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Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
Not entirely true, but go on thinking that way.Urza said:Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
Throw out as many baseless retorts as you like.SpikeyNDS said:Not entirely true, but go on thinking that way.Urza said:Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
OSW said:but is that a flaw in the scene philosophy?
is it really worth preserving those parts of the game given they are completey and entirely useless (as far as i know) to any gameplayers, hackers, developers or anyone interested in the game.
The point is to preserve the work in as close to it's original form as possible. Whether or not there's other tangible benefit is irrelevant.science said:OSW said:but is that a flaw in the scene philosophy?
is it really worth preserving those parts of the game given they are completey and entirely useless (as far as i know) to any gameplayers, hackers, developers or anyone interested in the game.
Seriously. What is the point
Urza said:Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
If someone else wants to do it, that's fine. They can do whatever they want with it.QUOTE said:Correct me if I am wrong but couldn't a scener take this extract it and then re-rar it however they wanted? Provided the original ripper created the DIF files. Problem solved?
You apparently don't know me very well.Prophet said:Urza said:Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
Could you use a hug or something? Lately you've been on kill-mode 24/7 What's up? Want to go play catch or something?
Urza said:You apparently don't know me very well.Prophet said:Urza said:Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
Could you use a hug or something? Lately you've been on kill-mode 24/7 What's up? Want to go play catch or something?
Urza said:now for all the people spouting bollox about the "scene" are talking out ur arse and have no idea of the console scene historySpikeyNDS said:QUOTE(djgarf @ Feb 22 2008, 06:30 PM)Urza said:Throw out as many baseless retorts as you like.SpikeyNDS said:japanese releases are scrubbed cause they are the only smart ones out there. Why download the whole thing if you don't have to?
Because the scene exists to preserve data in a digital form as completely as possible. They don't really give a shit how long it takes for you to download.
Not entirely true, but go on thinking that way.
The fact that this discussion is even taking place supports my statement.
i have already mentioned wot starcube did for the gamecube but lets go a little further back in time to the work done in the dreamcast scene.
dreamcast games came with cdda audio files which as most people know do not compress very well at all,kalisto decided to take the cdda audio,convert it to wav files and package them all up in a single unpack.exe which also contained a program which would convert the wav's back into cdda.After kalisto gave up the dreamcast scene echelon started releasing the games instead. by this time selfboot .cdi images were the standard and contained all the files not just the game data and so the unpack.exe also needed a small program called inject.exe to inject the re-converted cdda from the unpack.exe back into the .cdi image.
the work done by kalisto and echelon in the dreamcast scene was done to make the releases SMALLER,the work created by starcube and then shared with many other scene groups in the gamecube scene was to make the releases SMALLER.
notice a pattern forming here?
for the people that were going on about how the "scene" likes pure dumps i hope you have enjoyed the little history lesson presented to you by myself from the yrs i have spent downloading disk images and seeing how things have been done. Plz enjoy ur arse being handed to you on a plate for knowing nothing about what you were talking about
here endeth the lesson and have a nice day
Urza said:I suggest experimenting in compression formats with a better ratio, then scrubbed or non-scrubbed releases would have closer download sizes.science said:well it's a visible part of his body, and a vital part of him as a man. without it he isn't a man.OSW said:but is that a flaw in the scene philosophy?
is it really worth preserving those parts of the game given they are completey and entirely useless (as far as i know) to any gameplayers, hackers, developers or anyone interested in the game.
Seriously. What is the point
The point is to preserve the work in as close to it's original form as possible. Whether or not there's other tangible benefit is irrelevant.
Sure, the statue of David didn't really need a penis. They could have lopped it off, it's not going to fuck anything with it.
you can't see the difference between a scrubbed dvd and a normal one. without the scrubbed data, is the game effectively any different?
QUOTE(theclaw @ Jun 21 2008, 03:20 PM)