Trump leads Kamala in nearly every swing state [Update: Trump wins the 2024 election]

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Honestly, I am not shocked that Trump supporters are as detached from the current year as Trump is. Trump has literally confused Biden for Obama.

Seriously, it's disturbing that just how much Trump's grip on reality is slipping. Like, Biden was made to step out of the race due to his failing grasp on reality, yet Republicans are going full speed with a dude who goes on dementia rants.


I am 5'4, I think it's ok to disrespect small people, I do it all the time
Trump also confused Biden with Harris, too. :tpi:
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What special election?

A lot can change in a few months, Kamala was on top for a while in all the polls - and now all vanished
Well, we know now that a lot of polls can be paid for and influenced. So, again, polls aren't exactly very reliable sources of info, especially with how much MAGA tries to interfere and Musk doing his utmost best to make Twitter lean heavily more for Trump with more ads (like Polymarket). What matters now are the actual results once election day comes and ends.
 
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So even Elon Musk has now admitted that Trump would tank the economy if re-elected. Polls looking really good in Michigan and Wisconson for Harris, and Trump already throwing a hissy fit over Pennsylvania tells us the internals must be good for her there, too.
 
So even Elon Musk has now admitted that Trump would tank the economy if re-elected. Polls looking really good in Michigan and Wisconson for Harris, and Trump already throwing a hissy fit over Pennsylvania tells us the internals must be good for her there, too.
And if he gets in and tanks the economy, he'll just blame the previous administration.
 
And if he gets in and tanks the economy, he'll just blame the previous administration.
After coasting off the Obama economy himself until COVID hit. He knows his cultists are dumb enough to believe it, but fuck him for thinking the rest of us are that dumb too.
 
Ol' Pappy Biden not doing the Harris campaign any favors the last couple days. Yeah, yeah, he's not the one running for President anymore. But he is, currently, the actual President.

Trump riffin' on Biden's "The only garbage I see are his supporters" gaffe.

Which is just stupid, cuz c'mon. Everyone knows Trump isn't really a garbageman, and this is just staged.
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And for a chaser, Biden bites a baby.
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Ol' Pappy Biden not doing the Harris campaign any favors the last couple days. Yeah, yeah, he's not the one running for President anymore. But he is, currently, the actual President.
Trumpers made "fuck Joe Biden" their primary slogan for at least three years, but he says "fuck you too, then" and you get all up in your feelings about it? Gimme a break. Dark Brandon is best Brandon, and he hit the nail on the head with his Uno reverse of Republicans' hateful/racist "joke."

And for a chaser, Biden bites a baby.
Looks more like kissing, or perhaps more like a nothingburger.
 
Looks more like kissing, or perhaps more like a nothingburger.

Ok, open mouth deep kissing a baby. On the leg. Yeah, that's better.

You are one humorless stick when it comes to this shit, you know. Constant damage control, spin, and vitriol. Loosen up a little ffs.
 
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Ol' Pappy Biden not doing the Harris campaign any favors the last couple days. Yeah, yeah, he's not the one running for President anymore. But he is, currently, the actual President.

Trump riffin' on Biden's "The only garbage I see are his supporters" gaffe.

Which is just stupid, cuz c'mon. Everyone knows Trump isn't really a garbageman, and this is just staged.
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And for a chaser, Biden bites a baby.
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I'm happy to see Trump settling into his new life, you know, garbage truck driver is a first job for many people after their first felony conviction

It can be hard to land a job with a criminal record
 
It's over kamalacats, time to look into Canadian residency permits
Ugh, it is 2004 presidential election again and it is ridiculous to tell democrats voters to move to Canada if republican won the election.

It is hard to immigrate in Canada and vast majority of democrat voters stay in the US, so they will continue to fight against Trump.

If Trump win the election, so it don't affect me very much because I don't work for government or run the position to handle with election that is at crosshair to Trump, also I'm not protester on street that could face the federal official. Like previous presidents like Bush, Obama and soon to be Biden, Trump has to deal with political constraint that where court block or derail many of his agendas, and if some of his agendas are executed, so he could face the consequence like slow economic, high inflation because of deport too many illegal immigrants or put too much tariff on imported stuffs, so with labor shortage, the US depends on immigrants to run the labor, including illegals.

Wisconsin is actually becoming redder, it only voted Republican three times since 1976
There is one problem - democrats lost many of rural voters and it make Wisconsin slightly more red than last 2-3 decades ago, so today, Wisconsin is just rural vs. city to make a swing, also their election is unpredictable.

Democrats no longer win in North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia (soon), Missouri, Louisiana and possibly Montana because of political realignment.

Ron Johnson is a bit of an anomaly, and we're still a swing state. His opponent also ran a terrible campaign.
Yeah, having a good campaign is crucial in swing states.

Ron Johnson won very closer election.

More and more baby boomers are retire and they move to warmer states, so it help to increase the blue in Wisconsin that help with democrats in closest election.

Our legislature also changed after Roe vs Wade was overturned, and we've had a Democrat governor since 2019. Wisconsin was pretty red for about a decade prior, until after Trump won and the events that followed with his presidency.

I've also only recently been getting a lot of cold calls from unknown numbers and the transcribing reveals they're pollers looking for info on who I'm voting for.

I don't answer unknown numbers unless I'm expecting a call, and cold calling landlines and cellphones are still the primary method of gathering this data.

The method is flawed.
Better to ignore the call. As deaf, I don't rely to call at all.

I don't trust the polls, even aggregate and some of polls are in poor quality or have same responses. There are a lot of silent voters and they can tip in closest election.

Polls in the US sucks, but it is superior in other countries like UK.
 
Ugh, it is 2004 presidential election again and it is ridiculous to tell democrats voters to move to Canada if republican won the election.

It is hard to immigrate in Canada and vast majority of democrat voters stay in the US, so they will continue to fight against Trump.

If Trump win the election, so it don't affect me very much because I don't work for government or run the position to handle with election that is at crosshair to Trump, also I'm not protester on street that could face the federal official. Like previous presidents like Bush, Obama and soon to be Biden, Trump has to deal with political constraint that where court block or derail many of his agendas, and if some of his agendas are executed, so he could face the consequence like slow economic, high inflation because of deport too many illegal immigrants or put too much tariff on imported stuffs, so with labor shortage, the US depends on immigrants to run the labor, including illegals.


There is one problem - democrats lost many of rural voters and it make Wisconsin slightly more red than last 2-3 decades ago, so today, Wisconsin is just rural vs. city to make a swing, also their election is unpredictable.

Democrats no longer win in North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia (soon), Missouri, Louisiana and possibly Montana because of political realignment.


Yeah, having a good campaign is crucial in swing states.

Ron Johnson won very closer election.

More and more baby boomers are retire and they move to warmer states, so it help to increase the blue in Wisconsin that help with democrats in closest election.


Better to ignore the call. As deaf, I don't rely to call at all.

I don't trust the polls, even aggregate and some of polls are in poor quality or have same responses. There are a lot of silent voters and they can tip in closest election.

Polls in the US sucks, but it is superior in other countries like UK.
The moving to Canada thing is a joke based on the fact people always bring it up as an option if their guy loses - when - as you pointed out - it's gonna be nearly impossible for most to do that legally in any reasonable time frame

Regarding Wisconsin becoming more Republican, all you have to do is look at the 2022 congressional elections and see 55 R, 40 D to see that a 15 point lead is pretty significant
 
Regarding Wisconsin becoming more Republican
At federal level, Wisconsin is seen as swing state.

2022 congressional elections
It is bad comparison for gerrymandered house districts, so if gerrymandered is eliminated, it could be 4-4 if election is big in democrat's favor.

Ron Johnson won by 26,718 in 2022 senate election, so it was 105,091 in 2010 election and 99,136 in 2016 election.

see 55 R, 40 D to see that a 15 point lead is pretty significant
There is modest gerrymandered districts in statehouses, so just less gerrymandered than before but it don't eliminate it completely.

If gerrymander is out of picture, so Wisconsin would be similar to PA that where GOP has some lead and fluctuate from election to election.

Wisconsin is no Alabama, so if gerrymander is out, Alabama will be still solid GOP state.
 
At federal level, Wisconsin is seen as swing state.


It is bad comparison for gerrymandered house districts, so if gerrymandered is eliminated, it could be 4-4 if election is big in democrat's favor.

Ron Johnson won by 26,718 in 2022 senate election, so it was 105,091 in 2010 election and 99,136 in 2016 election.


There is modest gerrymandered districts in statehouses, so just less gerrymandered than before but it don't eliminate it completely.

If gerrymander is out of picture, so Wisconsin would be similar to PA that where GOP has some lead and fluctuate from election to election.

Wisconsin is no Alabama, so if gerrymander is out, Alabama will be still solid GOP state.
Gerrymandering doesn't affect that literally 55% to 40% vote split - take 100 voters in the entire state, and only 40 voted D

The only reason it's a swing state this election is Trump is extremely unlikeable and polarizing
 
Gerrymandering doesn't affect that literally 55% to 40% vote split - take 100 voters in the entire state, and only 40 voted D
I have don't understand about what are you try to say about no gerrymander in Wisconsin.

I said that new house maps don't eliminate the gerrymander entirely, so democrat governor and republican statehouse agreed and settled with new map that reduce the GOP significantly, also republican admitted that they drew the map that is friendly to GOP.

With new map, Wisconsin will have 53-46 in the house and 17-15 in the senate.

https://www.propublica.org/article/new-wisconsin-district-map-gop-gerrymander-elections
 
I have don't understand about what are you try to say about no gerrymander in Wisconsin.

I said that new house maps don't eliminate the gerrymander entirely, so democrat governor and republican statehouse agreed and settled with new map that reduce the GOP significantly, also republican admitted that they drew the map that is friendly to GOP.

With new map, Wisconsin will have 53-46 in the house and 17-15 in the senate.

https://www.propublica.org/article/new-wisconsin-district-map-gop-gerrymander-elections
my meaning is the number of seats that was won was skewed due to gerrymandering - BUT that has nothing to do with my point whatsoever

My point is - ONLY 40% voted democrat and 55% voted republican, and that shows the people in that election favored R by 15 points
 
my meaning is the number of seats that was won was skewed due to gerrymandering - BUT that has nothing to do with my point whatsoever

My point is - ONLY 40% voted democrat and 55% voted republican, and that shows the people in that election favored R by 15 points
Ok, Wisconsin experienced political realignment that where many rural voters end up fixed vote for GOP after they supported democrats for many years.

Democrats abandoned most of rural areas nowadays.
 

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