Gaming Homebrew Review 4IFIR / OC Suite - Showcases (performance / power consumption)

[Lamcza]

Krasnystaw is the best kefir bar none, you are correct. Kwaśne mleko? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of that, do you mean maślanka? Surely not. Where can I get this kwaśne mleko?

Dude, it is like a precursor of kefir are you from town :X? You poor creature, you can get some of the "Kwaśne mleko" in markets now. It is not as good but it is kind of simmilar They call it a bit different like "zsiadłe mleko" i guess both terms are kinda correct as far as i know
It looks like this on the shelf, it is not as good as Keffir (in my opinion) because like i said it is more like a precursor of it

"Maślanka" is closer to kefir than "zsiadłe mleko" it is like even softer kefir :X

 

[Foxi4]

This terribly resource-hungry game, on the stock console, judging by the telemetry readings, bottlenecked simultaneously on the processor, memory and GPU.
Just think of any number and name it. You will not lose anything.

I can’t make predictions based on nothing lol, that’s a big problem with how you measure stuff. Handheld vs. Docked also makes a big difference since the Switch is additionally gimped when not in its dock. Without knowing what the stock figures are, what’s causing poor performance and what the game demands more of, I can’t give you an accurate prediction that I’d put cash money on. If I were to make a prediction at the point of a gun I suspect you’ll be able to increase the framerate a bit with no change to the resolution *or* get a modest boost in resolution with no impact on the framerate.

ude, it is like a precursor of kefir are you from town :X? You poor creature, you can get some of the "Kwaśne mleko" in markets now it is not as good but it is kind of simmilar They call it a bit different it is "zsiadłe mleko" i guess both terms are kinda correct
It looks like this on the shelf, it is not as good as Keffir (in my opinion) because like i said it is more like a precursor of it


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Oooooh, zsiadłe mleko, why didn’t you say so? That stuff slaps on some baked potatoes.

I’m Silesian, by the way, though admittedly I haven’t been back home in many years.

 

[linuxares]

Are you guys talking about salty yoghurt now? Like Ayran?

 

[Anxiety_timmy]

From what i've done, if the gpu is running at say 460.8mhz (Max for handheld under stock) at 96.6% (thats the max it ever goes too constant lol), then about 921.6mhz which is the max makes that go to about 66.8-62.4% usage.

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Very dogshit test because its kind of hard to actually get something constant on a switch game but oh well.

 

[Lamcza]

Are you guys talking about salty yoghurt now? Like Ayran?

idk kefri or zsiadle mleko it is like drink made of milk before you can make a white chesse out of it or at least i remember it like that there is no salt or any other thing in it.

 

[linuxares]

idk kefri or zsiadle mleko it is like drink made of milk before you can make a white chesse out of it or at least i remember it like that there is no salt or any other thing in it.

OOoohh... Never tried it so I can't say to much about it then

 

[Lamcza]

OOoohh... Never tried it so I can't say to much about it then

that krasnystaw is like the smoothest sh** you can get in Poland from kefirs i have at least one bottle in my fridge right now in case of emergency ^^ if you find it somewhere give it a chance : D perhaps you have some kefirs there in different names but this one is something else

Sorry @Cooler3D for that offtop but they post my fav kefir

 

[Foxi4]

OOoohh... Never tried it so I can't say to much about it then

“Well yes, but actually, no.”

Zsiadłe mleko translates roughly to soured milk (as I’ve learned today). It’s non-pasteurised and allowed to turn sour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soured_milk

Kefir is fermented using kefir grains, a mix of bacteria and yeast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

Yoghurt is also fermented, but with different bacterial cultures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt

Now a spoiled milk delicacies thread.

 

[Lamcza]

“Well yes, but actually, no.”

Zsiadłe mleko translates roughly to soured milk (as I’ve learned today). It’s non-pasteurised and allowed to turn sour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soured_milk

Kefir is fermented using kefir grains, a mix of bacteria and yeast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

Yoghurt is also fermented, but with bacterial cultures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt

Now a spoiled milk delicacies thread.

Soooooooo how about maślanka?

Can we somehow hide this thread, think i write too much about the power of our sour milk idk if other nations deserve this knowledge or if they are ready to harness it :o I mean except slavs we know our milk ofc.

 

[Foxi4]

Soooooooo how about maślanka

It’s very nice and very more-ish, but I can’t have too much of it - tastes sickly after a while. I will say, it’s an interesting alternative to milk shakes.

 

[Lamcza]

It’s very nice and very more-ish, but I can’t have too much of it - tastes sickly after a while. I will say, it’s an interesting alternative to milk shakes.

i know what it is :X but what is the difference in terms of manufacturing it is it leagal to make this kind of offtop in here i mean i dont wont to get ban

 

[Cooler3D]

If I were to make a prediction at the point of a gun I suspect you’ll be able to increase the framerate a bit with no change to the resolution *or* get a modest boost in resolution with no impact on the framerate.​

Spoiler: The only thing I changed in the configuration is the dynamic resolution threshold. From 0.25 - 0.25 (360p) to

1.00 - 1.00 (720p)
and activated dock mode emulation to increase graphics settings even more.

Spoiler: 720p + 60fps + increased graphics at 7 watt TDP (vs 5 watt at stock)

Pay attention to frequencies. Even from the battery, 4IFIR has a power reserve of 5 watts.

 

[Foxi4]

*Snip*​

You’re right, look at the figures. Game’s clearly GPU-bound, you’re at 94% utilisation at 1229MHz, whereas the CPU sits at 34%. Your CPU is fine and, realistically, you can drop the frequency significantly with no impact to performance (at least in that scene specifically) - you’ll increase your power efficiency. Would be nice to see a screenshot from stock settings at same resolution for the sake of comparison, but otherwise a good result nonetheless.

It’s also worth noting that you’ve indicated that it’s a dynamic resolution title, so it will always chase the target framerate as priority, which kind of makes your life easier if framerate is what you’re chasing.

 

[Cooler3D]

You’re right, look at the figures. Game’s clearly GPU-bound, you’re at 94% utilisation at 1229MHz, whereas the CPU sits at 34%. Your CPU is fine and, realistically, you can drop the frequency significantly with no impact to performance. Would be nice to see a screenshot from stock settings at same resolution for the sake of comparison, but otherwise a good result nonetheless.

Now I will show stock. Give me a few minutes.

 

[Foxi4]

Now I will show stock. Give me a few minutes.

That’s cool. Your big advantage in your test is forcing docked mode - that will automatically give you lots of headroom compared to “Handheld” since the GPU is heavily restricted otherwise. I suspect it’ll be 460MHz-ish (or even less) which explains your boost - you’re running it at 1229MHz. Since the game is designed to chase framerate up to the cap, it’ll lower resolution until it gets there - that’s how you’re getting 720p. Dynamic resolution gains are a bitch to test because you can’t establish a proper baseline.

 

[Detroitguy22]

All I want to know is can you actually get to 2091 cpu on erista

 

[Lamcza]

All I want to know is can you actually get to 2091 cpu on erista

so test it

 

[Foxi4]

All I want to know is can you actually get to 2091 cpu on erista

I would like to see that. It’s a significant increase from the 1785MHz Erista can reach at peak, and an actual overclock beyond the chip’s stock values. 17% out of spec is no small potatoes and conventional overclocking wisdom tells me it’d be rather rough, but mobile chips are pretty weird to be fair.

 

[Cooler3D]

Spoiler: Stock Mode

However, there were difficulties with the stock configuration. The game completely broke when I tried to run it without 4IFIR, with dock emulation and fixed 720p resolution. The displayed frame rate dropped to 12, and the statistics monitor started working like this:

At the same time, in reality, the actual frame rate was even lower. When I tried to restart the statistics monitor, the game froze a couple of times. I managed to take a screenshot and returned the game to its stock state.

Screens below show how it looks and works in stock (or rather, it's even worse in reality, since some of the optimizations from 4IFIR are still active, and to get the full stock experience, it is necessary to reinstall Atmosphere and the bootloader, which I was too lazy to do):

That’s cool. Your big advantage in your test is forcing docked mode - that will automatically give you lots of headroom compared to “Handheld” since the GPU is heavily restricted otherwise. I suspect it’ll be 460MHz-ish (or even less) which explains your boost - you’re running it at 1229MHz. Since the game is designed to chase framerate up to the cap, it’ll lower resolution until it gets there - that’s how you’re getting 720p. Dynamic resolution gains are a bitch to test because you can’t establish a proper baseline.

Sorry for the wall of text, if you don't read it, I won't be offended:

Spoiler: Text Wall

By setting 1.00-1.00, I fixed the minimum and maximum resolution at 720p. Due to double buffering, if the console missed even 1 frame, the frame rate would have been halved. As you can see, it didn't drop, and I could easily raise the GPU frequency higher if needed.

Emulating the dock mode only gave me improved graphics settings that were provided by the developers for the dock mode. Slightly better shadows, draw distance, etc. As for frequencies, on 4IFIR, it doesn't matter whether you play in portable mode or in dock mode, with the battery or the original charger. Frequencies up to CPU 2.4GHz, RAM 2.5GHz, and GPU 1.3GHz are always available to you. On 4IFIR, they fit into 10 watts of average power consumption. The tests above were performed on my Switch Lite, while running on battery power.

Furthermore, when I said that the OC Suite requires almost twice as much electricity at comparable frequencies, while at the same time being more than twice as less performance than 4IFIR, I was not exaggerating or lying. It's not that the OC Suite is somehow broken or contains errors that lead to a decrease in performance or an increase in power consumption. No, it works perfectly correctly. But 4IFIR works differently. You can calculate for yourself how much the performance has increased with a slight increase in power consumption. If you reduce the GPU frequency to 844MHz (and slightly reduce the resolution), 60fps will be available on 4IFIR at stock power consumption, if not lower.

There is no catch or deception here. There is no cheating. Anyone who wants to can see for themselves. Well, they could, if 4IFIR had a thread on GBATemp.

Finally, I was able to show you what I wanted for so long, a clear difference.

All I want to know is can you actually get to 2091 cpu on erista

2.09 GHz is for the weak. ERISTA on 4IFIR is capable of operating at 2.3GHz effective frequency for the CPU.
You would know about it if instead of insulting me, you would try to install what I developed for you for free.

 

[Detroitguy22]

2.09 GHz is for the weak. ERISTA on 4IFIR is capable of operating at 2.3GHz effective frequency for the CPU.
You would know about it if instead of insulting me, you would try to install what I developed for you for free.

Not getting into a back and forth. this is a showcase thread, I'm not gonna bother trying it til I know it works.