Gaming Which Graphics Card is Better?

[Garchomp]

I am upgrading from my Nvidia Geforce 9200m GS which i heard only supports 256MB of memory. I was wondering if it was wise to upgrade to a Nvidia GT 220 which supports 1024MB for $70 or a Nvidia Geforce GT 240 which supports 1GB and is $80. I am looking for the better card for gaming because i play games like Starcraft 2 and it does not run smooth at all on my 9200m GS....

the links to look at both of these cards are:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+Verto+NV...d=1218121949861


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+NVIDIA+...&st=GeForce 9200M GS&cp=2&lp=8#BVRRWidgetID

Edit: oh yeah btw my PC rating is only 3.2

 

[Deleted User]

Nvidia are almost completely obsolete nowadays.
I'd go for an ATI card, if I were you, like a Radeon.

 

[Garchomp]

can you tell me a good cheapish raedon please?

Edit: is this a good one?
XFX - ATI RADEON HD 4350 1GB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card

 

[Rydian]

I am upgrading from my Nvidia Geforce 9200m GS which i heard only supports 256MB of memory.First, we need to establish one point.
Memory =/= Power.
For an example...
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...7&card2=187
Both those cards can come with 256 megs of video ram on them.
But the second one is over twice as fast as the first.

I was wondering if it was wise to upgrade to a Nvidia GT 220 which supports 1024MB for $70 or a Nvidia Geforce GT 240 which supports 1GB and is $80.1024MB = 1GB.

Before we go any further into the differences between the cards... the "m" in your current model notes that it's a mobile card. Is this integrated graphics on a desktop, or is it a laptop? If it's a laptop, it's a no-go.

I am looking for the better card for gaming because i play games like Starcraft 2 and it does not run smooth at all on my 9200m GS....

Nvidia are almost completely obsolete nowadays.

Bull.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias...-the-250-market
Nvidia's still releasing competing cards with ATi/AMD. Whoever told you they stopped has no clue what they're talking about.

QUOTE(Garchomp @ Mar 2 2011, 09:08 PM)

Edit: is this a good one?
XFX - ATI RADEON HD 4350 1GB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card

No, it's low-end.

 

[Garchomp]

can someone please tell me just a better card for starcraft 2 and such gaming, because it lags
my laptop:

HP Pavillion dv5-1017nr
Intel Core Duo CPU 2.00Ghz
4.00G of ram

Edit: the card has to be $100 or less, cuz im on a budget

 

[Rydian]

You cannot upgrade it because it's a laptop. The 9200M is integrated and there's no slot for a dedicated.

 

[Garchomp]

wow really? that makes me pissed off........

 

[Rydian]

You are (by far) not the only one. People discover every day that they can't upgrade their non-gaming laptop to game. It's one of the things you lose in exchange for portability.

 

[2wirends]

Dude. You have a laptop. You can't easily upgrade laptop graphics card.

And for starcraft 2 - have you tried...

1024x768 resolution
low settings EVERYTHING

that works for me and i have a card equivalent to a Geforce 8400 (I have the Quadro NVS 140m). your card the nvidia 9200m should be slightly faster than my card.

I'm thinking your card should be able to run it smoothly 1v1 on ladder. or even 2v2 with some stuttering.

those cards you linked to in your main post are for desktop computers.

 

[Garchomp]

meh its not terrible but the fps for starcraft 2 sucks and it can lag terribly sometimes, most other games run fine on optimum settings though.

 

[YayMii]

If you want to game, you'll need to build yourself a desktop PC or buy a higher-end laptop.
And Nvidia's not obsolete. *points at GTX 590* Don't forget about the bonuses of Nvidia, such as PhysX and the (optional) 3D Vision.

 

[Garchomp]

Dude. You have a laptop. You can't easily upgrade laptop graphics card.

And for starcraft 2 - have you tried...

1024x768 resolution
low settings EVERYTHING

that works for me and i have a card equivalent to a Geforce 8400 (I have the Quadro NVS 140m). your card the nvidia 9200m should be slightly faster than my card.

I'm thinking your card should be able to run it smoothly 1v1 on ladder. or even 2v2 with some stuttering.

those cards you linked to in your main post are for desktop computers.

ok thanks for the info, does low settings look that bad? i like good-looking games

 

[Deleted User]

Nvidia are stopping Linux support with Optimus, as far as I know.

I mean yeah sure for Windows gaming it's fine I guess, for some reason I totally forgot about Windows there.

 

[2wirends]

Dude. You have a laptop. You can't easily upgrade laptop graphics card.

And for starcraft 2 - have you tried...

1024x768 resolution
low settings EVERYTHING

that works for me and i have a card equivalent to a Geforce 8400 (I have the Quadro NVS 140m). your card the nvidia 9200m should be slightly faster than my card.

I'm thinking your card should be able to run it smoothly 1v1 on ladder. or even 2v2 with some stuttering.

those cards you linked to in your main post are for desktop computers.

ok thanks for the info, does low settings look that bad? i like good-looking games

Well, I actually run it at 1280x720 for the widescreen - scaled cuz I'd see more.

No. It doesnt look too bad. It looks kind of like an early PS2 game. lol. Anyhow. This doesn't affect the gameplay at all. Since there is less detail on the screen, your concentration will actually go up... And a lot of Pro Sc2 players actually use Low settings anyhow due to choice since there IS less details to spot for.

If your laptop has pretty low resolution like 1280x800, you could run it at native screen. When run native, EVEN at LOW settings - it still looks awesome. Once I put it on my native, 1440x900, it looked great but i had a 10 FPS drop... so I just went to a lower resolution...

FPS is generally 50-60FPS, going towards 30 for bigger battles but still playable.


But still if you dont care, max performance is lowest res, lowest everything. Still looks halfway decent.

 

[YayMii]

Nvidia are stopping Linux support with Optimus, as far as I know.

I mean yeah sure for Windows gaming it's fine I guess, for some reason I totally forgot about Windows there.

Most gamers use Windows anyways. And a lot of games don't run on Linux natively.

 

[Deleted User]

Nvidia are stopping Linux support with Optimus, as far as I know.

I mean yeah sure for Windows gaming it's fine I guess, for some reason I totally forgot about Windows there.

Most gamers use Windows anyways. And a lot of games don't run on Linux natively.

Cards with optimus suck even for Wine because without the right configuration you won't get HAL.
On a Linux box nearly 100% of my Steam games (of which I have a lot) are completely compatible and run smoothly via Wine and I don't even have a powerful system. In fact Source games run faster through Wine than they do on Windows.

 

[Dreamboy21]

at that price limit you can try
Sapphire Ati HD5570 1GB DDR3

 

[Deleted User]

You know the documents folder? There's a text file in the StarCraft II folder called "Variables.txt" with some proper help you can modify it to get increased performance.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/375107634 - There are lots of tweaks in this thread that can lower the requirements of StarCraft II beyond that of the traditional Graphics settings / GUI interface. Give it a shot, also turn down the heavy CPU settings like Physics to low; it'll help boost your FPS some.

I also want to establish something. StarCraft II is NOT a good-looking game. Okay, StarCraft II's*** development started in 2003. You're going to have to choose between performance (FPS) or Quality (Shiny!!!) if you want to play StarCraft II on a laptop w/o a powerful GPU.

fixed, but SC II still looks comparable to WoW >.< Stylistically anyway.

 

[Rydian]

StarCraft II is NOT a good-looking game. It's graphics and development started in 2003, which means, essentially that the graphics are nearly 10 years old.

That.
No.

That's not how the development process works.

 

[RiotShooter]

Nvidia are almost completely obsolete nowadays.
I'd go for an ATI card, if I were you, like a Radeon.

My OCed Gtx 560 Ti says otherwise.