Gaming Emulation Misc Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - Emulator/Etc Discussion

[Citrus333]

Serious Question here - does anyone that has played this game through an emulator think this is worth buying and playing on the Switch? I bought and thoroughly enjoyed SMT5 for the Switch; the day I put it down, I visited my nephew and he had it running at 60FPS in 2k on his PC. The battles and navigation - the game in general - just ran much better than it did on the Switch.

I've no issues with buying the game (and I certainly will, as soon as my OLED comes in), but in terms of actually playing it; is it worth playing via emulation, or should I play it on my Switch?

From what I've seen, it looks and runs a lot better than XBC2, but that's not saying much. Cutscenes look good, gameplay is very blurry, fps drops down to 20. Worth a look at the digital foundry video breakdown if you're considering a buy.

 

[MasterJ360]

From what I've seen, it looks and runs a lot better than XBC2, but that's not saying much. Cutscenes look good, gameplay is very blurry, fps drops down to 20. Worth a look at the digital foundry video breakdown if you're considering a buy.

Actually XBC2 runs much better in 2k it even has a 60fps mod file that works even for Torna dlc not a cheat code btw speeds up gameplay abit. And Im saying this when I played it using the regular ryu build I can only imagine how the Vulkan support will offer. But thats only b/c the game has been around for years to mess with. We may need to wait atleast a month for actual stability in XBC3 prior to emulation crashes alone.

 

[Sunbrotherz]

No longer getting crashes on new Yuzu EA 2883 Vulkan.

 

[cleanhovbot]

No longer getting crashes on new Yuzu EA 2883 Vulkan.

Water glitches? Particle effects?

 

[Wanu92]

Water glitches? Particle effects?

Water particles work now, still some cutscenes crashing. When ouroboros is activated for example. But a great improvement. If someone has slow cinematics just disable 60 fps and play it on 30.

 

[Wanu92]

Water particles work now, still some cutscenes crashing. When ouroboros is activated for example. But a great improvement. If someone has slow cinematics just disable 60 fps and play it on 30.

When ouroboros is activated for exam..(By this I mean the cutescene at the start of the game)

 

[MasterJ360]

When ouroboros is activated for exam..(By this I mean the cutescene at the start of the game)

Its crashing for me there aswell or during the auto attack tutorial

 

[Wanu92]

The cutscene worked on a second try so, all should work and all could fail. But works more often

 

[Wanu92]

Its crashing for me there aswell or during the auto attack tutorial

it worked on a second try. Please try again, remember to disable 60 fps.

 

[Windaga]

I think xenoblade 1 2 3 are greatly wasted on the switch bc the resolution and framerate are bad. They made this beautiful world for you to explore and all you can see is a blurry mess. With xeno3 the game can't even hold 720p 30fps with extreme OC. Unless you are itching to play it right now I suggest you wait a few weeks.

Yeah, I think I might wait. I'm still going to buy the game - but I guess I might hold off for a little bit on actually playing. I'll keep an eye out in this thread and in the discord server to see how the emulators fair across the next few weeks.

Thanks to all for the input.

 

[MasterJ360]

it worked on a second try. Please try again, remember to disable 60 fps.

I'm gonna wait it out for better emulation progress b/c right now its like playing Russian Roulette especially if you beat a boss and the game just randomly crashes on you b4 you can even save. I'll just play it on the Switch in the meantime, honestly I want a quality mod for it so it doesn't look washed out. Just not a fan of overclocking for speed boost which sounds dumb imo since the Switch isnt built for that sort of thing.

 

[RodrigoBR]

Does anyone else have this problem with the water turning golden? how to fix?

 

[Wanu92]

I'm gonna wait it out for better emulation progress b/c right now its like playing Russian Roulette especially if you beat a boss and the game just randomly crashes on you b4 you can even save. I'll just play it on the Switch in the meantime, honestly I want a quality mod for it so it doesn't look washed out. Just not a fan of overclocking for speed boost which sounds dumb imo since the Switch isnt built for that sort of thing.

Im using the 3X resmod 30 fps stable I would get 45-60(not worth it given terrible cutscene performance). Playing in 2X. AA do not affect performance. Stable so far... looks good for only 1 week progress.
My specs laptop i7 11800 32g ram 3080 135W

 

[OldManKain]

Why doesn't emu scaling work -properly- with this again? (or does it?)

I mean why are we using mods? Is it an engine thing, or something that will potentially get fixed down the road?

Not sure if this was answered yet. But I don't feel like reading through 10 pages of speculations. My apologizes.

Emu scaling doesn't work right now because XC3's engine uses a new Temporal 2x Upscaler. The game renders natively at 360p handheld, 540p docked. With the new scaler it outputs at 720p/1080p

Anyone using a lib_nx engine mod that has working emulator scaling is using ColReduction false.

ColReduction false disables 100's of shaders effects (Causes visual bugs) and breaks the Temporal Scaler. It is also the reason why in game cutscenes look lower res than in game play at times. Has nothing to do with the 238 pre rendered vp9 .webm cutscenes.

Any resolution value over 2.5 will automatically default to 2.5

Turning blur2, blur2hlv, or furblur off will also break in game cutscenes. (Visual bugs)

I am still testing and trying to get values labeled for the lib_nx Engine mod.

There are mods being tested that will remove the scaler properly, one for 1440p native resolution among other things that should be ready in a week.

 

[lippe]

EA-2883 is the first build with working cutscenes in event theater! Very nice.

The lightning bug is still present. It's easy to test. You only need to teleport to Colony 9:

The missing particles bug is still present. You can test in event theater.

 

[OldManKain]

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Im using the 3X resmod 30 fps stable I would get 45-60(not worth it given terrible cutscene performance). Playing in 2X. AA do not affect performance. Stable so far... looks good for only 1 week progress.
My specs laptop i7 11800 32g ram 3080 135W

That looks like a CoReduction false mod, you can tell by there are no particle effects causing light reflections, and refractions off of the characters. It's only on the lens.

 

[hostdrum]

Yuzu 2884 is out

 

[Citrus333]

Actually XBC2 runs much better in 2k it even has a 60fps mod file that works even for Torna dlc not a cheat code btw speeds up gameplay abit. And Im saying this when I played it using the regular ryu build I can only imagine how the Vulkan support will offer. But thats only b/c the game has been around for years to mess with. We may need to wait atleast a month for actual stability in XBC3 prior to emulation crashes alone.

We were talking about the games on the Switch themselves and how they run.

 

[MasterJ360]

We were talking about the games on the Switch themselves and how they run.

Ah ic yeah XBC2 battle system is sluggish so I can agree on there

 

[redflamingolingo]

Does anyone else have this problem with the water turning golden? how to fix?


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Yuzu developer in Discord an hour or two ago said it is likely due to mirror mapping and is going to be a very hard, if not impossible, fix.

I went back to OpenGL in the meantime since only Vulkan has the issue.