Stephen Colber Show cancelled after mocking a Trump bribe

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Claims are not evidence? So the multiple people who worked on the Late Show and who are close to Colbert who've come forward saying that Colbert's cancellation was due to the merger, those people are not evidence? So your argument...in court...your legal argument...is that testimony doesn't count and should be ignored? Lol. Ok. You are literally in no position to be demanding "evidence" when every bit of scientific data disagrees with your entire ideology, which is literally founded upon faith, and you'll dismiss said data based on your own ideas of a "woke conspiracy" within the deep state. It's easy to shout "evidence! evidence! evidence!" when it's convenient for you, isn't it?
Correct, claims in and of themselves are not evidence... When someone claims they were wronged, it is up to them to demonstrate that they were wronged, especially when accusing a specific person of being guilty of wronging them.
Meanwhile, the workers saying that the cancellation is due to the merger only further supports that the show was cancelled due to it running a deficit for years now and has a shrinking audience.
If you want to quibble over a LEGAL standard for an accusation or claim, then no it is most certainly not evidence, by all means show us a single court case decided by an accusation or claim. Testimony PROVING the accusation or claim is evidence, not the accusation or claim itself, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with how evidence and the discovery process works.

Plenty of evidence as always, just you being yourself means its a waste to engage with you.

Oh good, so then you can share this "plenty of evidence" of your claim with us?
 
It's the case that Colbert's ratings have gone downhill and the show isn't very good or even all that funny. But it's also the case that the show has a very loyal Liberal fanbase (not the young people that Colbert thinks they appeal to but rather old people who still watch TV).
He's often playing on the Youtube TV app at my parents place.
 
If you want to quibble over a LEGAL standard for an accusation or claim, then no it is most certainly not evidence, by all means show us a single court case decided by an accusation or claim.
The only reason Bill Cosby is in jail is due to him having over 40 claims against him. In lieu of evidence, strong testimony is accepted. If testimony or claims didn't matter, they wouldn't be fucking heard in court. And I'm the person who's supposed to educate myself?
remember, the colbert show was costing millions and produced such generation-spanning epics as

wait let me check my notes again

oh yeah, "skibidi bbiden"
Reminder: the show being shit isn't an excuse for government intervention. I hate Jimmy Kimmel, but I hate 1st amendment violations much more, and I wouldn't want his show to get shut down due to Trump either.
 
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on the upside, josh johnson is hosting the daily show from tuesday through thursday this week
i'm so excited to see how he does
Finally. He's more than earned the chance. I like him more than any of the other correspondents if I'm being honest (Chieng comes close) and none of the others are a worthy followup to Jon as hosts.
 
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Finally. He's more than earned the chance. I like him more than any of the other correspondents if I'm being honest (Chieng comes close) and none of the others are a worthy followup to Jon as hosts.
if josh's youtube channel is any indicator, he's the next big thing
nobody's really ready to be a host, of course, but josh is so talented
i'm expecting a breath of fresh air akin to when john oliver ran the daily show for a week back in the day
 
I hope Stephen Colbert goes full scorched earth mode, and keeps up the Epstein list and calling out other blatant corruption within the current admin.
 
With others, yes, with you? No. No point in engaging with someone obviously in bad faith.

ahhh yes, then routine retort of one without evidence... it would seem the one operating in bad faith is you, as always.

The only reason Bill Cosby is in jail is due to him having over 40 claims against him. In lieu of evidence, strong testimony is accepted. If testimony or claims didn't matter, they wouldn't be fucking heard in court. And I'm the person who's supposed to educate myself?

Reminder: the show being shit isn't an excuse for government intervention. I hate Jimmy Kimmel, but I hate 1st amendment violations much more, and I wouldn't want his show to get shut down due to Trump either.

Yes, you are the one who should educate yourself, because:

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Please note that part where Cosby's own ADMISSION OF GUILT was used as foundational evidence against him, and thus a pattern of behavior was established.
 
ahhh yes, then routine retort of one without evidence... as literally always... it would seem the one operating in bad faith, is you, as always.



Yes, you are the one who should educate yourself, because:

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https://originality.ai/blog/worst-google-ai-responses

Use actual sources for your evidence. Telling someone to educate themselves while you use Google AI is just ironic. AI is not actual intelligence. It's basically this generation's autocorrect. A lot of the time, it spits out the wrong thing, and unless you actually look into what it says, how will you know if it's right or wrong? How does one get educated without doing actual research?
 
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https://originality.ai/blog/worst-google-ai-responses

Use actual sources for your evidence. Telling someone to educate themselves while you use Google AI is just ironic. AI is not actual intelligence. It's basically this generation's autocorrect. A lot of the time, it spits out the wrong thing, and unless you actually look into what it says, how will you know if it's right or wrong? How does one get educated without doing actual research?

So, the derived summary of the evidence used in the court isn't sufficient... for you...
Thankfully, reality doesn't care what you find sufficient; perhaps you should acquaint yourself with reality sometime.

Translation: you don't like that your buddy just got his teeth kicked down his throat, so now you have to try and attack the boot that did the kicking.
By all means, disprove the evidence summary as presented, then, it's of course already been litigated in a court of law, but sure, show us your bona fides in refuting them.

Meanwhile, Cosby's admission of guilt, explicitly mentioned, is again the foundation upon which the entirety of his conviction was built, so please do somehow dispel that.

Until such time, Blaze just got slapped down like a petulant child, you're merely running up screeching "NUH UH!" without even one iota of refutation of any kind other than effectively trying to claim that because Google summarized the evidence, it now "doesn't count".

The only "evidence" either of you two has presented thus far is that you're very good at being very wrong...
 
So, the derived summary of the evidence used in the court isn't sufficient... for you...
Thankfully, reality doesn't care what you find sufficient; perhaps you should acquaint yourself with reality sometime.

Translation: you don't like that your buddy just got his teeth kicked down his throat, so now you have to try and attack the boot that did the kicking.
By all means, disprove the evidence summary as presented, then, it's of course already been litigated in a court of law, but sure, show us your bona fides in refuting them.

Meanwhile, Cosby's admission of guilt, explicitly mentioned, is again the foundation upon which the entirety of his conviction was built, so please do somehow dispel that.

Until such time, Blaze just got slapped down like a petulant child, you're merely running up screeching "NUH UH!" without even one iota of refutation of any kind other than effectively trying to claim that because Google summarized the evidence, it now "doesn't count".

The only "evidence" either of you two has presented thus far is that you're very good at being very wrong...

At what point are you going to realize that I didn't specifically say you were wrong and they were right?
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What I was pushing is how AI isn't always trusting on information, and it spits that out quite clearly. Let's look at what it says about that:

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What we have here is one true answer. That Google AI is not reliable. You can either accept what it says, or not. By accepting what it says here, you agree with Google AI that it is unreliable. By not accepting what it says here, you have made your own determination that it is unreliable.

It is not always wrong, but it is not always right either. Now, one can take from the sources it pulled from and make sure that information is accurate, like how one should take sources from Wikipedia rather than use Wikipedia as a source. Folks making the Wiki entries have been known to get things wrong from time to time, and in various ways, like in interpretation.
 
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ahhh yes, then routine retort of one without evidence... it would seem the one operating in bad faith is you, as always.



Yes, you are the one who should educate yourself, because:

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Please note that part where Cosby's own ADMISSION OF GUILT was used as foundational evidence against him, and thus a pattern of behavior was established.
Way to prove my point. When you googled evidence, everything AI spat out at you was..........testimony. It's almost like testimony and claims are evidence!

Yes, Cosby's admission was foundational, but:
A) It was brought up AFTER years and years of women filing claims. If those claims didn't happen, that foundational evidence would never have come up again and he'd still be selling pudding pops.
B) Cosby testifying that he drugged women is still fucking testimony.
 
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Late Night shows have been god awful since the end of the "I'm with Coco" movement ended. Early to mid 2000's Late Night was really good, imo.
 
It is not always wrong, but it is not always right either. Now, one can take from the sources it pulled from and make sure that information is accurate, like how one should take sources from Wikipedia rather than use Wikipedia as a source. Folks making the Wiki entries have been known to get things wrong from time to time, and in various ways, like in interpretation.
So, how do you know whether or not he checked the sources, or if he had preexisting knowledge?
Is there anything in particular that was wrong? (I didn't read it, obviously)

Way to prove my point. When you googled evidence, everything AI spat out at you was..........testimony. It's almost like testimony and claims are evidence!

Yes, Cosby's admission was foundational, but:
A) It was brought up AFTER years and years of women filing claims. If those claims didn't happen, that foundational evidence would never have come up again and he'd still be selling pudding pops.
B) Cosby testifying that he drugged women is still ****ing testimony.
I think you should put some more effort into understanding what people are trying to say, and also into explaining what you think in more detail. I think it should be clear that what he meant is that "the multiple people who worked on the Late Show and who are close to Colbert who've come forward saying that Colbert's cancellation was due to the merger" saying these things should not be considered evidence. I think the reason why your mention of testimony is being rejected is because it only states their judgement (but not their reasoning) and especially because they were close to Colbert, which could suggest bias in their judgement. Because of this, I think you would be more convincing if you elaborated on details that these people provided to support their claims. For example, maybe there were specific events that they noticed that were unusual.

also, from google's AI overview:
"Testimony not given in court can sometimes be treated as evidence, but it depends on the specific circumstances and whether it falls under established exceptions to the hearsay rule. Generally, statements made outside of court are considered hearsay and are not admissible in court to prove the truth of the matter asserted. However, there are exceptions to this rule, and former testimony, meaning testimony given in a prior legal proceeding, can be admissible under certain conditions"
 
I think the reason why your mention of testimony is being rejected is because it only states their judgement (but not their reasoning) and especially because they were close to Colbert, which could suggest bias in their judgement. Because of this, I think you would be more convincing if you elaborated on details that these people provided to support their claims. For example, maybe there were specific events that they noticed that were unusual.
Sure, I'll give you that I could've posted their reasoning. I'll post that below. However, I have no desire to humor kiaghi7 and pretend to be civil or courteous towards his argument considering he's an openly racist, sexist, transphobic, genocidal psychopath. who's too much of a spineless fucking coward to say on GBAtemp the same kind of garbage he spouts on Twitter because he knows he'd get banned in a heartbeat if he did. You'll forgive me if I don't give half a shit what he thinks about anything said in this thread. So this is posted for your benefit, not his.

Here's the WGA calling for an official legal investigation into Paramount so that Paramount can say, under oath and under penalty of law, that the reasoning for cancellation was not the result of a bribe, as its members (made up of industry veterans who've worked for Paramount before) are in collective agreement that there's a conspiracy. Then there's Stephen himself, who pointed out that all of the information claiming the show was failing in ratings was only due to unsourced Anonymous leaks, and he asserts the show is actually #1 in Late Night ratings, which is actually true according to actual data we have. The show still pulls 2.5 million viewers a night, is leading in its timeslot across all networks, and just won its ninth Emmy. When you take its timeslot and genre into consideration, The Late Show is actually doing pretty goddamn well. Then there's Jon, who pointed out that cancelling the entire show after it's been on the air for over 30 years (40 years if you count the NBC run) instead of retooling it or firing Stephen specifically does not make sense even as a business move and it simply isn't how CBS/Paramount operates.

And then there's an Anonymous statement to CNN, supposedly from a close personal friend of Colbert, who said that the show being cancelled was a casualty of the merger (I know that sounds hypocritical considering I just pointed out the shadiness of "anonymous leaks" earlier, but we know that one is factually incorrect, unlike this, and that this is posted to CNN, an actual fucking news organization with actual news standards, versus New York Post, which is a fucking tabloid).

The smoking gun, however, comes from Snopes's investigation into the conspiracy, where they point out that in Matthew Belloni's report on The Late Show and CBS's financial woes, while the show was indeed costing CBS quite a bit of money and not pulling in sufficient ad revenue, top executives refused to ask key talent to take pay cuts, fire anyone, or cut the show's budget (you know, things you normally do in this situation) and simply cancelled it outright without any warning or consideration post-merger and even Belloni is suspicious. While cost was indeed a factor in the show's cancellation, it simply cannot be the only factor at play here. And if The Daily Show gets axed, that will be irrefutable proof that economics were just a scapegoat.

Keep in mind that when The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore got cancelled in 2016, there were no accusations of conspiracy from literally anybody. Nobody was saying CBS hates black people or whatever, because it was clear that it simply failed in the ratings and was cancelled for the same equal reasons as any other show. This is different and everyone knows it.
if josh's youtube channel is any indicator, he's the next big thing
nobody's really ready to be a host, of course, but josh is so talented
i'm expecting a breath of fresh air akin to when john oliver ran the daily show for a week back in the day
He killed it!
 
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