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Update: US and Israel begin bombing campaign against Iran

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SeltzerMist said:
I edited my response before this post was finished, so please disregard the asking of the source there.
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Okay then I'll reply to your other point

Should we put boots on the ground and spend another 20 years occupying a country? No

Should we lob some bombs at some murderers and try to help every day people being shredded by their own military? I don't see why not

We have given Israel 300 billion USD, and continue to give them 4 billion a year. We gave them over 20 billion in the first year of the "Gaza war" alone

So what are a few bombs?

In the long term a stable Iran will save us a lot of money anyway - because guess who is always attacking Israel? That's right, Iran and its proxies

Take out Iran and maybe we can start saving 4 billion a year for ourselves
 
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x65943 said:
Should we lob some bombs at some murders and try to help every day people being shredded by their own military? I don't see why not
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I don't see why we need to foot the bill for one, but also this adds instability. This administration isn't competent enough to ensure the actual threats are targeted either and we might just end up with dozens more dead or injured civilians.
x65943 said:
We have given Israel 300 billion USD, and continue to give them 4 billion a year. We gave them over 20 billion in the first year of the "Gaza war" alone

So what are a few bombs?

In the long term a stable Iran will save us a lot of money anyway - because guess who is always attacking Israel? That's right, Iran and its proxies

Take out Iran and maybe we can start saving 4 billion a year for ourselves
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How about for a period instead, we just stop giving any of em money?
 
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SeltzerMist said:
I don't see why we need to foot the bill for one, but also this adds instability. This administration isn't competent enough to ensure the actual threats are targeted either and we might just end up with dozens more dead or injured civilians.

How about for a period instead, we just stop giving any of em money?
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The money is somewhat inconsequential for us for bombing (after all we bombed their nuclear sites not long ago)

But again, world stability might mean it actually saves us money in the end

Do you know the world's busiest shipping route was plagued by Iran backed houthi rebels costing the world billions of dollars? In a globalized world we can't pretend other countries don't exist
 
Too bad they're Supreme leader is hidden deep underground somewhere, along with his cohorts. That's where we need to drop some bunker busters. I don't think bombing anywhere else is gonna do much to stop them, unfortunately.
 
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BigOnYa said:
Too bad they're Supreme leader is hidden deep underground somewhere, along with his cohorts. That's where we need to drop some bunker busters. I don't think bombing anywhere else is gonna do much to stop them, unfortunately.
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Bombing military installations, ammo depots, arms manufacturers etc

These things will decrease the regime's ability to wage war against its own citizens

Bombing the oil fields and oil tankers, these will impede the regime's ability to make money they need to keep the higher ups happy

Once morale is low, the money stops coming in, the army is without bullets, then you will see the people seizing the government itself

(Hopefully)

All that to say, we don't need to kill Khamenei, we just need to convince the subordinates and military that backing him doesn't make sense
 
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x65943 said:
Bombing military installations, ammo depots, arms manufacturers etc

These things will decrease the regime's ability to wage war against its own citizens

Bombing the oil fields and oil tankers, these will impede the regime's ability to make money they need to keep the higher ups happy

Once morale is low, the money stops coming in, the army is without bullets, then you will see the people seizing the government itself

(Hopefully)

All that to say, we don't need to kill Khamenei, we just need to convince the subordinates and military that backing him doesn't make sense
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Exactly, that work very well.

If we can't kill Khamenei so best option is cripple his life as much as possible.

Also, even if the US manage to kill Khamenei, they need to bomb many of military bases to reduce the paramilitary population.
 
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Sometimes i forget people out there hate the idea of dictators been remove from power
 
Valwinz said:
Sometimes i forget people out there hate the idea of dictators been remove from power
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Yeah what kind of moron would want to keep Putin, Netanyahu, and Trump in power? Superpowers that can't escape authoritarianism themselves certainly can't help anybody else escape it either.
 
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Xzi said:
Yeah what kind of moron would want to keep Putin, Netanyahu, and Trump in power? Superpowers that can't escape authoritarianism themselves certainly can't help anybody else escape it either.
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The absolute lack of awareness to have made the post you're responding to
 
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Xzi said:
Yeah what kind of moron would want to keep Putin, Netanyahu, and Trump in power? Superpowers that can't escape authoritarianism themselves certainly can't help anybody else escape it either.
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Let Russia to annex Puerto Rico and he will be thrilled to live under Russian government.
 
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Moe87 said:
Let Russia to annex Puerto Rico and he will be thrilled to live under Russian government.
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Not just to Putin, Trump is willing to basically give away Puerto Rico to anybody who would give them something else more useful in his mind.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...icane-stricken-puerto-rico-greenland-n1237336

In a time where Trump is constantly saying he wants Greenland/Canada/Panama/Venezuela/Gaza/etc, it must hurt to be the one area that he sees so little value in it that he wants to get rid of it. Val raises Trump up on a pedestal, while Trump craps on him from above.
 
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Really gets people here mad that the Iranian just like the People of Venezuela are going to be free.


I will say this it was amazing that Trump use Puertorico to do the operation
 
x65943 said:
I was watching a video, there are so many bodies the regime now throws them on the street for loved ones to pick up

Just a street filled with body bags
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that sucks.

and I want you guys to know that this shouldn't be tolerated in this world. I have met Iranian people that live nearby me and they are good people.
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SeltzerMist said:
So like again, is it the burden of the US taxpayers to attempt to "fix" this situation? I'm not doubting it's tragic but we don't make things better in the middle east.
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we are the world police.
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Iran needs a regime change and there will be more native blood spilled than American if someone doesn't intervene. I would have to say that the US idea of cutting the head off the snake is the best idea of them that I have seen so far.
 
Valwinz said:
Really gets people here mad that the Iranian just like the People of Venezuela are going to be free.


I will say this it was amazing that Trump use Puertorico to do the operation
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Why would that make anyone mad? I think everyone would like to see Venezuela and Iran citizens have freedom.
I hope you have heard, Trump wants to exile/ get rid of Puerto Rico, so its not part of the USA anymore.
 
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BigOnYa said:
Why would that make anyone mad? I think everyone would like to see Venezuela and Iran citizens have freedom.
I hope you have heard, Trump wants to exile/ get rid of Puerto Rico, so its not part of the USA anymore.
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bro posting fake news now lmao.
 
BigOnYa said:
Why would that make anyone mad? I think everyone would like to see Venezuela and Iran citizens have freedom.
I hope you have heard, Trump wants to exile/ get rid of Puerto Rico, so its not part of the USA anymore.
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why isn't @BigOnYa a trump fan :( lololoo
 
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