Hacking What NAND backups does RestoreMii take?

[sfjuocekr]

Im trying to find a way to backup your NAND and be able to use the dump with RestoreMii.

Atm when I use dumped NAND it tells me its for another Wii, I'm 100% sure it from the same Wii tho ... so does it need a decrypted NAND?


Or is there a .dol/elf version of RestoreMii? (Would be a handy addition to Preloader

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[MikeyTaylorGaming]

maybe you got your NAND dump from another app on your wii, like bootmii and Wii NAND Dumper or something and restoremii only works for a NAND dumped from a certain app?

not sure though, since it is from the same wii and all.

 

[sfjuocekr]

Uuuuh RestoreMii is the little app called that comes with BootMii

But I created the NAND dumps trough other means and just want to know what I need todo to make a NAND dump without using RestoreMii and still be able to use it to restore my NAND with RestoreMii.


Henche a RestoreMii.dol/elf would be awsome as you can install it together with Preloader

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

ah yeah i see what you mean now lol

i read up on a page by bushing that if you lose your wii NAND and brick your wii and get the error the NAND is not from the same wii, then you have to reverse engineer the NAND and change keys or something.

for a while he did it for people in desperate need of it, but now he does it for like 10USD or something.

cant remember the website though sorry

whats the problem with making a NAND dump through bootmii anyways?

 

[sfjuocekr]

Thats bogus!

I just made the NAND dump, reboot to start BootMii and start RestoreMii ... all I did was rename the NAND dump I made so RestoreMii would see it.


The problem with making a NAND dump trough BootMii is that if you are not able todo a BootMii/boot2 install and have no GameCube controller at hand ... you can't use the power button to select menu's.

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

heh sorry, the way i meant was if you want to use someone else's NAND on your wii if yours is completely lost/ corrupt

sorry for the confusion

n yeah, i suppose that the controls for bootmii are a bit of a bitch if you dont have a GC control

 

[sfjuocekr]

The controlls aren't a bitch, but they simply don't work (due to a bug) in the IOS version.


So if you want to backup your NAND by other mean, you will not be able to restore via RestoreMii.


For example I made my NAND dump with RealWnD and want to restore it using BootMii's RestoreMii in the future ...

Henche that a dol/elf version of RestoreMii would be awsome as you can install it together with Preloader and use it that way for NAND restore

/edit: is there a Preloader compattible NAND dumper/flasher combination?

 

[Hells Guardian]

uses a bin file. the file must be dumped from the bootmii tool. So why the hell not just do that?

 

[nabster92]

How would you even get to restoremii in the IOS version without a GC controller in the first place?

I don't think bootmii's restoremii is compatible with any other nand dumps, give it a break though, its only the second revision and is still in public beta. They put their focus on the boot2 installation as that was the one that actually provided something useful for people to use and only the people who bought their Wii's within the past year or so can't install to boot2. I believe they said they'd put more focus into the IOS version down the line, but for now this is what they have, so you have to deal with it for now.

Your best option is to just get a GC controller. If you really don't want to buy one see if you can borrow one and just make the proper nand.bin through bootmii.

 

[sfjuocekr]

uses a bin file. the file must be dumped from the bootmii tool. So why the hell not just do that?

Well simply because it would be practical to be able to use non BootMii dumps ...


Lets say someone made a NAND dump with NAND dumper in the past/present or because he/she did not have a GameCube controller and no BootMii/boot2 install ...you can not use the power/reset/eject buttons due to a bug in the BootMii/IOS install currently.

So any NAND dumps you make would be useless with BootMii's RestoreMii,.



So are there other safe ways of dumping/flashing NAND using HBC or Preloader? Then the only dangerous step part about your Wii would be to have it brick before loading Preloader.

 

[sfjuocekr]

Your best option is to just get a GC controller. If you really don't want to buy one see if you can borrow one and just make the proper nand.bin through bootmii.

My own Wii has a BootMii/boot2 install.

Also installing BootMii/IOS is done with the WiiMote and the HackMii installer.



Im just curious about ways to flash your Wii in a safe manner ... so that you can restore NAND by either using BootMii (if possible) or another way if BootMii/boot2 is not possible ... due to lack of GameCube controller.

Some people are clearly missing the point here and trolling about "go getz gamekubez controller", but think about it ... you made a NAND dump in the past using NAND dumper and finally got BootMii installer ... your NAND dump was useless.

Some people assume dumps are the same, Ive done electronics myself and have worked with alot of programmable chips ... but this is the first time I see a dump/writing program that is not able to take other dumps ... a dump is a dump end of story ... what is the difference? There should be none ... unless something inside the dump changed between taking dumps.


/edit: RealWnW for example is able to flash ANY dump and that is how a dumper/writer should work.

So what is the real difference between the images? There should be a simple conversion possible to make any NAND (made from your system) to be flashed by BootMii's RestoreMii.

 

[tueidj]

The only thing special about the RestoreMii dumps is that they have the console-specific keys added on to the end.

 

[Hells Guardian]

Thats exactly it. the other dumps don't have the system keys included in it. Edit the old dump to include these keys and you should be able to use it. Or just say fuck it and get a GC Controller......... Honestly I would advise getting a GC controller because it has so many uses for so many things.

 

[borissaid]

Seriously, the software is free and you could probably get a GC controller for a couple bucks at a yard sale....

 

[sfjuocekr]

Some people still do not understand that I don't need a GameCube controller? As I can simply use the power/reset/eject when using the BootMii/boot2 install. Next to that I have a GameCube + controllers :s


Its just a what if situation, now lets find out what I need todo to get a RealWnR dump working

 

[nIxx]

Don´t get me wrong but why not simply use bootmii for the NAND backup and if someone have Bootmii as IOS and no GC Controller he can still get a GC Controller or wait for a update. It´s not like you can´t get a GC Controller. And by the way if you don´t have a GC Controller (and Bootmii as IOS) you can still not navigate and restore any NAND Dump so why even bother to get other NAND dumps working.

 

[sfjuocekr]

Because someone might want to restore his old NAND backup made before the BootMii hype?


In BootMii/IOS I can NOT use the buttons on the Wii:

"How do I control the BootMii menu without a WiiMote?

Use a GC pad in port 1 to navigate the menu. If you don't have one, you can use the Power button to cycle through options in the menu, and Reset to select. You just need to briefly press each button. Note: a bug in BootMii/IOS currently prevents this from working, sorry."

Quote from http://bootmii.org/faq



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Its just plain stupid to say, well fuck your old backup and make a new one with BootMii ... thats VERY shortsighted and is NOT the reason why people would backup their NAND in the first place!

Think about all the precious backups you made with NAND dumper before BootMii came out ... and they simply don't work? Thats rediculous!

/edit: typo

 

[sfjuocekr]

I found that BootMii adds its data from 21000000 to 210003FF.

 

[tueidj]

Ideally you should make frequent backups anyway since if a block in the NAND becomes unusable (bad) and that particular block in your backup holds a critical file, it won't be able to be restored.

 

[sfjuocekr]

Ideally you should make frequent backups anyway since if a block in the NAND becomes unusable (bad) and that particular block in your backup holds a critical file, it won't be able to be restored.

This chance is almost nihil and not a reason why we should NOT be able to use non BootMii NAND dumps.