Hacking Wii Mod

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It's been a long time since I last posted on here. But recently I checked in just to see what had changed in the homebrew scene, not much to my surprise. In my long time away one new System Menu came out that does nothing new and a whole bunch of IOSs were updated/released. Dop Mii has dropped many features I like to have in a wii tool and MMM has made some progress but not much and is closed source. So since the tools haven't been updated much I decided to update my release some more as this is the tool I use on my own wii. And after getting caught up to date and fixing a whole bunch of errors I decided it was time to release under a new name, also to help with the confusion. So here is the release of Wii Mod v3.2, a mod of the old dop ios.

Some of the highlights are:
Pretty comparable to Dop Mii v15, MMM v13.4, Wad Manager v1.7, Anytitle Deleter DB, bluedump and NUSD.
Compatible with cboot2 and sneek / uneek
Can find missing IOSs that are needed for installed WiiWare.
Can copy an IOS to a new location
Can change an installed IOS's version
Can patch an installed IOS
Can patch System Menu's required IOS and version
Shows clean IOSs at a glance.
Interface helps you find and fix problems.
Added Any Region Changer
Added Any Title Manager( extractor and deleter )
Added App launcher
Warns you if you try to Install a system menu without the required IOS
Warns you not to delete the system menu IOS
Warns you not to delete the IOS used by the Homebrew Channel
Hold D-PAD for continuous scrolling
Supports AHBPROT in all areas

Config File is sd:/apps/wiimod/wiimod.txt
Database = sd:/apps/wiimod/database.txt
Output saved to sd:/wad/wiimod/wiimod.csv
Wad Dump dir = sd:/wad/wiimod/

Download v3.2:http://www.mediafire.com/?dbjdoelj94ai1ef
My previous releases can be found at old topic

Thanks to Lenneth there is now a forwarder for Wii Mod.
Download Forwarder:http://www.mediafire...zh7yflj2d01cj81
The forwarder path is: SD:/apps/wiimod/boot.dol then USB:/apps/wiimod/boot.dol

This is based on dop-ios, dop mii, indirectly by MMM, wad manager, Any Region Changer, TBR, NUSD, AnyTitle Deleter and its mods, bluedump and many other wii tools. So thanks goes out to Marcmax, Waninkoko, Wiipower, SifJar, Nicksasa, PheonixTank, giantpune, Lunatik, Team Twiizers, wiiNinja, Sorg, Red Squirrel, MrClick, mariomaniac33, Leathl, daveboal, Wiiwu, Joostin, Tona, DacoTaco, tueidj, TeenTin, airline38, Lenneth, Maisto, wes11ph, Arikado, and many others. This tool could not exist without the work of many from the homebrew scene. If I have forgotten anyone please let me know, it is not intentional.

BRICK ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN BRICK YOUR WII IF YOU USE THIS INCORRECTLY, it warns you if you try to do something you shouldn't but it can't stop you from bricking your wii. This should not be used carelessly.

Changelog :
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3.2
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Fixed AutoLoadIos
Warns of error 003 when patching korean key into IOS 70 or 80 on a non korean wii
Added DisableControllerButtonHold, if set to 1 menus will no longer react to buttons being held down
More Wiimote cleanup
USB fixed( but temperamental DisableSetAHBPROT = 1 AutoLoadIOS = 0 )
Now compiled with devkitPPC 26 and libogc 1.8.11.1

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3.1
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Added missing ios hashes thanks to kylster and Joostin
Removed 3.3k nus option from system menu installs
Region changer now only allows languages supported by the region
Fixed app loader glitch going back up dir
Now detects region changed korean wiis and warns of bricks thanks to Joostin
Combined Wad_Uninstall and Uninstall_FromTitle
Now compiled with devkitPPC 25 and libogc 1.8.10, fixes new Wiimotes

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3.0
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Fixed bug fetching region for some system menus that was introduced in 2.9
Fixed IOS 3 not showing in IOS menu
Changed so if it crashes it will reboot in 5 seconds
Fixed some issues with install cios
Changed batch wad (un)/installs so it says what # its on
Added support for IOS 253 bootsneek so check IOS doesn't choke on it
Wad Manager no longer lists mac os x metadata files(._ files)
changed wad manager so it reloads AutoLoadIOS on install if AutoLoadOnInstall
is set
Added option onlyCheckIOSOnDemand, if set it'll only check IOSs when called
from the check IOS menu
Added option on Check IOS menu, if you have AHBPROT it will check IOS < 28
instead of skipping them, this may make you lose AHBPROT depending on the
patches you have applied.
During system menu installs it checks if you have the correct IOS it now
will check the permissions of the IOS if you haven't run Check IOS yet.
Merged some changes from BLIND
Can now change System Menu to run on IOS <22
Install system menu from wad
Now compiled with devkitPPC 24 and libogc 1.8.8

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2.9
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Fixed Wad manager crashing on install failures
Batch wad installs now give a summary of errors they had
When wad dump fails it now skips the rest of the contents
Changed any title manager menus so its not easy to accidentally delete something
Tweaked wiimote controls
The new setAHBPROT patch causes usb to fail so added an option DisableSetAHBPROT to fix usb
Added a csv output quick viewer

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2.8
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Fixed display bug in IOS menu
Thanks to davebaol the AHBPROT no net bug is fixed!
Now compiled with devkitPPC 23 and libogc 1.8.7
AHBPROT can now be passed on to the next reloaded IOS
Added Set AHBPROT patch for IOSs, it allows an IOS to reload the next
IOS with AHBPROT, so you can get AHBPROT again after losing it
Can now choose version and required IOS of System menu
Moved remove stubs to the IOS Menu
Check IOSs now no longer drops AHBPROT but it skips checking IOSs < 28

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2.7
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Changed how system menu region is detected
Added Region presets to any region changer
Fixed Channels and System menu install issue with receiving http 1.0 replies
Moved AHBPROT no net code, should catch in more cases
if AutoloadIOS is installed and it wasnt before, reload it if AutoLoadOnInstall is on
Changed the IOS menu around
Added new feature copy ios to another location and or change version and or patch perms
BC now dumps to RVL-bc-v[x].wad on any title manager
MIOS now dumps to RVL-mios-v[x].wad on any title manager
IOSs now dumps to IOS16-64-v[x].wad on any title manager
Channel Menu now display currently installed version.
Lots of code cleanup and bug fixes

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2.6
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Added 2 config options to skip checking certain IOSs:
skipios for skipping a number and skiphash for skipping a specific hash
Anytitle Manager will now mark channels that were likely moved to SD
Added Errors and Warnings to the csv
Anytitle Manager now shows at a glance titles that don't match your Wiis region(This is normal for custom titles ex:Forwarders)
Now compatible with cboot2
Now compatible with sneek/uneek(AHBPROT doesn't work)

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2.5
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IOS menu shows clean IOSs at a glance( clean == Nintendo IOS )
When installing an IOS over a clean IOS with a higher revision it will now try to change the version the IOS instead of deleting it
Added option, DeleteDefaultInsteadRemove, to override this new higher version default action and delete the IOS
Fixed some issues in wad manager and cleaned up the menus
Check ios now has options to display ios currently being checked, dump IOS hashes, and skip checking the IOSs just output csv(useful if it errors while checking)
Brought back the config option AutoLoadIOS to load a specific IOS at launch(ex 236)
More caching and general speed up.

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2.4
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Now identifies stubs by known hashes, speeds up and improves accuracy of IOS stub deleter and checkios
AHBPROT mode now works in any region changer and any title manager.
Fixed wad extract in AHBPROT mode
Fixed fakesign installer and added option to change install location to 236
Lots of code clean up, way more efficient, no more gotos

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2.3
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Fixed Wad Manager browsing usb and smb.
Removed message when missing needed IOS while scanning titles

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2.2
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Added double buffering to stop the menus from flickering
Fixed bug in wad dumping that caused crashes when failing to allocate memory
Advanced menu no longer reloads the ios
Cached many values that are read multiple times from the wii, much more efficient with Any Title Manager and the IOS Menu
You can now press B to cancel installing a Channel, IOS, or System Menu while it's still downloading
Changed movement through files in any title manager, wad manager and app loader
Cleaned up any title manager menus, added some color, and sorted the titles.
Fixed bug in installing IOS from wad
Menus are now color coded to help you find and fix bugs.
IOS menu will warn you if you try to delete an IOS that is used by a WiiWare and warn you if such an IOS is not currently installed.
Removed config option checkios, it is meaningless now

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2.1
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Fixed anyregion changer
Fixed fakesign installers
Added missing IOSes 3 and 5 to stub deleter
titles database moved to sd:/apps/wiimod/database.txt, still checks sd:/database.txt as fallback
Config file moved to sd:/apps/wiimod/wiimod.txt
IOS csv moved to sd:/wad/wiimod/
Added Front light feedback to system menu install
Disabled the password feature left in wadmanger
Adjusted wiimote controls

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2.0
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Added Front light feedback to IOS install and check IOSs, makes for easier update all IOSs
Fixed bugs with install cios menu
Added IOS extractor
Made a temp fix for AHBPROT no network bug.
Cleaned up code in main menu
Added Any Title Manager( Extractor/Deleter ) -- Doesn't work in AHBPROT
Fixed error in IOS manager with displaying version sometimes
Added more IOS details to IOS Manager
Moved main menu options around
Fixed bug in IOS installer new revision selector
Fixed bug with changing revision number sometimes
Added a warning if you try to delete the IOS used by HBC
Fixed SMB Shares

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1.8
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Fixed checking some IOSs
Added IOS version to cvs output and Wii Mod version
Added System Menu 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, and 3.1
Added Wii Speak Channel, EULA, BC, MIOS, Region Select, Digicam Print Channel(Japan only), Japan Food Service/Demae Channel(Japan only), Shashin Channel 1.0 Fukkyuu Programme(Japan only),
TV Friend Channel / G-Guide for Wii(Japan only), and Wii no Ma Channel(Japan only)
Added Channel Version support
Changed the way patches are chosen
Added Applauncher

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1.7
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Changed check IOSs to reload original IOS before outputting csv, should cause fewer errors.
Changed how IOS revs were grabbed in a few places, should cause fewer errors in deleting IOSs, checking IOSs and a few other places.
Changed Config to sd:/wad/wiimod.txt

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1.6
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Fixed bug in IOS menu not showing options of selected IOS

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1.5
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Added Any Region Changer
Added missing IOS 22 v1294
Added patching of Korean key, Add Ticket version check, and Setuid check.
Fixed bug in new channel install
Fixed System Menu bug 4.3E & 4.3U were swapped
Fixed bug in update all IOSs, would miss updating IOSs that don't have any revision installed yet.
Lots of code clean up.

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1.0
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dropped priiloader hacks as priiloader is changing and it really wasn't that helpful
Updated to devkitPPC r22 and libogc 1.8.6
Fixed usb
express tbr install keeps IOS15 v257 to support Hackmii
Hold D-PAD for continuous scrolling
changed install/tbr to look for backup folder from wad instead of wads
added to WAD Manager an option to abort batch operations with B button
wadmanager now can mark a sub-folder all for install or uninstall using (+)/(-)
updated to support System Menu 4.3
updated to support all the new IOSs
Improved channel installer compatibility

Warns if trying to install a system menu if you are missing the required IOS.
Protects you from deleting the system menu IOS in the IOS menu.

Supports AHBPROT in all areas, if in AHBPROT mode it won't check IOSs unless
you manually do it from the menu as that looses AHBPROT mode.

Reorganised menu, prompts and bugfixes

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older versions
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The older versions can be found at
http://gbatemp.net/t200297-jskyboo-s-new-i...-dop-ios-mod-10
 

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Thanks for the update
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i haven't check the forums all day and the 1st i do i see something useful to me
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When i try to do a IOS Check i get a code dump... Also i see you have the option to update all IOS is that wise considering if if you have a cIOS, will it get stub'd?
 

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Nice. I'll have to try it later when I hook my wii back up (it's in the box from a trip right now...)

Just a few things to comment on:
jskyboo said:
Dop Mii has dropped many features I like to have in a wii tool
Erm...DOP-Mii hasn't dropped any features. If you think it did, you probably saw the severely crippled "Wiibrew Edition", which lacks all the patching stuff. The full version with all the patching features is still supported and updated on Google Code.

QUOTE(jskyboo @ Dec 31 2010, 06:24 PM) express tbr install keeps IOS15 v257 to support Hackmii
Hold D-PAD for continuous scrolling
Holding D-pad for scrolling is a nice addition. One of the few things that bugged me in a lot of homebrew was the inability to hold down the arrows to scroll long lists.

As for the IOS15 and TBR stuff, TBR is obsolete. It's been replaced by the IOS236 installer.
 

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You might have a messed up IOS it is trying to load, what system menu are you on, what IOS was running, and was it early or late in the checking did it crash(it adds '.'s as it goes and takes up a screen)?

It installs the lastest that is not stub, and it works with a static db so it wont grab new IOSs that it doesn't know are a stub or not.

I wasn't aware the "Wiibrew Edition" wasn't the only edition, none the less I have fixed many bugs that still persist in their latest branches.

As for TBR being obsolete, no its not, it just is the old way of doing it. Installing 236 can be done just the same in the IOS menu, but if you don't already have a IOS to work with cause you have really borked your system the TBR is still good.
 

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i did not reload the IOS so it was using the default IOS; also it was fairly early, right after IOS4 when it crashed. If it uses the hbc ios then IOS 58. I didnt look though.
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My Wii Specs are as follows:
System Menu 4.3u
IOS36 patched with all hacks
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IOS80 patched to allow WW VC by SD
IOS236 patch of 36 installed here
IOS202v2 Only version that my ext.hdd wont sleep on not sure if issue but hey it works...
IOS222/223/224rev5.1
IOS249rev17 for Triiforce ISO forwarder compatibility
IOS250rev20b [57] for COD:BO support

Those are the only patched IOS i have.

Would a cMIOS effect it? cause i just recently installed cMIOSv10.
 

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Well in the upper right it tells you what IOS is currently loaded. It likely was a low version one or a cios. cMIOS should have no effect. You can figure it out by choosing to load the IOS, start at the lowest avail and work up, if it crashes that is the problem one. After that I would need to know the IOS number and rev # to know more. I have noticed more problems loading IOSs since changing to 4.3 in particular IOS 9 doesn't work but the checking should skip it if you are on 4.3. How did you update to 4.3?
 

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i updated to 4.3 back when mod-mii had the 4.3u update available. i never use safe updaters! only Wad or Dop-Mii to install new System Menu but indeed i used a network install with Dop-Mii v14.2 Wiibrew Edition at the time of install.

Ok Current IOS: 58 v6176 (non-patched!)
AHBPROT Enabled

about to load the rest will edit post when done
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Current IOS:4 v65280 (stub)
Can't get IOS version list..

Then it freeze reset wont work or anything

Current IOS:9 v1034 (not a stub)
Cant' get IOS version list..

If you try to goto opton "IOSs" it'll tell you this "The IOS you have Loaded can't get the IOS version list. Try to reload an IOS>22. Press any key to continue.."; then it just automatically loads ios30 v2816 when you hit L on D-Pad.

Current IOS:10 v768 (stub)
Can't get IOS version list..

Same as IOS:4 just freeze; need to hold power button to turn off wii.

Current IOS:22 v1294
can't get IOS version list..

Same issue as IOS:9 same dialog same IOS30 auto reload. Wii mote loses sync and reset button no longer works have to hold power button to turn off.

Any IOS < 22 will give me the same dialog if i try to got option "IOSs"; if i try to reload another IOS it auto loads IOS:30 and once again have to hold power button to turn off.


here is the whole report i get when scanning IOS's

Escepton (DSI) occurred!
GPR00 8000E88C GPR08 00000002 GPR16 80080000 GPR24 8010CB5C
GPR01 80131810 GPR09 00009032 GPR17 800767C8 GPR25 8010CF5C
GPR02 80076330 GPR10 00000001 GPR18 000003E8 GPR26 8010C75C
GPR03 0000006D GPR11 801317B8 GPR19 00000032 GPR28 8010D75C
GPR04 00000058 GPR12 24200028 GPR20 00000032 GPR28 8010DB5C
GPR05 802C23F8 GPR13 80081140 GPR21 8006D100 GPR29 802E28F4
GPR06 00000000 GPR14 8010DF5C GPR22 8010E35C GPR30 00000000
GPR07 80131710 GPR15 8010E75C GPR23 8010D35C GPR31 0000002D
LR 8000E88C SRR0 8000e8d8 SR11 00009032 MSR 00001000
DAR 0000002D DSISR 04000000

STACK DUMP:
8000e8d8 --> 8000e88c --> 800128c0 --> 80013254 -->
80013700 --> 80004348 --> 8002accc --> 8002ac7c

CODE DUMP:
8000e8d8: 7CBEF8AE 7EA4AB78 7FA3EB78 54A0103A
8000e8e8: 7D7B002E 7CD6002E 7CF7002E 7D18002E
8000e8f8: 7D39002E 7D5A002E 7C1C002E 91610008



Hope this further helps

also when selecting to reload any IOS they are all white with the exception of all my cIOS. i know i have various patched installed on IOS36&80 but it doesnt show it as having these.
 

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Well loading up any stub like 4 v65280 or 10 v768 will cause a crash, as the stubs aren't meant to load but those two are both known to the program so it shouldn't be loading those two. IOS 9 like I said can cause problems but once again it shouldn't be loading it cause you are on 4.3. The IOS 22 you mentioned actually was missing from the IOS list, it will be in the next point release, but I checked it out and it doesn't seem to be causing problems for me so that probably isn't the problem IOS.

Loading any IOS < 22 should give you that message. It is not an error its just that those IOSs don't support that functionality so you can't use them in certain parts of the program that is why it warns you to use one > IOS 22.

As for reloading IOS the list being white, well yeah, that coloring is a quick peek at what permissions the IOSs have, but the way the program knows what permissions an IOS has is by checking them. Since that part of the program is crashing for you, yeah it wouldn't have any of that information yet.

Well having stubs isn't exactly good and you should probably remove them sometime, but it probably isn't causing your error, you have IOS 9 but that shouldn't be the problem as the check IOS code skips that in 4.3, the IOS 22 you mention shouldn't be causing an error, any others crash when you manually load them?
 

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Hi !
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Can you tell me wich DevKitPPC File and wich libogc I need please ?
Or can you upload your DevKitPPC and libogc folders on mediafire on something like that please ?

When i want to compile it i have this error :

Code:
linking ... wiimod.elf
c:/devkitpro/devkitppc/bin/../lib/gcc/powerpc-eabi/4.5.1/../../../../powerpc-eabi/bin/ld.exe: cannot find -lwiilight
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [/c/wii/wiimod/wiimod.elf] Error 1
make: *** [build] Error 2

I don't know what is bad (i'm noob in compilation), and I want to be able to compile your homebrew because I want to do a french traduction of it (with your accord).
Thanks to help me please.
In waiting for a answer i'm going to make a forwarder for this great homebrew
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(Sorry for my bad english, i'm from Belgium)
 

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I have it in the complete changelog that I compiled this with devkitPPC r22 and libogc 1.8.6 and it uses the wiilight lib. A forwarder would be real nice. I haven't yet looked into making them, but ideally it would be one that allows it to start in AHBPROT mode.
 

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Lenneth said:
Hi !
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Can you tell me wich DevKitPPC File and wich libogc I need please ?
Or can you upload your DevKitPPC and libogc folders on mediafire on something like that please ?

When i want to compile it i have this error :

Code:
linking ... wiimod.elf
c:/devkitpro/devkitppc/bin/../lib/gcc/powerpc-eabi/4.5.1/../../../../powerpc-eabi/bin/ld.exe: cannot find -lwiilight
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [/c/wii/wiimod/wiimod.elf] Error 1
make: *** [build] Error 2

I don't know what is bad (i'm noob in compilation), and I want to be able to compile your homebrew because I want to do a french traduction of it (with your accord).
Thanks to help me please.
In waiting for a answer i'm going to make a forwarder for this great homebrew
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(Sorry for my bad english, i'm from Belgium)

Try this.

-Erik
 

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Thanks you two
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With libwiilight installed it work fine
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Code:
linking ... wiimod.elf
output ... wiimod.dol

[email protected] /c/wii/wiimod
$

Thanks a lot jskyboo and burritoboy9984 =)
I can do my french traduction now and my forwarder too (booting with AHBPROT if I can, i'm going to use the wiimc forwarder source to help me to do it)

Have a nice 2k11 year
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And now because so many have asked for it in the past I have added in Any Region Changer. I also have done some major code clean up and in testing uncovered some bugs so I give you v1.5.

Download:http://www.mediafire.com/?wdq6z21s7g9z90x

Changelog since 1.0 :
Code:
Added Any Region Changer
Added missing IOS 22 v1294
Added patching of Korean key, Add Ticket version check, and Setuid check.
Fixed bug in new channel install
Fixed System Menu bug 4.3E & 4.3U were swapped
Fixed bug in update all IOSs, would miss updating IOSs that don't have any revision installed yet.
Lots of code clean up.
 

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seems like 1.5 broke the ios section ...

in 1.0 when you selected ios and then used the up/down/left/right pads to select a ios
the currently selected ios changed depending on which one was highlighted as well
as the information displayed .

in 1.5 it stays stuck on 58 .....

reverting back to 1.0
 

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I maked an animated forwarder for Wii Mod (all version), he use the IOS58 with AHBPROT (I used the WiiMC forwarder source to compile the .dol file and the Static Base WAD STLB AHBPROT.wad of XFlak)

You can download it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?zh7yflj2d01cj81

Screenshot:

wiimod.jpg


The forwarder path is: SD:/apps/wiimod/boot.dol

(Sorry for my bad english, i'm from belgium)
 

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u need to change one value in the tmd or something (I can't remember exactly where) in order to have the forwarder channel launch apps with ahbprot/direct-hardware-access.

Instead of recreating the wheel, just use an ahbprot enabled base wad from here and modify it with you new banner,icon,sound,dol,title,id, etc.
 

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@Lenneth Great job on the forwarder. If you don't mind I'll link to it in the first post so others can find it easier.

For those of you out there that have tried Wii Mod, what do you think? Running into any errors? Things you wish were changed/improved/added?
 

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No problem you can link it on the 1st page, thanks
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On my wii in 4.3e I don't have any problem with your apps, all work correctly.
I don't know what to add, he already have a lot of features except making coffee
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A menu to launch BootMii and Homebrew Channel or an option to power off/reset the Wii ?
An update check feature is not a bad idea.
 
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    EDOSTORY Adjustable Dumbbell Set, 44LB/66LB/88LB Free Weights Dumbbells ,4 in 1 Set Barbell, Dumbbell, Kettlebell and Push-ups, Non-slip Handles, Push up, Fitness Home Gym for Men Women https://a.co/d/bE2hsOR Neat might order
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    certainly looks interesting
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  • x65943 @ x65943:
    only 22lbs total tho - how much can you really exercise with that?
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    I'm a pretty weak guy and even I use 50lb on each side for dumbbell bench and 30lb for each arm with dumbbell curl
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    imo without at least a 30lbs dumbbell you won't get a lot of use out of em - and these max out at like 10lbs for each arm
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    oh I see you actually get to pick which set you want - so you could buy the 88 lb one
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    Didn't notice in the title it says 44LB/66LB/88LB
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    I really want to start lifting again
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    Gym memberships here are like $40 a month so in like years worth of time I'd have enough just to buy a nice in home set
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    that's true, gyms are expensive.
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    kenny I'm very concerned now that you may not be working out properly
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    My life isn't proper
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    first of all, there should be exactly zero reasons to place your sweaty balls on any of the equipment - generally you are supposed to wear clothing at the gym
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    You aren't going to the right gym if you need to wear clothes
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    Ball sweat drops down like normal sweat if your balls are always dry I'd recommend a doctor
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    We're talking about exercise balls of course
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    what to do if I am a doctor
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    just where do you live mate
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    Midwest weathers been like 90 all week
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    KenniesNewName @ KenniesNewName: Midwest weather is so bipolar in the summer