Hacking Wii Menu 4.2 Released

[psykobug]

don't update and wait for a firmware updater , there is no need to make a 100 pages thread !

 

[Jacobeian]

No, this won't touch the HBC at all...


This update kills the HBC...

Channel 'HABA'
Title ID: 00010002-48414241
Version: 0x 11
Size: 25739264
Contents: 18 (of which 11 are shared)

and FreeTheBugs worked with SM4.0 without any change an does so with SM4.x ...

huh ? would you mind explain why ?
system menu 4.2 contains code that DELETE the HBC, there is nothing that FreeTheBug can do against that, it has just not been designed for that
it *might* be the only thing that is done is checking the signature of channels so patching the trucha bug into IOS70 *might* work but its' very unlikely they are doing this (nobody has reported that other fakesigned channels were deleted also) and there are no evidence that the TruchaBug can easily be reintroduced in IOS70 with current available tools, neither that it will make fakesigned channels undetected...

By the way, the channel you are posting is the updated SHop Channel, totally unrelated

 

[Cmurda187]

Interesting... I might make a BootMii backup and then try this out.
Hopefully with interesting results.

That may not be a very good idea ATM because apperently this modifies boot2. So there may be no way for you to reinstall your backed up nand. My opinion, don't jump the gun, wait as this system menue really only kills homebrew and offers no advantages as of yet. If what you have works then don't update.

 

[Xiphiidae]

Interesting... I might make a BootMii backup and then try this out.
Hopefully with interesting results.

That may not be a very good idea ATM because apperently this modifies boot2. So there may be no way for you to reinstall your backed up nand. My opinion, don't jump the gun, wait as this system menue really only kills homebrew and offers no advantages as of yet. If what you have works then don't update.

It won't update boot2 if I only install the System Menu Wad (Along with IOS70, 56 and 57).

 

[--=ZerO=--]

No, this won't touch the HBC at all...


This update kills the HBC...

Channel 'HABA'
Title ID: 00010002-48414241
Version: 0x 11
Size: 25739264
Contents: 18 (of which 11 are shared)

and FreeTheBugs worked with SM4.0 without any change an does so with SM4.x ...

huh ? would you mind explain why ?
system menu 4.2 contains code that DELETE the HBC, there is nothing that FreeTheBug can do against that, it has just not been designed for that
it *might* be the only thing that is done is checking the signature of channels so patching the trucha bug into IOS70 *might* work but its' very unlikely they are doing this (nobody has reported that other fakesigned channels were deleted also) and there are no evidence that the TruchaBug can easily be reintroduced in IOS70 with current available tools, neither that it will make fakesigned channels undetected...

By the way, the channel you are posting is the updated SHop Channel, totally unrelated

A channel update kills a channel not a systemmenu.
Nintendo overwrites the HBC with a newer fake-HBC...

 

[illinialex24]

Oh I hope Waninkoko can make a 4.2 safe upgrade installer soon.

 

[KTroopA]

to this thread i add

mushroom powerup by nintendo indeed...

I expect the reply will be soon enough to counter this

 

[9th_Sage]

Nintendo overwrites the HBC with a newer fake-HBC...

I don't see anything like this in the Wiimpersonator logs. If that was the case, I'd think a channel with the ID HAXX would show up there, would it not?

 

[Xiphiidae]

Nintendo overwrites the HBC with a newer fake-HBC...

I don't see anything like this in the Wiimpersonator logs. If that was the case, I'd think a channel with the ID HAXX would show up there, would it not?

It seems that the only altered or added channel title was in fact HABA, the Shopping Channel.
So I guess it is in fact the system menu that deletes Homebrew, although if it does, wouldn't that mean that all Homebrew wouldn't be able to be reinstalled?

 

[--=ZerO=--]

Interesting... I might make a BootMii backup and then try this out.
Hopefully with interesting results.
That may not be a very good idea ATM because apperently this modifies boot2. So there may be no way for you to reinstall your backed up nand. My opinion, don't jump the gun, wait as this system menue really only kills homebrew and offers no advantages as of yet. If what you have works then don't update.


In my "Tut" i only installed the new IOSes and the new SM...

There is no Boot2, IOS2xx, HBC replacement...

BootMii still does work.
Loaders still work.
HBC is still present.

QUOTE(--=ZerO=-- @ Sep 29 2009, 03:51 PM)

Nintendo overwrites the HBC with a newer fake-HBC...

I don't see anything like this in the Wiimpersonator logs. If that was the case, I'd think a channel with the ID HAXX would show up there, would it not?

It seems that the only altered or added channel title was in fact HABA, the Shopping Channel.
So I guess it is in fact the system menu that deletes Homebrew, although if it does, wouldn't that mean that all Homebrew wouldn't be able to be reinstalled?

I don't know what exactly killed the HBC. Mine is still present.

 

[illinialex24]

Interesting... I might make a BootMii backup and then try this out.
Hopefully with interesting results.

That may not be a very good idea ATM because apperently this modifies boot2. So there may be no way for you to reinstall your backed up nand. My opinion, don't jump the gun, wait as this system menue really only kills homebrew and offers no advantages as of yet. If what you have works then don't update.

In my "Tut" i only installed the new IOSes and the new SM...

There is no Boot2, IOS2xx, HBC replacement...

BootMii still does work.
Loaders still work.
HBC is still present.

How about wad's?? Can you trucha sign IOS70??

 

[FenrirWolf]

So if the menu doesn't seek and destroy the HBC like it does with the TP Hack, when does it get deleted? Is it searched out only during the update process or something?

 

[9th_Sage]

It seems that the only altered or added channel title was in fact HABA, the Shopping Channel.
So I guess it is in fact the system menu that deletes Homebrew, although if it does, wouldn't that mean that all Homebrew wouldn't be able to be reinstalled?
I'd say this depends on how it's deleting the Homebrew Channel. I think that if it were looking for the channel ID they could just change a letter of it and it would no longer find it. I have no idea though. BootMii could be reinstalled if the HackMii installer worked on the new IOSes. It'll have to be updated (I don't know if they fixed something or if the installer just doesn't know what to do since it's unfamiliar with those IOS versions). BootMii should install on the Boot2 they install from what I hear, if it could install before the update. But again, only if the installer still worked, which it doesn't.

QUOTE(FenrirWolf @ Sep 29 2009, 04:05 PM) So if the menu doesn't seek and destroy the HBC like it does with the TP Hack, when does it get deleted? Is it searched out only during the update process or something?

That would seem kind of well...'ass backwards' if that is the case.

Seems like it would be a dumb way of doing it to me.

 

[illinialex24]

Oh this is interesting then.

I'm just waiting for the safe upgrade guide with StartPatch or something.

 

[Adr990]

Nintendo still forgot a non nintendo publiced IOS to 'patch' >.>

 

[skawo96]

So if the menu doesn't seek and destroy the HBC like it does with the TP Hack, when does it get deleted? Is it searched out only during the update process or something?

That would seem kind of well...'ass backwards' if that is the case.

Seems like it would be a dumb way of doing it to me.

Someone with 4.2 should try to install a HBC wad file.

 

[9th_Sage]

I can't wait for Team Twiizers to weigh in. I'm intensely curious as to what this menu is doing exactly.

 

[FenrirWolf]

Nintendo still forgot a non nintendo publiced IOS to 'patch' >.>

 

[--=ZerO=--]

How about wad's?? Can you trucha sign IOS70??


yes



QUOTE(FenrirWolf @ Sep 29 2009, 05:05 PM) So if the menu doesn't seek and destroy the HBC like it does with the TP Hack, when does it get deleted? Is it searched out only during the update process or something?

Well, i don't no what exactly does kill the HBC. HABA is the Shop Channel as someone said. The HBC is HAXX.
Anyway. Mine is still there and otherwise LodMii would do the job too.



BUT! Never try to Truchasign and install Boot2v4!!! As long as you have BootMii u are save!

 

[Adr990]

A cheap,easy fix guide could be like:

Download IOS70 & SM 4.2 WADs.

Install IOS70 than 4.2.

Bootmii still would work, and all other stuff like USB loaders/softmods too.


If you do a official update:

Use TBR and follow the steps as normal.

Than may Delete IOS 222,223,249,250 first. with ATD.

Than install Hermans cIOSs, Waninkoko IOS, BootMii IOS
Done.

(P.S. Next to the public unofficial IOS 'ciosfix'(Waninkoko cIOS rev? on 247), IOS247. They also forgot IOS 202 (USB 2.0 IOS) )

And all others IOSs in fact.

(since we can make our own IOSs.
Anyways, we could use TBR anyways, than install trucha bug etc IOSs. And go again.

(May once IOS15 is touched it would be un able to downgrade with TBR?)