GBAtemp Exclusive The Hybrid Era

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Do you only own ONE platform for games this generation?

  1. Yes - I only have either the Nintendo Wii U/Switch, only a PS4, only an Xbox One, or only a PC

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  2. No, I have some mix of the above.

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  1. codezer0

    Member codezer0 Gaming keeps me sane

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    Majority of the exclusives fail to appeal to me. Only game I like enough to play on the system is Rez infinite. But that is something I already played to death on Dreamcast and Xbox 360.

    Lack of bc also means the migration cost is high. Backwards compatibility helped a ton in soothing the bite of adopting a new console. And to tide over game droughts.

    As I said earlier, my experiences have dictated that Sony reliability tanked as soon as they entered the video game market with the PlayStation. I should not have to buy and rebuy consoles to find one that will still work after the 90-day warranty ends. Especially for their asking price. And I should not be required to buy the stupid VR thing, in the name.of actually getting 60 frames per second from the games.

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    How can I play one if nobody has one?

    Also, I did try out a set of secondhand joycon controllers. Those things are way too tiny, and I already thought the n3ds was a bit too small for me.
     


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    how huge are your hands? This is very much a subjective thing and not an objective issue so theres not much point considering it a flaw.
     
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    I can't think of many Nintendo games, or many games in general for that matter, that wouldn't work multiplatform. If there's something that magically prohibits, say, BOTW from running on another console, do tell. Not that it matters, it's a first-party exclusive so I don't have a beef with it, I do think you're a bit enamoured with Nintendo though.
    I don't like participating in list wars, I find them pointless as I'm no fan of exclusives penis measuring contests, but I can indulge you. Bloodborne, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, Uncharted 4, Yakuza 0, The Last of Us Remastered, The Last Guardian, NieR: Automata, World of Final Fantasy, Until Dawn, Dragon Quest Builders, Gravity Rush 2, Ratchet and Clank Nioh and more are either exclusive to Sony platforms, console-exclusive to the PS4 or outright only on PS4, and the list goes on. I would also hate for the PS4 to sacrifice hardware performance for the sake of backwards compatibility - I don't need it, I already have an old console for my old games.
     
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    ...I was expecting your hands to be larger, mine are slightly larger than yours, i find em pretty comfortable, how did you hold them?

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    Erm, nier is on PC. Thats about it though, although switch does have Shin Megami Tensei.
     
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    Which is why I listed the term "console-exclusive". It's not on Xbox, it's not on Switch or the Wii U, so the only console you can play it on is the PS4. Besides, this is just a choice selection off the top of my head, the list goes on.
     
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    Ah i get your point. PS4 is definitely a console with a strong line-up, objectively of course.
     
  8. The Real Jdbye

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    Switch is next gen, not current gen. I own both a Wii U and Switch, but I picked the top option, since the Switch is not current gen.
     
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    Generation is a term referring to the timeframe, not the sequence of systems. Nintendo doesn't get to start a new generation early.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean by that.
    It's the next generation of systems, others will follow. Just because it's the first doesn't make it not next gen.
     
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    That would mean the wii u is last gen.
     
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    It doesn't, you actually put remasters and PS3 games there, which contradict you saying backwards compatibility doesn't make sense. Many big franchises which were once exclusive to PS2 were eventually lost to PC and Xbox. FFXV, MGSV and Tekken 7 instantly come to mind. I would take 1 hour or more listing great PS2 games meanwhile I could list worthy PS4 titles in a minute. I disagree they don't even compare.
     
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    Generation is the most arbitrary bullshit on Earth.
     
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    That's not how generations work. A generation in hardware is a time bracket within which systems are sold, it's not uncommon for a manufacturer to have several systems sold concurrently. Besides, the Switch is neither a home console nor a portable, it's a wholly new category of console hardware, so unless you also want to argue that the Virtual Boy is a successor of the Game Boy and not its own thing, the Switch didn't start a new generation just as it entered its mid-point.
    At present, if Wikipedia is to be trusted, the PS4 has 100 exclusives, 386 console exclusives and 31 timed exclusives, I hope you can talk really fast. As for Metal Gear, are you denying that it was released on the NES, MSX, Game Boy, PC and Gamecube as well? The franchise wasn't explicitly PlayStation-exclusive, it just happened to have a lot of PlayStation releases. Neither was Final Fantasy, for that matter. I listed bestselling exclusives on the platform, why wouldn't I include remasters, because you don't fancy them?
     
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    You may think it's a new type of device, but it's not. It's not entirely a handheld and not entirely a home console, but it's both.
    And for practical purposes, it's actually just a beefy handheld. So it makes the most sense to compare it to other handhelds.
    Anyway, whether it's a home console or a handheld is sort of irrelevant. It's still part of the generational cycle of consoles.
    We both know that the Wii U and the 3DS were part of the same generation, like the Wii and DS were part of the same generation. The Switch is a new generation, which might have new consoles and new handhelds in it, but you can't deny that it's a new generation. It's the next generation after the Wii U and 3DS, which are part of the same generation as the XBoner and PS4. It's clearly next gen. Whether it's different in style from other consoles or not is irrelevant. The DS was wildly different from the PSP, but they were the same generation. Same for the PSVita and 3DS. And still somewhat true for the Wii U and other consoles.
     
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    @Foxi4 What? Do you really consider shovelware like Knack, The Order 1886, Godzilla, and Drawn to Death worthy of mention? Come on, decent PS4 only titles which are not PS3/Vita ports or remasters, because PS2 games sure weren't handheld or PS1 ports/remasters. We're left with 10 games or so.

    Uncharted 4
    Bloodborne
    Nioh
    The Last Guardian
    Yakuza 0
    Gravity Rush 2
    Infamous Second Son

    Is this what you want to compare to PS2?

    Think what you will, PS4 won't ever come close to PS2.
     
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    Yes, I can deny that, because you're factually wrong. The Atari 2600 and 5200 are wildly different and completely incompatible consoles from the same manufacturer and both are considered second generation. Generations are about precipitous steps in technology, not about iterations.
    And the Switch will never be as good as the NES, but I'm not making a huge song and dance about it. I also thoroughly enjoyed The Order, Until Dawn and a number of other exclusives you failed to mention, not that it matters because exclusivity is detrimental to gaming and doesn't make my panties wet - I don't care for or even want to be in some ridiculous treehouse club where only me and my buddies get to play certain games and those games are totally the best, whooptie-doo. Third-party games and first-party exclusives can be equally good, so I don't understand the core concept of your argument. I'm more concerned about having good games in general, first or third-party, and with 2 games worth a damn, both of which are Wii U ports, the Switch situation looks a little bleaker than the PS4's.
     
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    Why do you appear anytime anyone speaks positively about Sony?

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    Think what YOU will the games and numbers speak for themselves. Keep living in your bubble.

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    You are wasting your time with Netovsk he is a notorious Sony hating Nintendo loving troll. The Switch has 2 games worth owning both are Wii u ports. I hope the Switch is successful but right now it doesn't look good but in his world early sales means success somehow.

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    I could throw so many exclusive ps4 games at you it would make your head spin but your not interested in reality, also just cause YOU don't personally like a game although i know you never played them doesn't mean its "shovelware" troll
     
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    I just don't understand what's so important about having games on your platform of choice that nobody else gets to play. The value of that completely eludes me, it's playing right into the hands of corporations who want to upsell their hardware by giving it artificial value. Ideally exclusives shouldn't even exist, in a perfect world everybody would get to play all the games, regardless of which machine they fancied, but of course we can't have that. This is the reason why I don't pick sides - I buy all consoles and I judge them for what they are. The PS4 just happens to be a good piece of technology, I don't understand why someone would get uppity over that - it's well-designed, widely supported and very successful.
     
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    Yeah I'm like a Valve Microsoft Nintendo Sony-but-PS4 fanboy (even though I do own a PS4) and you're the unbiased guy who does nothing but praise PS4 at every chance.
     

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