Windows 10

[The Real Jdbye]

So the newest build doesn't seem to have changed a whole lot, but it seems to rip even more from other popular desktops and window managers - new maximizing/minimizing/closing animations, plus an obviously-beta notification tray/pop-up system that doesn't completely blow and acts very similar to the type most GNOME-based desktops seem to be using.

But I still can't get my screen to lock when I close the lid. Get your shit together, Microsoft.

A couple examples of the revamped notification system, for anyone interested. These are from Elpis, which hasn't updated in close to two years, so I guess anything that supports traditional Windows notifications will pop these up? It's pretty neat, anyways, compared to the annoying tray 'bubble' system that's been a pain in the ass forever.

Windows 8 has notifications like that. However, they only seem to work for Metro apps that use them. I guess they have just made balloon tips open toast notifications using the existing code. I haven't actually seen anything that uses balloon tips in a long time, they all seem to use their own system of toast notifications or similar, but it's nice to get rid of it permanently. It fit right in in XP, but seems outdated now.

I don't get why I should get Windows 10. Really, this isn't a post à la hivemind where people act all dumb to prove a point. I have Windows 7 and I have everything here. What am I missing from 8 and 910? I have a big desktop PC with no issues of loading and stuff.

Well, there are things only supported by Win8 and up, and those will only become more and more common. Project Spark comes to mind. Right now there might not be anything there to make you want to update, but there will be sooner or later. You can't stay on Windows 7 forever, and they are not likely to go back to the old style shell. When you get used to the changes, it's actually pretty nice. Give it a try (once the tech preview becomes more complete or it goes retail) and if you're willing to learn something new and don't just abandon it immediately when something doesn't work the way you're used to, you'll find that it has a lot of nice features that you'd miss if you went back to Win7.

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

Yeah, I'd definitely seen the corner pop-ups when I'd plug in a drive or something, or on the rare occasion the built-in mail monitor would alert me to a new message in the email address tied to my MS account. Never for non-MS apps, and as far as I'm aware the notification list is completely new.

 

[Mario92]

Yeah, I'd definitely seen the corner pop-ups when I'd plug in a drive or something, or on the rare occasion the built-in mail monitor would alert me to a new message in the email address tied to my MS account. Never for non-MS apps, and as far as I'm aware the notification list is completely new.

That's right. I definitely like that idea as many times there would be popup on tray you miss, however if it lists all and every notification that audio programs do then that would be some major list.

 

[WiiCube_2013]

Boot time is a big deal when it comes to 3 seconds VS 1.5 minutes.

This certainly is a huge boost to start up the OS.

But for now I'm going to stick to Windows 7 because I can't be bothered to upgrade/try Windows 8.1 (more or less the same as 7 except the Start Menu has 'favourites' added to it and some ads).

 

[freestile]

I'm wondering how this will run on my mbp. I had 8(legit) and got the free upgrade to 8.1. I haven't bothered to check
if I have to pay anything or if I'll get the upgrade to 10 for free. I'd like to try it out when its official,
or upgrade if/when I'm eligible. I have no gripes but use ubuntu and OS X a little more. I actually
didnt mind 8.1, but I'm not sure. I don't play any hd games or anything on that windows 8.1 partition so its not too bad.
Hopefully they get it right this time. lol!!

 

[Drak0rex]

lol, that hairdo...

 

[Flame]

does any one now how the "get free windows 10, if you have windows 7" works?

 

[Kioku]

does any one now how the "get free windows 10, if you have windows 7" works?

Through a link that will go up when 10 is released. That's my guess.

 

[NAND0]

Yea I'm gonna stay on windows 7 as long as I can

 

[TecXero]

The only thing that might be interesting to me in Windows 10 is the new DirectX. Even then, I have to wonder how customizable the interface is. I have Windows 7's UI set up like Windows 98SE's. I'm not fond of interfaces using more resources than needed, simple and efficient is all I need. Though, more and more developers seem to be seeking alternatives to DirectX, so it might not be that big of a deal for gaming.

 

[porkiewpyne]

As much as I love my W7, getting a free upgrade is bloody tempting. I mean, it's just a matter of time anyway so may as well get it free

 

[Gruntzer]

It will come with DX12
Only good virtue I guess

 

[emmanu888]

My plan anyway is to have a hard drive image of my 1TB hard drive so i can restore back to Windows 7 in case something goes wrong.

 

[Kioku]

I don't get why I should get Windows 10. Really, this isn't a post à la hivemind where people act all dumb to prove a point. I have Windows 7 and I have everything here. What am I missing from 8 and 910? I have a big desktop PC with no issues of loading and stuff.

If you're happy with where you are, then don't worry about upgrading. Simple as that. There are features and boosts that you may or may not notice or care for. In the end, it's your choice. That's why a lot of people were still on XP when Vista and even 7 were out. I'm grabbing 10 ASAP. Looks like a nice upgrade to 8.1 and it's free.

Is boot time really such a big deal? It half reminds me of the megahertz wars, possibly even the more recent javascript ones, but seemingly with even less benefit at the end of the day, mostly by virtue of solving an issue that potentially already had workarounds (standby* and hibernate). Certainly it can become unmanageable (no doubt we have all fixed those machines and have startup fiddling tools used as part of the opening foray) but for a well managed install on reasonable hardware of the day it is has never really been bad. The bigger annoyance for me is turning it on to check something and seeing "installing update ?? of silly number, you will have to wait it out".

*I would not be all that shocked to hear the boot time stuff caused some companies to lessen research into idle or "standby" power, or at least stopped them from fixing up drivers when problems arose there. I can only hope the allure of portable devices and server farms compensated.

In my opinion the only real benefit is for SSD users. While, yes, the 8.1 boot time is faster than 7? It isn't much to brag about. Using half the resources in general is great for lower end users. I personally prefer 8 to 7. It just looks cleaner. Windows 10 looks to further improve my opinion of the UI. I'm hoping ClassicShell or anything of the like will work with 10's Start menu rather than replace it.


Just look at my kitty! I want that as my start icon.

I've been thinking about toying with the Preview. My question: Is it worth fully upgrading or should I VM it?

 

[mid-kid]

Instructions for buying a windows 10 PC (once they're officially out):

1. Unpack PC from box with all cords etc
2. Properly connect your keyboard, mouse, monitor etc
3. Reformat drive c: and install your favorite flavor of linux
Your welcome! XD

"Multiple desktops," wow they added something that linux has been doing for 10-15 years now XD

Wow, they added some basic tiling, you can now have UP TO FOUR apps at the same time on the screen, and it gives you a shitty menu to chose to fill the empty space, so you can not look at the other apps! Wooow, new & shiny. (Been using i3wm for years)

 

[filfat]

Windows 10 TP January build 9926 Looks great

We just need more of the touch features back (Im using a Surface)

 

[Flame]

Wow, they added some basic tiling, you can now have UP TO FOUR apps at the same time on the screen, and it gives you a shitty menu to chose to fill the empty space, so you can not look at the other apps! Wooow, new & shiny. (Been using i3wm for years)

ive never understood this Multiple desktops thing... ive been using Linux distro for years now in dual boot.. and i dont need it the Multiple desktops thing.


one thing MS windows can learn from linux world is the getting the community to help. i really think MS should open source they web browser rendering engine and let the community to fix the problems.

 

[filfat]

ive never understood this Multiple desktops thing... ive been using Linux distro for years now in dual boot.. and i dont need it the Multiple desktops thing.


one thing MS windows can learn from linux world is the getting the community to help. i really think MS should open source they web browser rendering engine and let the community to fix the problems.

They have open sourced a lot of things lately (eg .NET) im sure they will improve in that aspect

 

[Flame]

They have open sourced a lot of things lately (eg .NET) im sure they will improve in that aspect

end of the day, MS is a company and most they stuff should be closed sourced but and i dont think things should be open source for the sake of it.

but open sourcing they web browser rendering engine could be good for them and the web.

 

[Vipera]

If you're happy with where you are, then don't worry about upgrading. Simple as that. There are features and boosts that you may or may not notice or care for. In the end, it's your choice. That's why a lot of people were still on XP when Vista and even 7 were out. I'm grabbing 10 ASAP. Looks like a nice upgrade to 8.1 and it's free.

That post was three months old. What made me get 10 as soon as it comes out are two things:

- Free
- DirectX 12

Maybe I'll wait a month or two because bugs. Other than that, I'm in!