'XBOX ONE' ANNOUNCED!

[Densetsu]

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

I don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand I'm not in the habit of borrowing/lending games with friends and IDGAF about GameStop, but this seems kind of wrong.

 

[xist]

It's just really, really confused. Either MS don't know what they're doing yet so are stalling, or they do and they're not revealing it because they want to scare as many people into Sony's arms as possible. It's ridiculous not to quash these negative thoughts at this point so why hold back on the info about used games which was one point of contention in the lead up to today.

From the info we do have it seems you can only pass on used games online...so that sounds like an account tied scheme where you'll probably get points or something for your activation code. Bricks and mortar stores will be really happy...

 

[Foxi4]

I like how Microsoft gets flack for "not innovating much for 8 years" (which isn't true in itself, but hey)... and then...

• when the company tries to innovate by treating the XBox One as something more than a console...
• ...and tries to encompass the entire home entertainment sphere in one device...
• ...giving it control over every other device in the room for the sake of convenience so that you don't even have to move your butt off the sofa...
• ...by giving you the capacity to do several things at the same time on one screen with Snap On or on several screens with SmartGlass and controlling all this with gestures and voice commands...
• ...thanks to the updated Kinect...
• ...which allows them to merge physical controls with motion controls to create "motion-assisted" controls, giving you the capacity to, say, physically point at the screen to tell your NPC's where they're supposed to go, lift a shield or perform various in-game tasks with actual gestures while still using a standard controller at the same time...
• ...which is an updated version of the fantastic 360 controller, now with Force Feedback-capable triggers...

...and still gets flack, except now for innovating.

Like, I don't even own any Microsoft systems but I'm shocked by the negativity wave here. Can't wait till E3.

 

[GBA rocks]

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

I don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand I'm not in the habit of borrowing/lending games with friends and IDGAF about GameStop, but this seems kind of wrong.

Well at least is something (being eventually able to UNLINK the game from your xbox live account and somehow resell the license). Try reselling a 3DS or WiiU digital game.

 

[SifJar]

RE: Used games having an "activation fee":

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336937800702238722

 

[Deleted_171835]

I like how Microsoft gets flack for not innovating for 8 years... and then...

• when the company tries to innovate by treating the XBox One as something more than a console
• tries to encompass the entire home entertainment sphere in one device...
• ...giving it control over every other device in the room for the sake of convenience so that you don't even have to move your butt off the sofa...
• ...by giving you the capacity to do several things at the same time on one screen with Snap On or on several screens with SmartGlass and controlling all this with gestures and voice commands...
• ...thanks to the updated Kinect...
• ...which allows them to merge physical controls with motion controls to create "motion-assisted" controls, giving you the capacity to, say, physically point at the screen to tell your NPC's where they're supposed to go, lift a shield or perform various in-game tasks with actual gestures while still using a standard controller at the same time...
• ...which is an updated version of the fantastic 360 controller, now with Force Feedback-capable triggers...

...and still gets flack, except now for innovating.

Like, I don't even own any Microsoft systems but I'm shocked by the negativity wave here. Can't wait till E3.

I dunno, maybe because they're

• Blocking used games, forcing you to pay full price to play them
• Forcing you to connect to the internet to "activate" your games.
• Increased emphasis on Kinect, making it a mandatory feature of the system.

The Xbox One isn't looking too good right now. Whatever improvements/innovations they have made are negated by all the negative news regarding the system.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

I thought the point of this conference was clear up the rumors and speculation circulating around the XBOX One but it just seems to be causing even more confusion.

 

[crysalim]

Cmoooon, the original Xbox playing videos was innovation. PS3 running Linux was innovation (disregarding Sony's self destructive behavior momentarily). Just throwing everything into multimedia in a console at the end of 2013? It's not innovation - it's dangerously behind the curve.

We all own so many devices by now. If anyone is going to use one device for everything, it's going to be a well researched and taken care of piece of hardware, and a game console doesn't fit the bill. Just like Gordon Ramsey says, you play to your strengths.

Xbox 360 = win because of Xbox live and countless exclusives. What MS really needed was a huge push on the interactivity of the new Xbox live for XB1. Someone mentioned game streaming and recording - THAT is what would get me excited as a gamer (we need some kinda money throwing smiley, that's what I would put here, but here's the next best thing )

 

[GBA rocks]

I like how Microsoft gets flack for "not innovating much for 8 years" (which isn't true in itself, but hey)... and then...

• when the company tries to innovate by treating the XBox One as something more than a console...
• ...and tries to encompass the entire home entertainment sphere in one device...
• ...giving it control over every other device in the room for the sake of convenience so that you don't even have to move your butt off the sofa...
• ...by giving you the capacity to do several things at the same time on one screen with Snap On or on several screens with SmartGlass and controlling all this with gestures and voice commands...
• ...thanks to the updated Kinect...
• ...which allows them to merge physical controls with motion controls to create "motion-assisted" controls, giving you the capacity to, say, physically point at the screen to tell your NPC's where they're supposed to go, lift a shield or perform various in-game tasks with actual gestures while still using a standard controller at the same time...
• ...which is an updated version of the fantastic 360 controller, now with Force Feedback-capable triggers...

...and still gets flack, except now for innovating.


Like, I don't even own any Microsoft systems but I'm shocked by the negativity wave here. Can't wait till E3.

Who said we have to appreciate innovation just for the sake of it being innovation.

There's innovation and innovation.

How about innovating in the GAMING space instead of showing "Call of Dookie 17" or "Madden NFL Current Year - now with animated players' dandruff and realistic hot dog stands"?

 

[FAST6191]

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

I don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand I'm not in the habit of borrowing/lending games with friends and IDGAF about GameStop, but this seems kind of wrong.

I can only hope that if this happens that devs/publishers do not get a cut of the fees, sadly there probably will be some arm twisting and it might happen but one can hope.

One can also hope it will not happen at all and a court somewhere makes it unworkable.

 

[GameWinner]

I dunno, maybe because they're

• Blocking used games, forcing you to pay full price to play them
• Forcing you to connect to the internet to "activate" your games.
• Increased emphasis on Kinect, making a mandatory feature of the system.

The Xbox One isn't looking too good right now. Whatever improvements/innovations they have made are negated by all the negative news regarding the system.

If this is really all true than I'm staying far away from this console.

 

[Foxi4]

I dunno, maybe because they're

• Blocking used games, forcing you to pay full price to play them <--- You can also sell and trade your used games online what you conveniently forgot to mention.
• Forcing you to connect to the internet to "activate" your games. <--- You can also de-activate them and trade them in, what you conveniently forgot to mention. It's not Always-Online, it's Online for activating a game and for that only.
• Increased emphasis on Kinect, making a mandatory feature of the system. <--- Doesn't seem like you read my responses. The Kinect is no longer an add-on, it's an integral part of the system, an extension of the controller and comes bundled with the console. Again, it's the equivalent of saying that you're upset you can't play on your Wii without a Sensor Bar, I said it like, 3 times at this point. Your movement is used in both the interface of the console for features like Snap On, zooming and changing tabs as well as in gameplay.

The Xbox One isn't looking too good right now.

I disagree...?

 

[fluffykiwi]

XBox = original = XBox
XBox 360....360=circle so Xbox 0
Now XBox One = Xbox 1

Next should be XBox Too.



Whether always online is required is not a major point to me but it sounds like it would really need always online to work at its best. For displaying what's trending, friends, Skype, internet browsing, Cloud storage, Guide, ESPN partnership etc. You'd have the option of offline but lose a lot of the functionality.

I have a good internet connection, i.e. 120Mb, my PC is always connected, and phones etc connect to the permanent WiFi, even been known to run netflix, twitter, facebook via my BluRay player, but the simple fact that I lost the stream about 15 minutes in when XBox.com became unavailable put any necessity for online connection in context.

As soon as an internet connection is required you include somewhere others can affect the functionality. Hence why I'll never buy a game, movie or music for storage only on cloud. I've only recently accepted downloading games, which I always have access to, I'm not putting myself at the mercy of some anonymous server.

I dont think I'm the target audience as I already have a decent media setup, and do not think a remote control is that complicated. I wanted a games console for games.

 

[nasune]

I like how Microsoft gets flack for "not innovating much for 8 years" (which isn't true in itself, but hey)... and then...

• when the company tries to innovate by treating the XBox One as something more than a console...
• ...and tries to encompass the entire home entertainment sphere in one device...
• ...giving it control over every other device in the room for the sake of convenience so that you don't even have to move your butt off the sofa...
• ...by giving you the capacity to do several things at the same time on one screen with Snap On or on several screens with SmartGlass and controlling all this with gestures and voice commands...
• ...thanks to the updated Kinect...
• ...which allows them to merge physical controls with motion controls to create "motion-assisted" controls, giving you the capacity to, say, physically point at the screen to tell your NPC's where they're supposed to go, lift a shield or perform various in-game tasks with actual gestures while still using a standard controller at the same time...
• ...which is an updated version of the fantastic 360 controller, now with Force Feedback-capable triggers...

...and still gets flack, except now for innovating.

Like, I don't even own any Microsoft systems but I'm shocked by the negativity wave here. Can't wait till E3.

I don't think it gets flack because it's innovative per se, but because it's innovative in ways we don't want or have no use for (I for example would never use most of these things, except for trying it out once). I mean it's like having a console that you have to use your wang to control (pee to the left, move to the left, get an erection and jump ), it's innovative, but no one is really waiting for such a thing. Now I'm holding of judgment because I'm going for the games, and not the console, but it really doesn't invite me to buy one from what I know of it so far (even though I'll probably end up buying it at some point for completion's sake).

 

[GBA rocks]

Basically x1 disc games are really digital releases downloaded "by truck".
You install them on the HDD, activate them to your account and use them with the same limitations of digital releases.
They just spare you the download of 25-50GB of data. (good if you have caps or a slow network)
It's an interesting model and MS so far is the only one allowing at least some form of resale (still to be defined).

 

[B-Blue]

Spoiler

 

[Foxi4]

Basically x1 disc games are really digital releases downloaded "by truck".
You install them on the HDD, activate them to your account and use them with the same limitations of digital releases.
They just spare you the download of 25-50GB of data. (good if you have caps or a slow network)
It's an interesting model and MS so far is the only one allowing at least some form of resale (still to be defined).

Exactly. The fact that you can resell digital purchases is pretty neat, it's a feature not present on Nintendo's or Sony's system and something users of Digital Downloads cried for for years.

 

[the_randomizer]

Exactly. The fact that you can resell digital purchases is pretty neat, it's a feature not present on Nintendo's or Sony's system and something users of Digital Downloads cried for for years.

And I kinda wish it was an option on the Wii U, but for one reason or another it's not.

 

[Foxi4]

I like the idea of full installs rather than Data Installs - it's something I always wanted and never got from a home console. Now, the activation thing does bother me a little, but I do like the fact that I don't have to grind the laser of the system. All I have to do is install the game and I'll never have to use the disc again unless I uninstall the game at one point and I'll feel like playing it again in the future.

Protecting the optical drive from wear and tear being one of the main reasons why USB/Alternative Loaders were invented for various systems, just thought I should mention that. This console allows you to protect your optical drive out-of-the-box, which is pretty neat.

 

[the_randomizer]

This should be updated in the OP
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa