Windows XP-Vista

[Westside]

@Hitto,

You seem to pass around pessimistic views a lot on the M$. I agree Vista is not the best OS, however, I can safely say that games DOES NOT run better on linux, having the lack of support. Linux is unreliable, and HL2 engine does not run as good as it does on Windows. And HL2 is an ass old engine. Oh and if you think anyone whose not a twat can run portal on linux, then I assume you never lived in North America. Linux is not for anyone who wants to actually USE a computer. I agree, the customizability, and the fact that you do not have to download a whole library with every executable file makes it unique, but this is the 21 century. My ass old Athlon 64 3000+ with 512mb memory can run files at lightening speed under XP. With linux, over half of my computer hardware was not supported. I had to get some crappy drivers for my hardware, and it seem to run much worse then it did in Windows.

-Edit- Oops, posted a little too late, guess you're not against XP that much.

 

[cubin']

Vista is awesome. Games run fine for me and I've had no problems

If you're going to argue that it's got bad performance in games and not enough hardware support you can't really say linux is better


linux does have advantages in other areas for some people though.

 

[tetsuya]

Is vista still that bad? My school's offering vista ubber cheap that I couldn't resist.

 

[Westside]

Is vista still that bad? My school's offering vista ubber cheap that I couldn't resist.

My school is giving it away for free. However, XP is much better for now. Vista will get better as hardware support goes up.

 

[kellyan95]

Ooh, portal. A game based on an old engine that was built for an insanely popular PC game that the linux fanboys couldn't live without. Rather than switching, they went through all the trouble of making it work with Linux. Try that with CoD4, GoW, or Crysis. Let me copy and paste my previous statement:


My God, do you people know ANYTHING about Vista?

Let me school you:
It's much more secure than XP
It's not a ram hog - with µTorrent, NOD32, Windows Defender, and Windows Firewall, I use 29% of my 2GB, which is 600MB. 700MB if I have superfetch on. Down to 400MB or less if I'm running GoW or Crysis
You don't need a DX10 card, my DX9 card is owning Vista
It's not XP 2.0, it's a completely new OS built from the ground up
I have had no compatability issues, and with the new patches and hotfixes, neither should you
With said patches and hotfixes, Vista performs better than XP
vLite exists, so you can make a Vista installation as barebone as you want it
Using Dreamscene with the BioShock intro video = massive win
It uses 2-10% of my CPU with NOD32 and Opera running

Stop bashing Vista.


Right, had I said crysis, you would have answered the same thing. Why even argue...

I bought an asus laptop with vista forcedly pre-installed. I can bash the fucking piece of shit software because it bloody deserves it. I paid for it and I'm going to stop using it. You see, I do have an open mind, unlike you, and tried vista. I SUFFERED that OS for about a month now. Can't connect to my TWO HP printers. Routinely "forgets" my wi-fi settings even though I only use ONE hotspot regularily. SLOW AND BLOATED. You even say it yourself! 600 megs of RAM wasted into security programs! (µtorrent rarely goes over 40 megs; and that's when I have more than 10 downloads at the same time)
Why do these problems pop up while XP had none of those?

But let me guess. Your copy of windows never crashes. Well, I and most people I know IRL bow down to your 1337 skillz.

No, it never crashes . I had one BSOD the first week I had Vista, because of the crappy Creative sound card beta x64 drivers that were out then. That's 600MB TOTAL as in: with my awesome BioShock intro video wallpaper and all my other crap. And I use Ubuntu live disks very often to fix PCs, it's great for that purpose. Did you TRY to fix any of the issues you were having? I can turn off all those security programs if I want, I haven't had a virus since I got Vista and have 3 little sisters and a computer illiterate mother.

Bow, bitch

 

[Azimuth]

Yippie another flamewar! These have become too many guys, please stop making topics about vista vs linux vs mac vs freebsd vs ... no one wins in the end, everyone has their own favorite OS and they are free to do whatever they want to.

That being said, there are a lot of "misconceptions" about Linux in this thread and I will try to address them.

Linux is unreliable
yup because gbatemp crashes on me like 40 times a day! So does google, amazon... (sorry didn't want to be sarcastic but couldn't resist)

I can safely say that games DOES NOT run better on linux
I'm sure you are referring to windows games running on Linux, you do realize that even running one game cross platform is an amazing feat right?
The main reason for crappy performance of pc games on Linux is people running them using wine, please people wine is a compatibility layer not a freaking emulator. Games running natively on Linux have been shown to run just as fast(if not faster) than windows games. The lacking quantity of Linux games is a whole other topic..
source

With linux, over half of my computer hardware was not supported. I had to get some crappy drivers for my hardware, and it seem to run much worse then it did in Windows.

I attribute this to a lack of experience, if you would list your hardware I would dig out the drivers for you and show you how to install them. Concerning speed, well I don't mean to bash windows but Linux is much faster than it. You probably chose Ubuntu which is the most bloated distro out there(compiz + gnome), try xubuntu and I'm sure you will experience a huge speed increase.

QUOTE

If you're going to argue that it's got bad performance in games and not enough hardware support you can't really say linux is better

Read above about the difference between native games and wine. As for drivers, blame the vendors who are unwilling to release specs, even without their cooperation Linux has decent hardware support which is getting better.
http://www.linux-drivers.org/

Linux needs patience and dedication to get working but once you get it going nothing can bring it down(except a shutdown of course

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[AshuraZro]

Oh for the love of fucking christ! Can't you guys refrain from a total flame war about Vista, XP and Ubuntu?!

Here's a radical idea: Run whatever the fuck you want to run on your systems and just enjoy it!

If you can play Portal on Ubuntu, good for you. Don't like Vista and want to stay with XP for now? Enjoy it if you want to stay then! If Vista supports all of your hardware and you don't have semi-mythical massive ram usage issues that need 3GBs of ram to fix, good on ya! Point being, enjoy whatever you have and leave it at that.

I'm curious how many people that bash an operating system have actually used said OS. Personally, I've used Vista, XP and Ubuntu (+ a couple others of course) and I would run (and currently do run) all 3 of them on my computers. You know why? Because I know how to use all three to both my advantage and my liking.

 

[Westside]

@Azimuth, yes I am using Ubuntu, no I do not use Compiz, as I do not want Vista type performance. When I say games run better on windows, I mean games that you actually want to play. Yes I know you have to use Wine, which shows how powerful Linux is, but do I really want to be awed in the fact that my favorite games that was meant to run in Windows also run in Linux in one tenth of the original speed? Or, should I stop torturing myself and use the games in what it's meant for?
BTW, if you are really that good... can you find a driver for my crappy on board S3G K8M800 graphics? I would appreciate it.

-Edit- Oops, you're right zero, we should stop the flame wars, I'll stop....

I'll be a goodboy.

 

[xcalibur]

vista is a nice looking OS but i just cant be asked
and if you want a better looking xp-vista use vista transformation pack by windowsx
you even get the little orb at the startmenu and the window previews when you idle your mouse on the taskbar

sidebar sucks though, rocketdock etc. are so much better

 

[Azimuth]

Or, should I stop torturing myself and use the games in what it's meant for?

If one of your priorities is gaming then just go ahead and install windows.

QUOTEBTW, if you are really that good... can you find a driver for my crappy on board S3G K8M800 graphics? I would appreciate it.

http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/
The drivers are there you just have to look for them
edit:I'll pm you installation instructions

 

[Westside]

Or, should I stop torturing myself and use the games in what it's meant for?

If one of your priorities is gaming then just go ahead and install windows.

BTW, if you are really that good... can you find a driver for my crappy on board S3G K8M800 graphics? I would appreciate it.

http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/
The drivers are there you just have to look for them
edit:I'll pm you installation instructions

I'll shut up.

 

[rhyguy]

Vista Inspirat 2 from crystalxp.net is the best way to make your xp computer look like a vista one.

and vista isnt as bad as people make out, my sister runs dreamscene, itunes firefox, msn, utorrent and uses aero interface, and she can play computer games with full speed

 

[Urza]

and vista isnt as bad as people make out, my sister runs dreamscene, itunes .., msn, ...and uses aero interface, and she can play computer games with full speed

Sounds like a power-user amirite?

 

[rhyguy]

and vista isnt as bad as people make out, my sister runs dreamscene, itunes .., msn, ...and uses aero interface, and she can play computer games with full speed

Sounds like a power-user amirite?

she only has 1gb ram

 

[Urza]

she only has 1gb ram

Setting aside the fact that you apparently don't know what the phrase "power-user" means, and probably didn't realize I was using it in a sarcastic matter; it seems you can't tell the difference between a ridiculously bloated system and one that runs well.

 

[boblen]

make the switch,
once you do its easy

If you have enough ram 1GB+ then it all works fine.

People who have had the same computer for 6 year and go out and buy vista and then say to everyone that its crap - they dont stop and think about maby there computer is crap.

 

[Nero]

My Laptop has 1GB of RAM and it runs Vista fine.

~Nero

 

[Ducky]

vista is a nice looking OS but i just cant be asked
and if you want a better looking xp-vista use vista transformation pack by windowsx
you even get the little orb at the startmenu and the window previews when you idle your mouse on the taskbar

sidebar sucks though, rocketdock etc. are so much better

LOL !!!

Thats the only post that actually refers to the topic!!

 

[gEist]

512 here and its still runs fine

 

[Prime]

wait till vista comes out with sp2 then buy vista !



Why spend money when you can save it?

at some point you WILL HAVE TO upgrade to vista if your a pc owner

That statement is completely bull shit, What has Vista got that other OS's cant get?