Hacking Will there be a 3DS PC Emulator

[Ikki]

Long and Hard days and nights of coding await the No$Gba Team.

You're kidding me?
2.6b hasn't been made in like...decades.

DiscostewSMDoubt you'll see a No$3DS in this lifetime.

That.

 

[Rydian]

Waaait.. How do you know that? Please, do tell us the 3DS full specifications! What we've heard so far is rumours and that some unknown company announced it's graphics hardware is being used.

Um, yeah. And have you seen the demo of Resident Evil: Revelations? Looks pretty damn good to me. And Kojima himself compared the 3DS to the PS3.

You all seem to be forgetting that the resolution of the 3DS is far below that of modern consoles that can do HD, so it doesn't need nearly as much power to pull off the same graphical quality since it's doing it at a much lower resolution.
Cut the resolution in half, and the work you need to do is down to 1/4th.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Waaait.. How do you know that? Please, do tell us the 3DS full specifications! What we've heard so far is rumours and that some unknown company announced it's graphics hardware is being used.

Um, yeah. And have you seen the demo of Resident Evil: Revelations? Looks pretty damn good to me. And Kojima himself compared the 3DS to the PS3.

You all seem to be forgetting that the resolution of the 3DS is far below that of modern consoles that can do HD, so it doesn't need nearly as much power to pull off the same graphical quality since it's doing it at a much lower resolution.
Cut the resolution in half, and the work you need to do is down to 1/4th.

Obviously the PS3 can handle far greater resolutions (and requires a higher fillrate to match), but that aside, I think the comparison was more about GPU capabilities like model detail, textures, shaders, etc.

 

[GreenBanana]

You're really jumping the gun here. They still can't even do DSi-enhanced games yet.

 

[RupeeClock]

If it's based on DS architecture, which is pretty likely, then maybe.
We can already emulate Wii games, and I doubt the 3DS will be more powerful than that.

 

[ryan90]

You're really jumping the gun here. They still can't even do DSi-enhanced games yet.

i think the reason they can't do dsi enhanced games is because it would require hacking the dsi which would take alot of time and money, there are only a few good dsi exclusive games right now so there isn't as much demand. When the 3ds comes out there will be

 

[DiscostewSM]

There have been attempts at hacking the DSi to run code in that mode in the past.

http://hackmii.com/2009/07/dsi-mode-homebrew-anyone/

 

[PeregrinFig]

I think there'll probably be one, just not a good one. No 3D effects, and barely playable to use, like the PC Gamecube and Wii emulators. I don't think the same people that hack the system for flashcards and homebrew also make PC emulators.

 

[Rydian]

and barely playable to use, like the PC Gamecube and Wii emulators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS7AqHdaMWc

Looks full speed and playable to me, at least in that situation.

 

[iYoshi-]

Time = production
it will happen.

QUOTE(PeregrinFig @ Jul 11 2010, 08:09 PM)
and barely playable to use, like the PC Gamecube and Wii emulators.

Guess it depends on the PC speed

 

[Chamkey]

Okay guys let's be a little realistic here. I've seen emulators for virtually every single console that ever came out. I've even seen roms for virtually every game ever made.

You know the saying "If you build it they will come..."

Well this is one of those situations. No matter who builds it someone always breaks it down, looks at the coding in the chips and goes hmmm... let me see if I can do this. Albeit the emulators are getting suckier and suckier all the time.

I remember the vba from back when I had my gba. I used to have like a hundred games for it. Bought every single one of them but here in good old South Africa there is no such thing as a gameshark or action replay (guess what I used the emulator for...). Then I bought my ds-lite around three months after it came out in South Africa. I then found DSEMUME which sucked to the point of oblivion. I never used the thing again. I then found no$gba... My dream had come true, finally a way to cheat on ds.

Now that the 3ds is coming out I think that people will try to emulate the system but this time I don't think we've got coders that can do the job, they're all hired by the companies that make the stuff... The 3ds has too many factors to take in and I think that the emulator is going to be really sucky at best. Even the coder for the no$gba could only decipher so much of the code that he was able to make a passable emulator.

With the 3ds the code will be too complex for even him to sort out. I just hope they do coz I love to cheat and here in S.A. there's no one around to play with so that's how I get my kicks...

Anyway, hoping to get my 3ds soon.

 

[Adr990]

The poll is a total fail.

You got to hack the 3DS in before so you can dump the system firmware BIOS etc etc to finally eventually make a Emulator.

 

[Midna]

If it's based on DS architecture, which is pretty likely, then maybe.

It won't necessarily use DS architecture. What it will have to do is include enough of the original DS' components to be able to run original DS games without a hitch. The DS runs an ARM 9, and though the newer ARM 11s can run ARM 9 code, they run it too fast. If Nintendo wants to run picture perfect DS games, they'll include an ARM 9 of some sort, probably a more powerful one that can be underclocked when needed. Nintendo has a vast history of cleverly reusing different bits of their older handheld's hardware to do secondary tasks in the new games, and operate the games from the older system. Only time will tell. i'd actually really like to see what Nintendo does with the CPU.

 

[KazoWAR]

The title says it all. Do you think hackers will spend their time making a emulator to run 3DS ROMs on your PC just like no$gba?

I think yes

Hackers don't make emulators, programmers do.

 

[mehrab2603]

The title says it all. Do you think hackers will spend their time making a emulator to run 3DS ROMs on your PC just like no$gba?

I think yes

Hackers don't make emulators, programmers do.

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[jimwhat]

Even if they do make an emulator, not many computers would be able to use it.

They would need a pretty good cpu just to run it w/o it skipping frames or slowing down.

 

[mangaTom]

I really doubt the 3ds will have a decent emulator since no$gba doesn't even emulate perfectly(So buggy.I mean it's the emulator I've been using before my DSi) and it's the best ds emulator out there (for me though).Let's just focus first on hacking the system(that's not even out yet) cause how can you create an emu if the con is not hacked.

 

[Rydian]

I really doubt the 3ds will have a decent emulator since no$gba doesn't even emulate perfectly(So buggy.I mean it's the emulator I've been using before my DSi) and it's the best ds emulator out there (for me though).Let's just focus first on hacking the system(that's not even out yet) cause how can you create an emu if the con is not hacked.

Er, no. No$GBA hasn't been updated in over two years, while DeSmuME and iDeaS have continued.

http://desmume.org/
http://ideasemu.biz/

No$GBA hasn't been the best DS emulator in a while.

 

[mangaTom]

I really doubt the 3ds will have a decent emulator since no$gba doesn't even emulate perfectly(So buggy.I mean it's the emulator I've been using before my DSi) and it's the best ds emulator out there (for me though).Let's just focus first on hacking the system(that's not even out yet) cause how can you create an emu if the con is not hacked.

Er, no. No$GBA hasn't been updated in over two years, while DeSmuME and iDeaS have continued.

http://desmume.org/
http://ideasemu.biz/

No$GBA hasn't been the best DS emulator in a while.

Well haven't played an emulator for a long while though so sorry.ahahaha.Btw iDeaS was my first emyu.

 

[shamiko_]

yes, but after they finished hacking the 3ds