Hacking System Menu questions/thoughts

[ether2802]

@CIJC: check your .iso's and check if their are not patched to PAL

@WiiCrazy: Well I was wondering if Starfall works on out of region games for ModChip users, and....well....if modchip users use GeckOS for their out of region games, then I think is not that hard to use too (or any launcher), right..??


ps. you do have a ModChip, can you confirm Starfall does works using out of region games..??

 

[nutta_nic]

....well why is it working for me?


I have Rock Band 2, Manhunt 2, and Wii Music (NTSC-U) working from the system menu of my PAL wii with the CIOSCORP + STARFALL set up.....



and i am NOT a modchip user.

the people want preloader myman! its the way forward

 

[CIJC]

@CIJC: check your .iso's and check if their are not patched to PAL

@WiiCrazy: Well I was wondering if Starfall works on out of region games for ModChip users, and....well....if modchip users use GeckOS for their out of region games, then I think is not that hard to use too (or any launcher), right..??


ps. you do have a ModChip, can you confirm Starfall does works using out of region games..??

they are definately not patched to pal... rock band 2 doesn't even open in RegionFrii.

i dont see the point in preloader patches.... when starfall does the same thing.

if there are any cool new 'preloader only' patches, i might just install it.

 

[geedub]

im assuming , that i will also be able to remove the sd card when this is all installed ? so there is no way they can access the HBC and the damage they could cause with that ? and in essence leave it looking like a stock wii again ?

also i can totally understand the reasoning to dumping the nand to sd for backup / restoring ! but isnt it nuked by simply updating like ether has mentioned ? or installing a system wad ? like i said im a noob that does read and i feel i just need more clarification here !.........cheers

Yes you can use the Wii with CIOScorp and the burned games, but only patched to, or same region, as your Wii.
Yes the update thru Wii Settings will left your Wii with the original IOS, if you install a SysMenu.wad the CIOScorp package still be there but the preloader will be gone.
Yes if you take out the SD they can't access to the aplications in it, but they still can access to the HBC and send .dol's thru Wi-Fi (but I doubt they know how to do it

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cheers for the quick reply ......... appreciated !

 

[ether2802]

they are definately not patched to pal... rock band 2 doesn't even open in RegionFrii.
i dont see the point in preloader patches.... when starfall does the same thing.
if there are any cool new 'preloader only' patches, i might just install it.

Well mine doesn't work preloader installed or not, so maybe is just a PAL systems only...!!!

 

[digitydogs]

Thats what i'm thinking ether that maybe the pal starfall patches are the only ones that may actually work.. although you'd think if they did we would have had alot more than 1 or 2 people claim to have it working by now....

 

[dmcbudman]

could the reason NTSC are working on PAL, more than PAL on NTSC is because of the refresh rate
a lot of PAL tvs seems to be able to handle 50hz or 60hz
but almost all NTSC tvs only do 60hz

sorry if im way off base here, as ive yet to even try a PAL game to see what happens.

btw great work on all this so far

-d

 

[digitydogs]

could the reason NTSC are working on PAL, more than PAL on NTSC is because of the refresh rate
a lot of PAL tvs seems to be able to handle 50hz or 60hz
but almost all NTSC tvs only do 60hz

sorry if im way off base here, as ive yet to even try a PAL game to see what happens.

btw great work on all this so far

-d

Unfortunately no as this has no effect on the wii reading the discs. That only applies to loading through the backup channel.

 

[IronMask]

Appreciate the tips Wiicrazy... Still looks like we're flying in circles now with this particular problem..
I think I've tried almost everything... maybe when Crediar does his next update since he has his Wii working again he'll throw us something else to chew on...I wouldn't rely on him to do that though... or I would imagine he could be getting involved on this thread himself... maybe he secretly does.. none of my business, but as for now... I am just going to have to humble myself with this being what it is. Nearly perfect... stop being greedy.... and just accept it.




No

 

[Jizmo]

OK, so I know this is a bit off topic, but in a way it isn't seeing that this thread is where the Wii Stuntmen were given birth. Anyways... IronMask and I have made the "Wii Stuntmen" group in Rock Band 2 and we want band members who are actual Wii Stuntmen! That is why posting this here. Anyone interested please PM IronMask or myself to exchange codes. No noobs please, only certified Wii Stuntmen need apply. You know who you are.

Slightly back on Topic. With current state of Loaders/CIOSCORP/Menu Patchers/Starfall/Preloader etc.... I can play any of my 200 games with two clicks of the A button, so I'm in absolutely no hurry to have out of region games show up in my Disc Channel. I started Region Patching all my new burns to NTSC anyways so they show up and play just like originals too. besides, most of my PAL stuff is Old Decrypted discs which will never show up anyways. I'm guessing. Will still be awesome when full region free is finally implemented though.

 

[ether2802]

Well I don't want to force anyone NTSC-U to change the region towards PAL, just to confirm if starfall can do the out of region job only with CIOScorp installed, but I really think that IronMask is the indicate............

 

[digitydogs]

I tried it on my system several days ago. FAIL

 

[ether2802]

Mmmmmm.....

then either those guys region free'd their CIOScorp

or they have a Disc Drive region free.......or a screw got loose and now it's making contact on the point of the drive's board...!!!

 

[digitydogs]

I'm leaning more towards the "download an ISO from the net that says it is x when its really y" or "i wanna be special" options... no offense to those few who claim this miracle of not so modern technology

 

[ether2802]

OR we are just angry that we aren't capable of reprodicing this effect

 

[Soplox]

maybe if someone change it's wii region to PAL with any region changer and tell us if starfall's region free works

 

[digitydogs]

I tried it and it didnt. see this page.

Now has the source to the menu patcher made by the twiizers team ever been released? or if not is anyone with access to it willing to share?

 

[noobwarrior7]

I meant to ask earlier, cIOScorp solves the dilemma with save extractor/installer that people were having, doesnt it?

 

[digitydogs]

yes. since your not loading from a backup loader the saves are identical to original disc saves, since as far as the wii knows they are originals being played

 

[Soplox]

I tried it and it didnt. see this page.

Now has the source to the menu patcher made by the twiizers team ever been released? or if not is anyone with access to it willing to share?

i think this is

Menu Patcher