Don Lemon and Anti ICE protesters Storm Church in Minneapolis

[emigre]

This thread is a great reminder that there's no hate like Christian love.

 

[Vixi]

This has to be the most unbiased NYP article I've read. Even they don't want to be seen taking ICE's side.

 

[Space_Goddess_Samus_Aran]

Yes, AFD

exactly

 

[Valwinz]

Justice is happening now if they can arrest Don Lemon too

 

[Foxi4]

I think we narrowly avoided reaching peak funny, we *almost* saw an affluent gay black television anchor being arrested for violating *the KKK act*. There’s a fair chance that nothing would be funny after this ever again. I was worried I’d injure my funny bone, but it appears the judge rejected DOJ’s charges against Lemon on the grounds of him appearing in the Church in his journalistic capacity. Maybe this is for the better. Stay safe, guys - we live in very interesting times.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/don-lemon-justice-department-minnesota

 

[Xzi]

Maybe this is for the better. Stay safe, guys - we live in very interesting times.

In the US, we've been living in the era of fake Christians using the religion as cover for their evil deeds for at least fifty years now.

“‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God." - Leviticus 19:33-34

 

[Foxi4]

In the US, we've been living in the era of fake Christians using the religion as cover for their evil deeds for at least fifty years now.

“‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God." - Leviticus 19:33-34

You can quote the Bible at me all you like, the protesters violated the FACE act at minimum. It doesn’t matter what you think about Christians, it’s illegal to interrupt church proceedings in this manner. “Use of force or threat of force or physical obstruction to intentionally injure, intimidate, or interfere with or attempt to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship” is very clear. As for the KKK act, denying “any of the rights, privileges, or immunities, or protection, named in the Constitution” encompasses the right to exercise religion. They shouldn’t have done that. The DOJ actually has pretty solid grounds to press federal charges, even if ultimately nothing comes of it. It’s an unnecessary legal kerfuffle that could’ve been avoided if the protest just took place outside without obstructing worship.

 

[Hanafuda]

In the US, we've been living in the era of fake Christians using the religion as cover for their evil deeds for at least fifty years now.

“‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God." - Leviticus 19:33-34

Leviticus is Old Testament. If you really want to take swipe at fake Christians for being hypocrites, at least know what part of the Bible to quote.

I happen to agree with you about the 'fake Christian' thing. But whether they're fake or not doesn't change that the disruptors (I won't call them protestors) knew they were interfering with a religious service. And there's a law about that. And nobody's above the law, right?

 

[AncientBoi]

It's called Freedom of Religion, Under the First Amendment Of the Constitution. [US]

 

[Xzi]

I happen to agree with you about the 'fake Christian' thing. But whether they're fake or not doesn't change that the disruptors (I won't call them protestors) knew they were interfering with a religious service. And there's a law about that. And nobody's above the law, right?

If Donald Trump wasn't considered above the law, none of this would be happening; there would be no need to protest his personal gestapo because he'd be behind bars. Nor would the feds be shielding Johnathan Ross from prosecution for murder.

As far as first amendment rights go, I don't believe freedom of religion should override freedom of protest. It's ridiculous to pretend that laws are still being enforced equally or justly, or that lawfulness is a measure of morality in these unprecedented times.

 

[AncientBoi]

If Donald Trump wasn't considered above the law, none of this would be happening; there would be no need to protest his personal gestapo because he'd be behind bars. Nor would the feds be shielding Johnathan Ross from prosecution for murder.

As far as first amendment rights go, I don't believe freedom of religion should override freedom of protest. It's ridiculous to pretend that laws are still being enforced equally or justly, or that lawfulness is a measure of morality in these unprecedented times.

Both "Amendments" are correct. In the freedom of protest it says the word "Peaceful". Meaning that both can be applied, but "Peacefully [non-violent]" done. js.

 

[Xzi]

Both "Amendments" are correct. In the freedom of protest it says the word "Peaceful". Meaning that both can be applied, but "Peacefully [non-violent]" done. js.

And I'm all for peace as long as its being enforced on both the state and federal level. When the "peacekeepers" turn violent and begin shooting women and gassing children, however, the lines start to blur. The people responsible for committing such atrocities shouldn't be allowed to blend back in to civilized society like nothing happened. Willing to bet that a lot of worshipers at that church had no idea their pastor was ICE until this protest happened.

 

[AncientBoi]

And I'm all for peace as long as its being enforced on both the state and federal level. When the "peacekeepers" turn violent and begin shooting women and gassing children, however, the lines start to blur. The people responsible for committing such atrocities shouldn't be allowed to blend back in to civilized society like nothing happened. Willing to bet that a lot of worshipers at that church had no idea their pastor was ICE until this protest happened.

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[Lostbhoy]

Don Lemon sounds like an unlicensed Beatles game character

 

[Sir Tortoise]

Leviticus is Old Testament. If you really want to take swipe at fake Christians for being hypocrites, at least know what part of the Bible to quote.

What's wrong with the quote? This is very off-topic but I'm curious, are you implying Christians don't believe in it and we should be quoting the New Testament? It's the third book, it seems pretty widely regarded as canon.

 

[titan_tim]

What's wrong with the quote? This is very off-topic but I'm curious, are you implying Christians don't believe in it and we should be quoting the New Testament? It's the third book, it seems pretty widely regarded as canon.

The old testament is..... inconvenient for them. They're happy enough to cherry-pick laws from it as justification for hate. If they find something else that they don't agree with, they disregard it as irrelevant.

It's just a cheap cop-out.

 

[Hanafuda]

What's wrong with the quote? This is very off-topic but I'm curious, are you implying Christians don't believe in it and we should be quoting the New Testament? It's the third book, it seems pretty widely regarded as canon.

I'm not religious at all, but I was raised in a family that sure was. The Old Testament is God's covenant with the Jews. God's laws for the Jews. If you ask most Christian scholars (not "religious studies" academics, but serious believers) they'll tell you the rules of the Old Testament are full of wisdom, but they are not law to Christians. Jesus made a new deal with his Father on behalf of all humanity, not just Jews. That's why, for example, modern Christians basically ignore the Old Testament's prohibition on eating pork. Doesn't apply to them, they say (if they've bothered to think about it at all, which most haven't).

Yes, it's hogwash dogma. But many Christians do consider only the New Testament as the part that's actually binding on them.

 

[titan_tim]

I'm not religious at all, but I was raised in a family that sure was. The Old Testament is God's covenant with the Jews. God's laws for the Jews. If you ask most Christian scholars (not "religious studies" academics, but serious believers) they'll tell you the rules of the Old Testament are full of wisdom, but they are not law to Christians. Jesus made a new deal with his Father on behalf of all humanity, not just Jews. That's why, for example, modern Christians basically ignore the Old Testament's prohibition on eating pork. Doesn't apply to them, they say (if they've bothered to think about it at all, which most haven't).

Yes, it's hogwash dogma. But many Christians do consider only the New Testament as the part that's actually binding on them.

Unless it has to do with justifying hate, like the quote about men lying with other men. Then they're all OVER the old testament.

 

[Foxi4]

If Donald Trump wasn't considered above the law, none of this would be happening; there would be no need to protest his personal gestapo because he'd be behind bars. Nor would the feds be shielding Johnathan Ross from prosecution for murder.

As far as first amendment rights go, I don't believe freedom of religion should override freedom of protest. It's ridiculous to pretend that laws are still being enforced equally or justly, or that lawfulness is a measure of morality in these unprecedented times.

”The protesters can commit civil rights violations because orange man is bad”?

 

[Xzi]

Unless it has to do with justifying hate, like the quote about men lying with other men. Then they're all OVER the old testament.

Yeah, most modern Christians don't read the Old or New Testament, they just go on feels and most often align with the "wrathful" parts of the Old Testament rather than anything from the New. The same fundamental message of "love thy neighbor" is in both.

”The protesters can commit civil rights violations because orange man is bad”?

"Murder doesn't justify even the tiniest bit of disorder/incivility"? If you wage war on a state in the US, you better be fucking thankful that all you got was some yelling in return.

Also, can you even call it "disrupting a religious service" if the pastor doesn't follow the religion's teachings? Seems to me those protestors were being good samaritans by calling out a swindler.