What should developers do once their game goes gold?

Discussion in 'General Gaming Discussion' started by Taleweaver, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Nothing and move on

    6 vote(s)
  2. Large expansions only

    5 vote(s)
  3. Extended versions are okay, assuming it won't mean compromising on the original version

    3 vote(s)
  4. All the extra content is fine! :D

    4 vote(s)
  5. Other, namely... (please explain in post)

    3 vote(s)
  1. Taleweaver

    Taleweaver Storywriter

    Dec 23, 2009
    We all know creating video games take a lot of time and effort (at the very least the AAA-titles). It's hard to say in advance when exactly all aspects of the game will be done, as bugs may prove to be much harder to debug or gameplay elements may be harder to "get right" than expected. In any case, deadlines are estimations.
    For console games, there's also the certification process that takes extra time to complete. The testing, censoring and that sort of stuff takes time as well. As you may know, Watch_dogs is currently finished. Or "it's gone gold". The main reason it's not in stores yet (as of writing) is because of the certification process by sony and microsoft (and nintendo somewhere down the line).

    The thread title and poll refers to what developers should do in this time. I normally wouldn't have bothered caring about it, but then this news happened: nintendo goes for DLC. In other words: you can buy extra content (DLC) on top of the actual game. Including day 1 DLC.

    As you can read in the linked thread, people aren't happy with the decision. And I have to agree that at first glance it sort of sounds like a hidden cost for the "actual" game. But thanks to the guys at extra credits (please watch this video...it's fun to watch AND gives plenty of info on all angles), you'll see there's another side to this.

    Hence the question: what should developers do after creating the actual game? :unsure:

    Before I do a rundown of the options, I'll have to stress this very important part:
    When it says "Nothing", I actually mean "Nothing but bugfixes and patches to make sure the game is playable".

    That's a pretty straightforward thing. You can argue to what degree a developer is responsible to make sure the game is playable, but it'll be another discussion. For now, assume basic bugfixes and stuff are to be handled anyway and it'll be about extra content.

    A rundown of the options:

    "Nothing and move on" is the major vote for people against DLC in general. It means that by the time the game is sold in stores, the actual artists will already be working on different projects. And most coders as well (unless game breaking bugs show up).

    "Large expansion packs only" is how DLC used to be before it was called that. Half life: blue shift, Red alert counterstrike, starcraft: broodwar...those sort of things. It continues the campaign with about a third to a half of the original content for about half the price. These still exist and make sure that the game itself isn't forgotten (Blizzard does this with pretty much all their known franchises).

    "Extended versions are okay, assuming it won't mean compromising on the original version". Collectors edition, ultimate edition, limited editions, bonus-DLC-if-you-preorder...in a way, this is day 1 DLC as well. It just doesn't look like it because it's exclusive to those who pay extra. Perhaps I'm not looking into these things enough, but it seems to me as if gamers love these extra editions as long as they maintain their exclusivity to "just the elite". Or is this just something for figurines? :unsure:

    "All the extra content is fine! :D". To me, it's obvious that DLC wouldn't be around so much if it didn't sell. And while it sure could lead to situations where the main game is stripped in order to accommodate for DLC or where things are merchandised to the point of sillyness (check the extra credits video for that doom scenario), I'm not so sure that it is actually such a bad direction. You only buy DLC for a game you like, and since you can save a lot of money on steam sales (to name one), it's not like your budget won't allow for some extras.

    "Other, namely...". I'm hesitant to put this one up...I always fear that people are just going straight-out vote for this one, comment the first thing in their mind (usually totally ignoring laws of economics or effort) and not thinking about their vote. But since I'm sure people are going to reply with oneliners like "it depends on the game" anyway, I might as well mention it. By the way...that reminds me of another important thing:
    Free to play games don't count in this poll.
    It should be pretty obvious why not, but since this is gbatemp, I'll mention it anyay. So if you don't see the reason, read the following very slowly:

    So...that'll do for now. I'm curious what you all think. :)
  2. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    I firmly believe the rolling release model of software development, as has been adopted in many androis type situations and has long been the model for almost all other areas of software and product development, is the way forward. To that end I am happy to see more things go down that path.

    However it seems that much like free to play we are going to have to see many failures before someone either sits down and figures it out or hits upon it by happy accident.
  3. Dust2dust

    Dust2dust GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jun 17, 2010
    Well, not gonna make any friends saying this, but I personnally don't have anything against DLC, even day1 or on disc. You are the judge if this improves the game enough for the amount of money asked. No one forces you to buy it. It's just optional material you can get, or not. If ondisc DLC is cracked and made available for free to certain users, as has happened before, good for them. It's just basic piracy.
  4. voddy

    voddy No Title Available

    Jul 14, 2013
    United States
    Well, to be honest it depends:
    I think they should move on to the next project as soon as possible. I really hate DLC - its worthless in my eyes. Paying for 1 or 2 costumes... 1 more mission .. nah.. screw that!

    I want to see a new game with much more features maps missions or whatever. But devs should not forget about their previous games! I bought some game classics which really suck hard because of bugs that's rendering the game unplayable: e.g. Saints Row 2 (at least on windows 7 and 8) - it keeps crashing without any reason.. its like a random timer was inserted that says "well yeah.. lets crash now"

    So imo they should go on with the next game and keep an eye on reported bugs + fix them. Thats just my opinion...
  5. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    Trouble is much like pay to win is not all of free to play the extra costumes and "1 more mission" things are not all of DLC/expansion packs. In most cases they are very much the lesser versions of their respective concepts but they are not all of them.
  6. TecXero

    TecXero Technovert

    Apr 13, 2014
    United States
    I don't mind Expansion Packs, that's how I think DLC should be done. I generally don't care much for graphics or anything like that, just the gameplay and possibly the story. An Expansion Pack can give just as many hours of gameplay as the main game, but come out faster than a separate release due to assets being reused. I loved StarCraft: Brood War and Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. Unfortunately, it's abused anymore. DLC, with what it's become, is garbage, and Expansion Packs are being used to try to keep a game on life support for ten years with ridiculous prices.

    I'd love to see a company that does DLC/Expansion Packs without abusing their consumers.
  7. Celice

    Celice GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Jan 1, 2008
    United States
    Other: Take a fucking break. A lot of the consuming audience of videogames don't seem to realize how fucking hectic, stressful, and generally unhappy game development can be, especially towards the end of development.
  8. DinohScene

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    Oct 11, 2011
    Extensions and DLC is fine, as long as it isn't needed to complete the main storyline that is.
  9. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    But but but you are working in the magical games industry. If nothing else there will always be more people to take your job.
  10. WiiCube_2013

    WiiCube_2013 GBAtemp Guru

    Oct 19, 2013
    Gaza Strip
    Work on "The Lost Episodes That You Must Play To Complete the Story!! for only $9.99" 'cause ya know everyone loves DLC and Season Passes.
  11. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
    New Jersey
    Go for platinum.
    GameWinner and WiiCube_2013 like this.
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