full of Crystals. I'm sure it seems quite Impossible, and not that important, but little things like that are what make life. Whoever wishes to join the Clear Crystal Team, Try your best!

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7-I don't need it very much, but If anyone wants to, hack the music of the game. But I actually like the music of HG/SS, Especially the music for new bark town, and both sinnoh music and hoenn music on the radio. If you think the music for any other places in this game could be made better, Go ahead, Every little thing makes this game even better   Sadly, I won't be able to help in this or even test it, because my computer's sound system is broken, and the only thing that allows me to hear in my computer are my headphones, and I don't even fully own them, other computer users in my family continuously occupy them, and to adding some music and testing and retrying for me is a tough task, since I can't keep the headphones with me for long. deadly, isn't it?

VERY IMPORTANT NOTElease don't say I'm dumping my homework on you guys. It's just that this is a very long project, and the more members there are of Team Clear Crystal, the funner this whole project would be. It would also be easier, and we could help each-other out. Oh, how beautiful that would be.Also, there will be something special for all of you who help me make this hack.

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I plan on making some of the Ace Trainers named after all of you who help me, your ace trainer gets to have your favorite pokemon team, and if the hack is successful enough, make it in the history books lol 

 I'm gonna edit the polls and add a question to choose which pokemon should be the mascot. Have fun voting!

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I'd like to say: I feel great, I finally know what it feels to be like you guys, I feel like a hacker, and most importantly I feel like this hack could actually work! I'm so excited! Cherish every step of this beautiful journey, we'll only live through a project this big once in a lifetime!

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Don't worry, I'm gonna be doing tough jobs in this project, which are 1,2,3, and 4. I'm currently doing 1, I'm gonna need to know how to edit text before I can do 2, I'm gonna be editing like crazy with 3, and I'm gonna need confirmation on 4's possibility before I can work on it...Also, when and if this hack ever gets finished, I'm gonna need help knowing how to put all our work together...also, to make it legal, we can only make a patch of the hack, and the guy that downloads the hack needs his own rom, and patches the rom with the Clear Crystal Patch. Sadly, I don't know much about patching X_X I'll just go check it out on Google...4th day since this game was just an idea. Now, it gets serious. Once I know how to do 2,3 and 4, and I solve 1, and I get help on 5,6,7, the hack will be right in-front of us.

By the way, sorry to say this but could you stop talking about ugly pokemons? thank you put the whole thing in spoilers. don't forget to open them all

 

[andibad]

Once I know how to do 2,3 and 4, and I solve 1, and I get help on 5,6,7, the hack will be right in-front of us.By the way, sorry to say this but could you stop talking about ugly pokemons? thank you

where? i just no see point 1-7 ? nevermind i was figure out .

Of Course you can! I could really use a helping hand Of course, I obviously won't ask you to do ALL of these, just choose one, work on it and have fun The main things I need are:

1. 1-Finding out how long each Pokemon value is in HG/SS. (I mean in bytes). There's a link here that helps A LOT. The sad thing is that this link tells the value of bulbasaur for gen 3 pokemon games only, It obviously differs from gen 3 data to gen 4 data, since in HG/SS there's additional pokeathalon data, and a few other things I can't remember. (although the only thing I can think of is pokeathalon data). In gen 3, each pokemon has 28 bytes of data, well according to that link anyways, but I'd say that there are 2 more that should say evolution type and what it evolves to. but then I thought for a second. the last 3 bytes are all question marked...I'd say that one of them is what it's evolution type is, (level / happiness / stone / area), and the 3rd byte says what level it evolves at, the stone needed, the happiness needed, or the area. VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: This is how I THINK it goes like. It is not Official in anyway, It's just what's in my mind, what I Imagine it's like...I'm not even sure how many bytes each one is. maybe 1, maybe 2, not sure. Also, I'd "imagine" that there are 5 bytes for pokeathalon, since pokeathalon has 5 parts, speed, skill, power, jump, and stamina. I'd say that each pokemon has at least 33 bytes of data for it, but It could be a lot more. Just keep trying, testing, and have fun Here's the link:...I'm not entirely sure that the link feature worked on the link so just copy and paste it if it didn't work.
2. 2-How to edit text (I need that to fiddle with the story)...Also, all of you creative thinkers who have bright story ideas, you are very welcome to help make the story. I'm not too good with stories anyways...
3. 3-I badly need to know how to edit the pokemon that trainers control, and how to edit wild pokemon and there ratio of them appearing.I would usually just edit the pokemon Gym Leaders control using that tool they made, but seeing as I'm gonna add data for Unova pokemon, and I'm possibly gonna add the WHOLE (if not the starters and evolutions only) UrHuSdex (fakemons), and the Gym Leaders are probably gonna control some of them, so tools won't really help.
4. 4-I'm not sure it's possible, but if it is, I wanna know how to control when you can find a pokemon in a certain area. otherwise, I won't be able to make the "Legendary pokemons running away from ace trainers" feature, they'd just be out in the wild with a very very low appearing ratio, which is quite boring I need the exact same thing with using TMs. after you use them, they break. a recycling tree hugging hippy takes the broken TM and gives it to the recycling company. the recycling company recycles the broken TM and puts it in the stores. Funny story isn't it? this is just to show what really happens and how the TM lands in the markets, Obviously I'm not gonna make that whole scene every time you use a TM, that would be a pain. So it's best that you just "Imagine" that happens. lol
5. 5-If you're good at making over-world sprites and/or battle sprites for pokemons, It would really help a lot. Coz I need help making another 255 battle sprites and over-world sprites for the pokemons that are gonna be new to HG/SS. I'm gonna need quite a lot of you "artists" because it's gonna take years to make 255 sprites alone.
6. 6-I'm gonna need someone to make a cool starting screen instead of Ho-oh flying around or Lugia swimming around. Sure Suicune was the mascot for pokemon crystal, any of these pokemon would also make a great mascoteyoxys, Arceus, Lucario, Altione (from urhusdex fakemons), Suicune would also be fine, Minestal (also from urhusdex fakemons), Auroliss (...Also from urhus fakemons...). If you could, make the starting screen 3D just like Lugia, Ho-oh, Zekrom and Reshiram. It's best if the mascot was running/flying through a cave full of Crystals. I'm sure it seems quite Impossible, and not that important, but little things like that are what make life. Whoever wishes to join the Clear Crystal Team, Try your best!
7. 7-I don't need it very much, but If anyone wants to, hack the music of the game. But I actually like the music of HG/SS, Especially the music for new bark town, and both sinnoh music and hoenn music on the radio. If you think the music for any other places in this game could be made better, Go ahead, Every little thing makes this game even better Sadly, I won't be able to help in this or even test it, because my computer's sound system is broken, and the only thing that allows me to hear in my computer are my headphones, and I don't even fully own them, other computer users in my family continuously occupy them, and to adding some music and testing and retrying for me is a tough task, since I can't keep the headphones with me for long. deadly, isn't it? VERY IMPORTANT NOTElease don't say I'm dumping my homework on you guys. It's just that this is a very long project, and the more members there are of Team Clear Crystal, the funner this whole project would be.

hm.... for create 3D Models is not easy... is need comercial tools for create that, yeah i know blender, but is no tools for convert them can readable on blender, i just could find that. for music you can swaping every sseq and sbnk +swar. clear crystal? o.o sorry for now i no interesting to join to you group, i just like help someone without join the team....

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

sorry about it being all squished together I fixed it by putting each one in a spoiler so it would all be very neat and you could hide what you're done reading by the way andibad, I'm not forcing 3D, Actually a 2D Lucario running through a crystal cave would be pretty cool too, I just said it would be cooler in 3D

 

[Arshes91]

woow it could be good to see fakemon on to Nds but please add all 5th gen in your hack i love them all and old gen too.

Please guys don't tell me again for those things is ugly and the fakemons is better than the originals, im totaly respect for original so im a big fan of origin and fakes too

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

to tell the truth, the best mascot for Clear Crystal would have to be Minestal. I mean cmon, He's covered in crystals!
I think a pretty good story could be made if Minestal was the mascot, and the poll kinda seems unfair since the people that voted in the previous poll can't vote in this one, so there won't be much voters

Oh before I forget, there's gonna be 1 Final Job. Sorry, I forgot to add this one, I just noticed it now.

Hack Job No.8:

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8-I need someone to help make the voices of 255 pokemons...
It'll be easy to add Unova pokemon voices since they were already made, and we know what they sound like, so we practically just get the voice data on the 150 unova pokemon and put it in the voice data for each pokemon in Clear Crystal, so that leaves us with 105 pokemon voices that need to be made up and put in. Have fun

hm.... for create 3D Models is not easy... is need comercial tools for create that, yeah i know blender, but is no tools for convert them can readable on blender, i just could find that. for music you can swaping every sseq and sbnk +swar. clear crystal? o.o sorry for now i no interesting to join to you group, i just like help someone without join the team....

Oh, Andibad, you're not interested? too bad. You seem pretty knowledgeable about this whole thing. If you ever change your mind, pm me

 

[MNOPYZ Strife]

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Ok this is just plain strange. I looked up bulbasaurs data on hex editor, and i found it. but the strange thing is, I found 2 of it X_X I edited the data that should change the stats of all bulbasaurs, I changed both the data chains I found and edited hp, attack, S.atk, s.def, and speed. for some strange reason, it didn't work -.-' if it doesn't work at first, try and try again...
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________!!!!! I DID IT!!!!!I get it now! andibad, it doesn't change the current stats of the pokemon, It changes the stats it SHOULD have at a certain level. to prove it, I just trained my bulbasaur that I edited to make grass and flying type (I was so happy I was able to do that. check out my happiness in page 5, first post   ) and I leveled it up to level 6, and it gained crazy stats! like an additional 16 for atk,s.atk,def,s.def,speed, and hp!!