ICE starting to detain political enemies

[Moe87]

It is bad deal to do flame war and label someone, so there is no need to label.

Label someone isn't going to help your case.

 

[BeniBel]

I'm not surprised about Kamala lost the election and it was expected to see Biden loses the election for second term presidency for first time since Jimmy Carter lost the election in 1980. It was too little, too late and most voters who had problem with Biden, started to tie Kamala with Biden.

Voter turnout for democrats are down because of upset with Biden over Israel-Gaza conflict.

Some of them are related to economic like Nevada got hit hard by inflation and life in Las Vegas is already hard. Voters either voted for Trump or stayed at home. Jacky Rosen won the senate race and Trump won the presidential race.

Election in 2028 and 2032 are very unpredictable and it would depends on multiple factors. I don't think that realignment is going to happen but voters have their different priorities, so independents are on fence, either tilt to R or D.

Honestly, I don't think anyone really saw her winning. Even the polls weren't really in her favor.

If we're serious, I think democrats need to find that middle ground again. A lot of people felt like they weren't getting heared by the current administration.

 

[Moe87]

Honestly, I don't think anyone really saw her winning. Even the polls weren't really in her favor.

If we're serious, I think democrats need to find that middle ground again. A lot of people felt like they weren't getting heared by the current administration.

Also, progressives dominated the Democratic Party and voters who want middle ground has hard time to pick one.

It is hard to find moderate republicans, let alone, moderate democrats.

 

[lolcatzuru]

But the Nazi comparisons are still hyperbole

for the senator? nah i dont think so!

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Honestly, I don't think anyone really saw her winning. Even the polls weren't really in her favor.

If we're serious, I think democrats need to find that middle ground again. A lot of people felt like they weren't getting heared by the current administration.

this is a very hot/ unwelcome take to the radicals i imagine.

 

[SeltzerMist]

It is bad deal to do flame war and label someone, so there is no need to label.

Label someone isn't going to help your case.

I've used it correctly in this particular instance.

 

[lolcatzuru]

I've used it correctly in this particular instance.

i mean, nah.

 

[Moe87]

I've used it correctly in this particular instance.

Ok, that is up to you and I don't think that would help to deescalate the situation.

I wouldn't resort to do it by myself, exception of playing with one member because I perceive his post as joke.

I labelled really a lot when I was teen and young adult, but it wasn't good experience nor habit to me. It did caused my reputation to be tainted within certain member group.

Also, you have a lot of backing in here but in deaf forum, there is little to no backing.

 

[FluffyLunamoth]

I do understand about frustration with immigrant's rights organizations but you cannot impede their ICE operation and they will intensifying their operation, and DA could ask the judge for you to be sentenced to years in federal prison.

HAHAHAHA No. We will continue to impede them, and the impediments will continue increasing until ICE is outlawed and torn down like the Gestapo before them. You can go fuck yourself, and I don't care if saying this gets me banned for a while.

WE THE PEOPLE give them power, and WE THE MOTHER FUCKING PEOPLE can and WILL take it back.

 

[SeltzerMist]

I perceive his post as joke.

I mean that's certainly possible where it's a case of pretending to be stupid which then, congratulations fooled me!

Alternatively, if someone is eating shit for the LOLs, their breath still smells like shit and no one wants to be around that regardless of the reason.

 

[Moe87]

HAHAHAHA No. We will continue to impede them, and the impediments will continue increasing until ICE is outlawed and torn down like the Gestapo before them. You can go fuck yourself, and I don't care if saying this gets me banned for a while.

WE THE PEOPLE give them power, and WE THE MOTHER FUCKING PEOPLE can and WILL take it back.

If you don't mind to be confined at federal prison and has felony conviction, so go ahead. That is going to ruin your life.

I don't advocate anyone to impede the federal action but rather to focus on election to vote republicans out, so you are hurting the Democratic Party further if you believe that violence and impede is best solution.

There is no need to cuss at me and I'm on side with liberals, but don't believe in violence.

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I mean that's certainly possible where it's a case of pretending to be stupid which then, congratulations fooled me!

Alternatively, if someone is eating shit for the LOLs, their breath still smells like shit and no one wants to be around that regardless of the reason.

I referred as Purple_Shyguy's post and his post serve no purpose but troll everyone, or chose to be ignorant on purpose like you said in other thread.

 

[BeniBel]

I always respond on the level of the topic. If one comes with good arguments, I'll gladly have a good discussion.

However, some users here make the most insane claims, like how half of the US are Nazi's... Or yell how certain democratic elected leaders should be murdered... All while bringing pseudo facts to the table, at best, and bullying everyone who doesn't agree with their insane views...

Yeah, no use in even trying to debate that. All you can do, is tell them exactly what they are, and hope someday they actually use all the time posting here, for something useful.

 

[SeltzerMist]

insane claims, like how half of the US are Nazi's...

No one here actually said this

 

[BeniBel]

Nah you're right, I'm wrong. you called over half of the voters rapist simps, much, much better

 

[Moe87]

I know some deaf people previously and currently serving in federal prison and it is definitely not a place that you want to end up, so it was very miserable place and federal DA can overcharge you with multiple charges that land you in decade or more at federal prison.

@FluffyLunamoth My post is just advice and you are free to ignore my advice, so it is your decision. I think it is easier to move to toss-up state and democrats need your vote to help win the election.

Fortunately, you got free to say on internet.

 

[Reualed]

And fyi, 226 vs 312 is a land slide victory. Especially since she won 0 battleground states...

Oh boy. This statement is a can of worms.

Tl;dr
There is a chance (I really hope it isn't the case)
that Trump stole the election.
Evidence:
A. No president ever in the last 20 years won all swing states.
B. In New York, there is a very bizarre case where people who voted Democrat, didn't somehow vote for the president, as in, they voted D across down the ballot, even including the intent to vote for Harris. But the ticket didn't come out like that with the voting machines. This has moved to court.
C. (this is a grain of salt. Anyone can claim they are anonymous) but basically anonymous claimed that Elon Musk helped steal the election
D. Trump's really weird statement about how people would never have to vote again and "Blue states will fall off the map"

I'm hoping that this isn't true, because, well, it's an entirely unfun bag of worms when you consider the consequences. (also getting the accusation wrong is not great)

 

[BeniBel]

Oh boy. This statement is a can of worms.

Tl;dr
There is a chance (I really hope it isn't the case)
that Trump stole the election.
Evidence:
A. No president ever in the last 20 years won all swing states.
B. In New York, there is a very bizarre case where people who voted Democrat, didn't somehow vote for the president, as in, they voted D across down the ballot, even including the intent to vote for Harris. But the ticket didn't come out like that with the voting machines. This has moved to court.
C. (this is a grain of salt. Anyone can claim they are anonymous) but basically anonymous claimed that Elon Musk helped steal the election
D. Trump's really weird statement about how people would never have to vote again and "Blue states will fall off the map"

I'm hoping that this isn't true, because, well, it's an entirely unfun bag of worms when you consider the consequences. (also getting the accusation wrong is not great)

Remember how democrats laughed when people claimed the 2020 election was stolen? Heck, even most of the claims you make here, are the exact same some used in 2020... This is beyond coping.

You know why kamala was the worst democratic candidate in modern history? Because she was just darn aweful. She didn't connect to the people, didn't address the issues people cared about, and she never came off as stable.

Honestly, if democrats ever want to be in power again, they need to engage into some introspection, and start admitting they have made a lot of mistakes in the last decade. They need to stop making excuses and blaming everyone else.

 

[Reualed]

Remember how democrats laughed when people claimed the 2020 election was stolen? Heck, even most of the claims you make here, are the exact same some used in 2020... This is beyond coping.

I said a chance, for a reason.

Unlike MAGA who day 1 was claiming it was stolen, and had a fit over it and thoroughly believed they were right.

(which idk about you. But if your guy wins again, maybe the election wasn't compromised. Just saying)

Literally, my first reaction to the election was to accept it. It's only evidence afterwords, that has started to make me second guess that. I didn't go tell you

"TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION, LET'S ALL BE THERE AT THE CAPITAL"

So if you mind, keep your projection a little closer to yourself.

 

[BeniBel]

I said a chance, for a reason.

Unlike MAGA who day 1 was claiming it was stolen, and had a fit over it and thoroughly believed they were right.

(which idk about you. But if your guy wins again, maybe the election wasn't compromised. Just saying)

Literally, my first reaction to the election was to accept it. It's only evidence afterwords, that has started to make me second guess that. I didn't go tell you

"TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION, LET'S ALL BE THERE AT THE CAPITAL"

So if you mind, keep your projection a little closer to yourself.

But you mention it, so you do value it enough to mention it, and even providing points as to why it could be possible.

Introspection is key. Don't look for excuses, but find out what needs to change within the democratic party.

 

[Moe87]

You know why kamala was the worst democratic candidate in modern history? Because she was just darn aweful. She didn't connect to the people, didn't address the issues people cared about, and she never came off as stable.

As left-leaning independent that voted democrats since 2006 and supported many progressive policies (centrist with immigration and fiscal policies), I admitted that your statement is true and I found Biden's leadership to be very poor, so Kamala isn't much better either. Have bad leadership could hurt their reelection and hurt other candidates of same party as well.

That left me with bad options for candidates, however Alabama is ruby state and Trump won easily. Back in 1990, Alabama was heavily moderate and conservative democrats before political realignment started in 1994. I do believe that Kamala supporters are more angry at voters who living in toss-up states like Georgia.

I don't believe in obstruction and I do think both parties in the Congress need to work together, so I know that isn't some good policies. Show the leadership and get job done to solve the problems.

 

[Reualed]

But you mention it, so you do value it enough to mention it, and even providing points as to why it could be possible.

And? I even bring up some counter evidence to the contrary. You can present something without fully believing it.
I even stated prior, that I'd rather believe that it wasn't the case, since it just creates a headache.

Introspection is key. Don't look for excuses, but find out what needs to change within the democratic party.

The democratic party as is right now, with it's current leadership. I don't see it changing, and I don't see it surviving. They made it pretty clear who they are, and who they are willing to sacrifice.