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lufere7 said:
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There are some USB Sticks coming up with the latest Exynos on-board, exceeding OUYA's specs while remaining at a comparable price. ;)

As for the OUYA's controller... what good is a touchpad if you can't physically see what you're touching? Even with an on-screen cursor it's going to be less accurate than just "touching the screen".

PlayStation Certified devices not only get PSOne games - they also have access to PlayStation Mobile games and in the future some cool Gaikai streaming features, so keep that in mind.

As for NVidia supporting the OUYA... NVidia generally supports Tegra devices via Tegrazone and it won't be any different with the Wikipad. Even if there will be exclusives on the OUYA, I'm sure there will also be ways of acquiring them on other Android devices with compatible hardware if you know what I mean. :P That, and NVidia will have its own Project Shield to worry about too, so I'm pretty sure they will prioritize their own brainchild first and foremost.

At the end of the day it all runs down to whether you want a stationary device with no touchscreen, in which case you can opt for the OUYA... or a device that has both and choose something else. :)
 
Foxi4 said:
There are some USB Sticks coming up with the latest Exynos on-board, exceeding OUYA's specs while remaining at a comparable price. ;)

As for the OUYA's controller... what good is a touchpad if you can't physically see what you're touching? Even with an on-screen cursor it's going to be less accurate than just "touching the screen".

PlayStation Certified devices not only get PSOne games - they also have access to PlayStation Mobile games and in the future some cool Gaikai streaming features, so keep that in mind.

As for NVidia supporting the OUYA... NVidia generally supports Tegra devices via Tegrazone and it won't be any different with the Wikipad. Even if there will be exclusives on the OUYA, I'm sure there will also be ways of acquiring them on other Android devices with compatible hardware if you know what I mean. :P That, and NVidia will have its own Project Shield to worry about too, so I'm pretty sure they will prioritize their own brainchild first and foremost.

At the end of the day it all runs down to whether you want a stationary device with no touchscreen, in which case you can opt for the OUYA... or a device that has both and choose something else. :)
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PlayStation Mobile dont have PS one games. that was idea "dumped" awhile ago.
 
It's a tablet with a controller. It looks amazing and all, but I see in a similar light as the Vita. It looks nice, but not too many games that are notable enough to justify a purchase yet.
 
Foxi4 said:
To be fair, Demo versions are always welcome, but you can't say that all consoles offer those for all their games, can you? Heck, the only two ways to obtain a DS Demo (since you mention DS games) are to connect to a DS Station or to use a Wii, which not every DS owner has. Even if we go a generation further, neither the 3DS nor the PSVita offer Demo versions of all the software, so the argument is somewhat moot.
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I can't say that every console offers day-0 demo's, but I've made a choice to support a console that does. I CAN say that I am more likely to buy a demo'ed OUYA game on Google Play than a demo-less game on Google Play.

On the DS? Sure. On the 3DS or the PSVita? Not necessarily - you're forgetting about Digital Distribution.
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No, I purposefully left out digital distribution. It's not an intelligent option on the 3DS.

Ron said:
It's a tablet with a controller. It looks amazing and all, but I see in a similar light as the Vita. It looks nice, but not too many games that are notable enough to justify a purchase yet.
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I agree with you, but I have a question. Do you own a tablet?
 
Looks like a really nice, cheap 7" tablet to me. The gaming controller is just a bonus. I don't know why people are so against gaming on android. It's got a lot of great emulators.
 
Bobbyloujo said:
Looks like a really nice, cheap 7" tablet to me. The gaming controller is just a bonus. I don't know why people are so against gaming on android. It's got a lot of great emulators.
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What do you do if you're old enough to have played all those emulated games first hand? You need more than emulation to carry the system. Plus, everything can play emulators these days. There's no reason to fork over $250 on a new device for emulation alone.

Android gaming lacks noteworthy 3rd party reviews (no Metacritic scores), outside advertising, killer apps, demos, and EXCITEMENT. If I went and bought one of these tablets, my next thought would be, "Now what?" It's a solution waiting for a problem.

I wish things were different, but apparently I'm part of the problem.

Ron said:
I have an iPad mini, and iPad 2, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 running ICS.
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Do you think that since you already own a tablet, your judgement on this thing is harsher? I'm asking because I own a $99 HP Touchpad, and I've found that it has negatively colored my views on tablets in general.
 
IBNobody said:
Do you think that since you already own a tablet, your judgement on this thing is harsher? I'm asking because I own a $99 HP Touchpad, and I've found that it has negatively colored my views on tablets in general.
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I believe this product to be one of the first of many gaming friendly tablets with a controller. The fact that it's a tablet hasn't affected my judgement on this, as none of my tablets have actual buttons, as opposed to the OUYA for example, because I have no use for a non-portable Android gaming device.

Like I said, its in the more or less same situation as the Vita, from a consumer's point of view. Reasonably priced for the hardware, but the oh, so important games aren't notable enough for an actual purchase.
 
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PlayStation Mobile dont have PS one games. that was idea "dumped" awhile ago.
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No-no-no - Playstation Certified devices do. PSMobile (Software platform) and PSCertified (Hardware certification program), two different things. :P This stuff is accessed via Sony's PlayStation Pocket App, methinks... :unsure:

...and if it doesn't work that way, well...

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heartgold said:
Personally I'll wait for the ARM cortex A57 devices rolling out. I have faith in them emulating dreamcast, PS2 and gamecube maybe. :P Just another year I guess mmmm so more emulation options.

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a50/cortex-a57-processor.php
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Processor aside, those systems will require a good graphics chip, and here's where NVidia rolls in since "they're the best and screw all the rest". :P

Also, Dreamcast emulation is entirely achievable (seen it running at decent framerates on devices we have today), Gamecube? Perhaps in the nearby future. PS2? Lawl, that thing is convoluted and the answer is "No" - even emulating on the PC is quite a pain. :D
 
Foxi4 said:
Processor aside, those systems will require a good graphics chip, and here's where NVidia rolls in since "they're the best and screw all the rest". :P

Also, Dreamcast emulation is entirely achievable (seen it running at decent framerates on devices we have today), Gamecube? Perhaps in the nearby future. PS2? Lawl, that thing is convoluted and the answer is "No" - even emulating on the PC is quite a pain. :D
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The dolphin android dev is certain he can get a few gamecube games running full speed on the tegra 4 chipset/ GPU.

Recommended mobile GPU's, those have the high end GPU's on the market or soon to be release.

Adreno 330
Mali-T658/T678
Tegra 4

Yes, we need stronger GPU's to play more advance games at playable speeds. I'm sure we will get there. Give it a year or two.
 
heartgold said:
The dolphin android dev is certain he can get a few gamecube games running full speed on the tegra 4 chipset/ GPU. (...) Yes, we need stronger GPU's to play more advance games at playable speeds. I'm sure we will get there. Give it a year or two.
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Oh, I'm certain of that - the Gamecube is relatively straight-forward when you think about it, I was talking about the PS2. Are you familiar with its hardware? S*it, that thing's a mess, a lot like the Saturn. The Emotion Engine and the Graphics Synthesizer are two bitches to emulate.
 
One thing has been bugging me about this announcement: is this for real this time, or will it sink back into the murk of development for another year?
 
Veho said:
One thing has been bugging me about this announcement: is this for real this time, or will it sink back into the murk of development for another year?
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I really hope it is, because if they decide to re-schedule it for last minute upgrades again they may as well call it The Duke. It's fine as it is, especially at a low price point.
 
Foxi4 said:
Oh, I'm certain of that - the Gamecube is relatively straight-forward when you think about it, I was talking about the PS2. Are you familiar with its hardware? S*it, that thing's a mess, a lot like the Saturn. The Emotion Engine and the Graphics Synthesizer are two bitches to emulate.
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Also isn't the main problem the required power consumption? I know that the mobile CPU/GPU are great, but they easily waste the gadgets battery in a matter of minutes. Just like the newest and greatest laptops with all the juices maxed (I remember a friend with a >FullHD res screen laptop in 2008 and it's ~10-15 min max usage time with graphics heavy usage (at the time, WoW maxed)).

But regardless, if I could find one small device (preferably TV based, but could be portable) that could emulate near perfectly all consoles to date not including the PS3/360/WiiU, I'd be ready to fork out whatever the price was asked. Not talking about high end gaming devices, but devices similar to the Wikipad or OUYA. USB plug and play for all controller adapters and poof.. *drool*
 

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