Flash cart for the Switch incoming?

[mrdude]

They said they didn’t include a button because it would be too fragile at the small size so they wanted to rely on nintendos more robust cart ejection spring thing

That's why they should have used a capacitive touch sensor as there's no moving parts to wear out.

 

[Ondrashek06]

I wonder if it will also be able to load HorizonOS payloads for updates... maybe it'll finally be a way to install homebrew to patched units on HorizonOS below 4.1.0, as the only hack is for 4.1.0 and the official way to update would flash 17.0.1.

 

[Draxzelex]

I wonder if it will also be able to load HorizonOS payloads for updates... maybe it'll finally be a way to install homebrew to patched units on HorizonOS below 4.1.0, as the only hack is for 4.1.0 and the official way to update would flash 17.0.1.

All this does is emulate game cartridges. Nothing more, nothing less. We already have a way to install homeberew on patched units below 4.1 as well.

 

[JonJaded]

If the box is small, how big is this dumper supposed to be anyway. I kind of think it might not work exactly as advertised anyway. They should have really showed a picture. When I say that it might not work as advertised is because I’m thinking about my m3i for the ds, I misplaced that flash cart somewhere but that update piece it came with broke so unless I missed something about it, I had no way to update it, this thing hopefully isn’t going to be cheaply made.

It doesn't need to be big at all, so long they use a sort of a flex extention like the product I linked earlier. It just needs to have the correct pinout and bandwidth.

From there, once extended the dumper can be as big as it wants. I'd imagine it has some sort passthrough that dumps the card data to a microsd slot or a straight up USB connection directly to a computer.

View attachment 313376

Source: https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Gamecard

 

[madisonswitch]

That's why they should have used a capacitive touch sensor as there's no moving parts to wear out.

Those are unreliable AF. I hate devices that use them. I'll take a mechanical button any day. This is why you'll never see capacitive touch sensor buttons on game controllers.

 

[WiseDan]

ordered one piece

 

[TheStonedModder]

ordered one pieceView attachment 412403

Why attach a stock image though? Lol

 

[WiseDan]

Why attach a stock image though? Lol

because i can!

 

[linuxares]

I wonder if it will also be able to load HorizonOS payloads for updates... maybe it'll finally be a way to install homebrew to patched units on HorizonOS below 4.1.0, as the only hack is for 4.1.0 and the official way to update would flash 17.0.1.

what no? It's not that kind of chip.

If you're blow 4.1.0 there is other methods like Pegrascape.

 

[Rahkeesh]

That's pretty gullible thinking to say the least.
You think they will keep quiet and let this unfold without setting examples of people? There's no doubt they will ban every individual that break theirs TOS including these people sharing their cart dumps. You bought second-hand from a bozo that dumped and kept these copies, that's your problem not theirs.

Regarding online , most people like to keep their consoles sanitized in case they want to resell as banned console aren't wanted. Sure pirates don't care if they got banned or not but these people are not the target.

That would instantly vaporize faith in buying used anything, diminishing legit consumer's ability to resell as well, which degrades the whole point of physical releases. Its not going to be acceptable to consumers if putting a legit cart from gamestop into a legit system earns you a permanent console ban and cuts you off from your digital purchases. That would be a huge PR blunder and news fiasco even to people who weren't directly affected, because it could hit anyone buying a used game from anywhere other than a close friend.

What might happen is Nintendo blacklists a specific cart cert that has been duplicated, preventing you from running that game. Still a risk buying used since it might not work, but not one that will practically brick your system. Even then I doubt they are going to do this for people who make a personal backup and sell leading to a handful of duplicates out there, its those racking up the hundreds and thousands of duplicates from being shared online that would put a cert on the blacklist, and that at least makes sense if you are stopping that many people from pirating a copy at the cost of one dud cart.

Long term I bet Nintendo figures out how to detect the MIG directly anyway. Sky3DS didn't last forever, TX historically are only in to make a quick buck before things get tough.

 

[Hassal]

That would instantly vaporize faith in buying used anything, diminishing legit consumer's ability to resell as well, which degrades the whole point of physical releases. Its not going to be acceptable to consumers if putting a legit cart from gamestop into a legit system earns you a permanent console ban and cuts you off from your digital purchases. That would be a huge PR blunder and news fiasco even to people who weren't directly affected, because it could hit anyone buying a used game from anywhere other than a close friend.

What might happen is Nintendo blacklists a specific cart cert that has been duplicated, preventing you from running that game. Still a risk buying used since it might not work, but not one that will practically brick your system. Even then I doubt they are going to do this for people who make a personal backup and sell leading to a handful of duplicates out there, its those racking up the hundreds and thousands of duplicates from being shared online that would put a cert on the blacklist, and that at least makes sense if you are stopping that many people from pirating a copy at the cost of one dud cart.

Long term I bet Nintendo figures out how to detect the MIG directly anyway. Sky3DS didn't last forever, TX historically are only in to make a quick buck before things get tough.

Not really. This won't be much different than claiming a used voucher. The used market makes no profit for the company so why should they care for a secondary market that adds nothing to their bottom line?

It just becomes your responsibility to make sure with the trader that the carts are not flagged.

 

[dgsousa]

Each physical cartridge has a unique ID, even the same game will have a different ID, and Nintendo has banned specific IDs from ever going online due to ROMs being leaked.

Just out of curiosity: while the cartidges are mass produced, does Nintendo (or whatever publisher) flash the cartridges one by one with games with a different ID each? I confess I find it somewhat impressive, because mass production tend to make 100% identical copies of something

Who records themselves ordering something with a face cam anyway?

Thats so cringy. Whats next recording yourself ordering your meal at McDonald’s ?

He has a Youtube channel with a lot of videos (most of them about modding). It's just normal for him to show up in his videos (or for any youtuber for that matter)

R$597 = 110€ / 120$?
Any info on what the price will be?

That's it. Imported products are heavily taxed in Brazil. That's why he's paying much more than 65$

Not really. This won't be much different than claiming a used voucher. The used market makes no profit for the company so why should they care for a secondary market that adds nothing to their bottom line?

The used market makes no profit for the company, but punishing gamers who buy second hand games can lead to a HUGE backlash. Remember the rumors of XBox One hindering the use of second hand games before its launch? Microsoft's failure to deny the rumors was one of the factors that harmed XONE's chances to follow up the success of X360.

The sole idea of a Gamestop's cart being banned is bad. I don't think Nintendo would like to have a reputation for f***ing the used market

It just becomes your responsibility to make sure with the trader that the carts are not flagged.

You are expecting too much from casual gamers that don't frequent GBATemp.

 

[ccfman2004]

One of the main reasons that each individual cartridge has a unique ID has to do with that you can get Gold Coins for your Nintendo account. Nintendo has to be able to verify if that particular cart has been redeemed or not. Yes while these cartridges are mass produced, the ROM chip still has to be programmed so you can setup your programming routine to use a different valid ID for each ROM chip. It's very trivial do so since they are using a programmable chip rather than optical media which are pressed using a master disc similar to how vinyl records are.

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Hopefully Nintendo won't ban consoles if it sees the same ID on more than one console at any given time as it wouldn't be fair to users who are using a legitimate cartridge. Also our local libraries have Switch games to borrow so banning a legitimate user because someone did a dump and return would not be good.

I remember there was an Xbox 360 user that was able to buy a game early because the store didn't honor the street date and the person got banned for playing the game early. Microsoft did reverse the ban by providing a copy of the store receipt proving he had a legitimate copy of the game.

 

[Draxzelex]

The used market makes no profit for the company, but punishing gamers who buy second hand games can lead to a HUGE backlash. Remember the rumors of XBox One hindering the use of second hand games before its launch? Microsoft's failure to deny the rumors was one of the factors that harmed XONE's chances to follow up the success of X360.

The sole idea of a Gamestop's cart being banned is bad. I don't think Nintendo would like to have a reputation for f***ing the used market

Nintendo already did this when Gateway was popular in the 3DS scene and more than one instance of a header was online. Nintendo also has banned Switch games because of this back when SX OS was prevalent meaning they will likely do it again if people are dumb enough to try it again with the Mig Switch. They have their own error code too.
https://x.com/SciresM/status/1009436235536871424?s=20

 

[ccfman2004]

Nintendo already did this when Gateway was popular in the 3DS scene and more than one instance of a header was online. Nintendo also has banned Switch games because of this back when SX OS was prevalent meaning they will likely do it again if people are dumb enough to try it again with the Mig Switch. They have their own error code too.
https://x.com/SciresM/status/1009436235536871424?s=20

The problem is for people who don't know the game they bought or rented has been dumped. This will cause a whole host of issues for legitimate users. Most users won't ave any clue what's going on.

 

[linuxares]

The problem is for people who don't know the game they bought or rented has been dumped. This will cause a whole host of issues for legitimate users. Most users won't ave any clue what's going on.

Not really. As I said in a previous post. If the same Switch gets flagged over and over again using a duplicate. It's kind of easy to know which Switch is the one they need to ban.

 

[ccfman2004]

Not really. As I said in a previous post. If the same Switch gets flagged over and over again using a duplicate. It's kind of easy to know which Switch is the one they need to ban.

I am talking about the individual cartridge getting banned and an unknowing person buys the game and then can't use it online and they won't understand why.

 

[TheStonedModder]

I am talking about the individual cartridge getting banned and an unknowing person buys the game and then can't use it online and they won't understand why.

Has Nintendo actually “banned” a cartridge? This is the first I’m hearing of this and it seems like an awfully silly and stupid way to handle things. Even by Nintendo standards

 

[SylverReZ]

Has Nintendo actually “banned” a cartridge? This is the first I’m hearing of this and it seems like an awfully silly and stupid way to handle things. Even by Nintendo standards

This was discovered over 6 years ago, and I'm surprised that you haven't heard of this.

 

[linuxares]

Has Nintendo actually “banned” a cartridge? This is the first I’m hearing of this and it seems like an awfully silly and stupid way to handle things. Even by Nintendo standards

Yepp! When people released .xci files with cert and all.