When will the Switch 2 be unveiled?

[64bitmodels]

If they can't build an OS or at least a plugin that allows for basic themes without compromising the security of the system wholesale, then they need to be hiring fewer lawyers and more software engineers.

Besides, that absolutely should not be their top priority, all their best-selling systems have been easy to exploit/emulate. Presentation allows you to differentiate yourself from the competition, and people loved stuff like the Wii home menu. As-is, both the PS5 and certainly the Steam Deck have far superior interfaces.

The PS5 doesn't have much in the way of aesthetics and the Steam Deck's interface is only really customizable insofar as you install CSS Loader (not made by valve) to customize it- which just makes it similar to the Switch in that customization is only possible through third party means. Official customization isn't real on the Deck outside of those digital keyboards and start up animations.

Also, comparing the Switch to those other 2 is unfair. The PS5 has hardly been jailbroken to the extent the Switch has, and you don't need to jailbreak a Linux PC- if anything you need to Jailkeep it as it's super easy to break a Linux system if you mess around with the wrong files.

also, feels a bit weird to say "all the best selling systems are easily hackable" as an argument against the 140m+ selling Switch.

Post automatically merged: Dec 28, 2024

anyways, we can cross off December now, right?

 

[Xzi]

Also, comparing the Switch to those other 2 is unfair.

No, it would be unfair to lower the bar specifically for Nintendo. Especially since they've already proven they're capable of producing better than Switch's UI. The eShop is a whole other can of ugly worms that desperately needs an overhaul, too.

also, feels a bit weird to say "all the best selling systems are easily hackable" as an argument against the 140m+ selling Switch.

Huh? The fact that it went on to become their best-selling console after being exploited within mere months of release supports my argument. In 2017 there was nothing like Switch on the market though, and they got another bump from the pandemic when next-gen consoles were still in short supply. This time around, they'll be competing for attention against not only several similar devices with more power, but also against Switch itself which will become dirt cheap on the used market with so many units out there. If they want to convince people that Switch 2 is worth a premium of double or triple the price, they'll have to differentiate its presentation.

 

[64bitmodels]

Huh? The fact that it went on to become their best-selling console after being exploited within mere months of release supports my argument.

it was also a mere months after release that the only softmod exploit for the device got patched. and it's easy to wager that 99% of Switches are unhacked or jailbroken.

Jailbreaking consoles ensures their longevity but it doesn't guarantee sales. Pirates/Homebrewers are not buying brand new consoles off the shelf as those likely have patched versions-unless there's an exploit which works on all versions. All an exploit does is ensure the system will be widely used later on by poorer communities or third world nations. It doesn't guarantee or help sales whatsoever.

I'd wager that popular consoles get exploits because of their popularity rather than consoles recieving exploits and becoming popular because of them.

In 2017 there was nothing like Switch on the market though, and they got another bump from the pandemic when next-gen consoles were still in short supply. This time around, they'll be competing for attention against not only several similar devices with more power, but also against Switch itself which will become dirt cheap on the used market with so many units out there. If they want to convince people that Switch 2 is worth a premium of double or triple the price, they'll have to differentiate its presentation.

Nintendo IPs will carry like usual. Maybe they'll hit 95 or 100 million instead of 140, but they're still gonna be successful.
The competition coming from Valve and the like will have to prove themselves to consumers rather than Nintendo. They've been doing this for years, releasing a new console so long as it isn't a marketing failure will guarantee sales.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

Switch 2 will be reveled with Skyrim 2 next month as a DAY ONE title. Dunkey told me. And that man never lies

 

[Xzi]

I'd wager that popular consoles get exploits because of their popularity rather than consoles recieving exploits and becoming popular because of them.

I don't think exploits/emulation have any affect on sales at all in the long run, certainly the industry has never been able to produce concrete evidence that they do. Which is again why security shouldn't be their priority, it should always be user experience.

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

I don't think exploits/emulation have any affect on sales at all in the long run, certainly the industry has never been able to produce concrete evidence that they do. Which is again why security shouldn't be their priority, it should always be user experience.

Well technically easy exploits tend to lead to a surge in console sales and a drop in software sales due to piracy.

 

[Noctosphere]

To all those who voted "December"

 

[BlusterBong]

Nintendo IPs will carry like usual. Maybe they'll hit 95 or 100 million instead of 140, but they're still gonna be successful.
The competition coming from Valve and the like will have to prove themselves to consumers rather than Nintendo. They've been doing this for years, releasing a new console so long as it isn't a marketing failure will guarantee sales.

I'd also like to point out that Nintendo will also have the benefit of people being able to roll on over to thier local Walmart or Kroger or whatever supermarket thier region has to buy a new console unlike the many Handheld PCs like the Steam Deck where outside some regions like the US, you're still stuck having to buy them directly from Amazon or from the maker of the thing themselves (I.e Buying a Steam Deck directly from Valve, Buying a ROG Ally directly from Asus, ect.) so that alone impacts thier reach vs Switch 2.


And that's not going to impact the fact that in the event someone makes the foolish dissison to make a Switch 2 Emulator without learning from Yuzu's mistakes or learning how not to get paid off like Ryujinx, there will also be the problem that a hacked S2 would probably be able to emulate itself just like the original was, possibly at a better chance to run at 4K without running the battery super fast.

 

[Pup]

I'd also like to point out that Nintendo will also have the benefit of people being able to roll on over to thier local Walmart or Kroger or whatever supermarket thier region has to buy a new console unlike the many Handheld PCs like the Steam Deck where outside some regions like the US, you're still stuck having to buy them directly from Amazon or from the maker of the thing themselves (I.e Buying a Steam Deck directly from Valve, Buying a ROG Ally directly from Asus, ect.) so that alone impacts thier reach vs Switch 2.


And that's not going to impact the fact that in the event someone makes the foolish dissison to make a Switch 2 Emulator without learning from Yuzu's mistakes or learning how not to get paid off like Ryujinx, there will also be the problem that a hacked S2 would probably be able to emulate itself just like the original was, possibly at a better chance to run at 4K without running the battery super fast.

Not trying to argue at all, just throwing in my two cents.

You're assuming that the Switch 2 will be readily available at any convenience. Look at the PS5, extremely hard to buy for the first 1.5 - 2 years, and there are *still* no games aside from ~7ish exclusives. Everything has been ported to PC or other consoles, so the demand isn't NEARLY as bad anymore, nor will it be in the future if Sony continues porting their own games to PC or otherwise.

Not so much for Nintendo. They've never budged and their games remain on their systems. The Switch 2 release is going to be a clusterfuck. My guess is that records will broken day 1 just due to the sheer demand still riding off the high of the Switch.

Apples to oranges on the Steam Deck argument. Most of those that have a Steam Deck know their way around a computer. Yes, it plays your games, but for many it's a tinkering project that can do a variety of things. The Switch is strictly convenience. "Oh, this game was ported over" "Okay, I will buy it and only play it here." This is where the Deck wins IMO (still buying a Switch 2 as much as Nin pisses me off); you buy the game once and play it anywhere. Hell, you don't even need to buy the game. I was late to the OutRun 2006 party (I've had the game since launch, but *never* thought about getting it on Steam before being delisted) and I run a pirated PC copy on my Deck.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah (insert more of my own rambling) blah blah blah blah
see you guys in 2030 playing half life 3 on my switch Dos

 

[CaliousKai]

sorry but the "SWIITCH" i will not be getting even if the cloud cames are day one releases not going to bother as im going retro afterwards as the retro scene has more going for it than getting a boner for graphics or "HOLY SHIT IT RUNS THIS!"

 

[Cranesbill]

Okay let's hope for the best for this Month.

 

[BigOnYa]

I predict a Jan 8 announcement, with a March 28 release date. Mark your calendars now.

 

[bonkmaykr]

Everybody go home. It finally happened.
Somebody leaked it.

 

[kijetesantakalu042]

Everybody go home. It finally happened.
Somebody leaked it.

This smells like a mockup

 

[Cranesbill]

Everybody go home. It finally happened.
Somebody leaked it.

Don't scare me like that, oh my gosh

 

[impeeza]

Everybody go home. It finally happened.
Somebody leaked it.

«Smellovision» and peach showing her armpit!!!!

¿new cartridge?

 

[notsu]

Everybody go home. It finally happened.
Somebody leaked it.

Can't believe Nintendo is pushing the Gamer=likes RGB lighting agenda. Boycotting this one.

 

[SylverReZ]

«Smellovision» and peach showing her armpit!!!!

¿new cartridge?

The Redditors are enjoying this one.

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

Well we are on the month I voted for.

 

[kijetesantakalu042]

Well we are on the month I voted for.

Same