Virgin Club

what if you don't want to have sex
then you prolly have not hit puberty yet because our brain is literally wired to breed
Not necessarily. Assuming you are not otherwise damaged (in which case help is probably available and in public on a forum is probably not such place) then there is the concept of asexuality http://www.whatisasexuality.com/intro/
I would agree it might well get selected out at some level, or at least enough to be rarer, but it is an option.

And if you're younger than 17, you just lack the needed maturity.
So magically upon my 17th birthday I was supposed to have gained an appreciation for what now? Age means surprisingly little, and as this is text it is very much determined by your actions. Maybe it is a probability thing at some level, I doubt it but nothing hard to back things up at this point, but I would still argue it matters little even if it is higher.
 
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Not necessarily. Assuming you are not otherwise damaged (in which case help is probably available and in public on a forum is probably not such place) then there is the concept of asexuality http://www.whatisasexuality.com/intro/
I would agree it might well get selected out at some level, or at least enough to be rarer, but it is an option.
True but as i said before, we're all familiar with how this particular person lost their mind over a video game character with wide hips and large thighs making her look perfect for birthgiving
This person is without a doubt not Asexual
 
Not necessarily. Assuming you are not otherwise damaged (in which case help is probably available and in public on a forum is probably not such place) then there is the concept of asexuality http://www.whatisasexuality.com/intro/
I would agree it might well get selected out at some level, or at least enough to be rarer, but it is an option.


So magically upon my 17th birthday I was supposed to have gained an appreciation for what now? Age means surprisingly little, and as this is text it is very much determined by your actions. Maybe it is a probability thing at some level, I doubt it but nothing hard to back things up at this point, but I would still argue it matters little even if it is higher.
Well I think cammy is still to young to know
until i was 16/17 i considered myself as asexual and then i fell in love with one girl(she was really special not just random ^^) and after i mooved on I was not anymore, I am attracted to girls for sure but i never find one attractive xD
Like in my whole life I only found 10 women attracive(physically) (if ou count stranger + internet) and actually there is only 2 that i find attractive which is the first i had feeling for and another one
but in the 10 i mentioned there is only one I finded and find both physicaly and mentally attractive and it is the first I had feelings for ^^
The others sure they are physically attractive but not mentally so I wasn't attracted as soon as i knew them :/
 
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To be honest going outside might change it all.
If you are speaking to me, i go outside a lot, have a lot of friend and most of my friends are girls, i just have way too high standards and that's why i find almost no one attractive ^^"
which is kinda fun because a bunch of girl already wanted to date me and I declined and my friend were like "Wtf x girl is so hot why you declined" but for me x girl that everyone find hot or look gorgeous looked like shit whithout even mentioning her mentality ^^"

on the oposite i already found a girl extremly attractive while everyone found her "just cute "
(that was the first i had feeling for ^^)
 
True but as i said before, we're all familiar with how this particular person lost their mind over a video game character with wide hips and large thighs making her look perfect for birthgiving
This person is without a doubt not Asexual
I'm not sure how to respond to that, but my example above was actually not intended for myself specifically.
 
being a virgin by 20 is is pretty normal man
Not in modern western society.

what if you don't want to have sex
Then you're free of desires that get in your way and make your life worse.

then you prolly have not hit puberty yet because our brain is literally wired to breed
Nope, as long as I can masturbate, I have no interest in having sex with anyone but a person that I truly love. Alkéryn seems to feel the same.

Well I think cammy is still to young to know
until i was 16/17 i considered myself as asexual and then i fell in love with one girl(she was really special not just random ^^) and after i mooved on I was not anymore, I am attracted to girls for sure but i never find one attractive xD
Like in my whole life I only found 10 women attracive(physically) (if ou count stranger + internet) and actually there is only 2 that i find attractive which is the first i had feeling for and another one
but in the 10 i mentioned there is only one I finded and find both physicaly and mentally attractive and it is the first I had feelings for ^^
The others sure they are physically attractive but not mentally so I wasn't attracted as soon as i knew them :/
In the last 5 years, I fell in love with 3 girls. One of them because she was the only person that was really nice and friendly to me in an environment where everyone was mean. Though it was only for 2 months, then I didn't see her again. I was still in love with her and 3 years later, I found her facebook profile. I found out that she's an ultra normie, so my feelings instantly stopped and I could move on from her.

The other 2 were just phsically really attractive to me (though like you said, others would probably find them "just cute"). I met one in 2012, she was 15 then, and she was just beautiful. She didn't talk much about herself, so I don't know much about her personality. It took some while but I moved on.

And then there's the last one, I met her in 2015 at a school where I did some exams for a few days, and seriously this girl is the most beautiful person I've ever met. When I first saw her just for a few seconds, I thought "wow this girl's looking really nice", but when I saw her again for a longer time, I just couldn't believe it.
She chose the same exams that I did, so I saw her every day. At one exam, she was sitting somewhere in front of me and it was really hard to keep writing instead of constantly looking at her. Sadly, I don't know her name and haven't even heard her talking even once, she was just really quite. I really want to know how she sounds like.
And then when the last day of the exams came, knowing that I will never see her again, I fell in depression and for the first time understood why people killed themselves.
I still didn't move on from her and think of her nearly every day. I really hope I will see her again, and when I do, I will talk with her, no matter how hard it is for me as a hikki. Honestly I just wish I would find her facebook profile and see that she has a bad personality. Then I could move on.

I know nobody cares, but I just had to write this.
 
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Not in modern western society.


Then you're free of desires that get in your way and make your life worse.


Nope, as long as I can masturbate, I have no interest in having sex with anyone but a person that I truly love. Alkéryn seems to feel the same.


In the last 5 years, I fell in love with 3 girls. One of them because she was the only person that was really nice and friendly to me in an environment where everyone was mean. Though it was only for 2 months, then I didn't see her again. I was still in love with her and 3 years later, I found her facebook profile. I found out that she's an ultra normie, so my feelings instantly stopped and I could move on from her.

The other 2 were just phsically really attractive to me (though like you said, others would probably find them "just cute"). I met one in 2012, she was 15 then, and she was just beautiful. She didn't talk much about herself, so I don't know much about her personality. It took some while but I moved on.

And then there's the last one, I met her in 2015 at a school where I did some exams for a few days, and seriously this girl is the most beautiful person I've ever met. When I first saw her just for a few seconds, I thought "wow this girl's looking really nice", but when I saw her again for a longer time, I just couldn't believe it.
She chose the same exams that I did, so I saw her every day. At one exam, she was sitting somewhere in front of me and it was really hard to keep writing instead of constantly looking at her. Sadly, I don't know her name and haven't even heard her talking even once, she was just really quite. I really want to know how she sounds like.
And then when the last day of the exams came, knowing that I will never see her again, I fell in depression and for the first time understood why people killed themselves.
I still didn't move on from her and think of her nearly every day. I really hope I will see her again, and when I do, I will talk with her, no matter how hard it is for me as a hikki. Honestly I just wish I would find her facebook profile and see that she has a bad personality. Then I could move on.

I know nobody cares, but I just had to write this.
Well back at the time where i first fell in love I had social anxiety was overwheight and had a lot of obsesive compulsive disorder
then after getting knocked back pretty harshly by her, since i was crazy in love with her i started to practice sport( so i loosed 30 kg in 5 month) I got rid of my social anxiety and my obsesive disorder then
I managed to be less shy and 1 year and an half after i mooved on
the fun thing is that because of her i had depression and because of that i repeat a year to end up in her class at autumn xD

Then i finally mooved on, eventually had a girlfriend but it didn't last
and then 10 month have past and here i am

I got rid of my social anxiety and i'm not shy anymore
I don't have obsesive compulsive disorder anymore
And i look pretty hot since i do about 3h of sport per day 6 times per week

Plus I now know how to speak to people and now the hardest part for me isn't to seduce anymore but to find someone I find interesting and attractive xD

anyway even if i think you shoudl have speak to this girl, it is the past and I'm the kind of guy who have no regret because it is my mistakes which made what i am today
So i think you should just try to be a better version of yourself maybe less shy or i don't know it's your job to recognize in what you could be better
so the next time you see her or maybe someone else you will be able to speak to this person but whatever don't have regret, it is your mistakes that make what you are now ^^
 
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I haven't dated a lot of people either i've only had 1 other girlfriend in the past but i am currently in a pretty good relationship
she gets the shit i deal with and doesn't get pissy when i'm cranky and vice versa, and honestly i used to be one of those people as well
never went out
didn't do sports
thought having a lover was a bother but you know what?
fuck all of that you need to get out of your shell and talk to people man, you'll be a lot happier that way
 
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Then you're free of desires that get in your way and make your life worse.
Then you're free of desires that can get in your way and can make your life worse. It is not an absolute, normally I would not have picked up on that but given your earlier replies to this thread it felt fitting. Also many people can not only manage such things but actually thrive under such conditions, whether in and of itself, as a motivation for other things or just as a baseline to move on from.
 
Since my last post in this thread, I have discovered true despair. I have lost the reasons to live and my hope of a better life is slowly fading away.

My life consists of browsing the Internet, playing games, reading mangas and watching TV and anime. I wake up, do that and then go to sleep, only to do the same the next day over and over again. For the most time this was okay, but starting in 2015, I've felt emptiness slowly coming in. And now I'm a the end of the road. None of this is entertaining or fun for me, I have stopped feeling anything. When I wake up, I want to go back to sleep because there is just no reason to live. Nothing in my life has a reason anymore and what I'm doing is pointless. (On top of that, Nintendo has permanently banned my 3DS. This too is a major loss for me, I hope hackers find a way to undo it.)

The only thing that keeps me living is the hope that everything can get better. There's nothing materialistic that could make me feel happy. In order to fix my life, I need a person that can relate to me and dedicate my life to this person. In other words, I need a girlfriend that is as much a loser as I am, dead inside and with no reason to live. Only when I meet a person that is truly like me and build my life around this person, I can get my happiness back. That is the hope.

The problem is that I have no idea how I could meet such a person. In the last few days, I went outside two times in the late afternoon. I was thinking, the person I'm looking for would probably look like this:
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(literally dead inside, an empty shell)

But then, if I see such a person and I'm thinking she could be the one I'm looking for, what would I do? How would I approach her? I only go outside when it's dark (this way nobody can observe me), how would I start talking with a girl I've never seen before, especially at that time? I still haven't come up with an answer. And with every passing day, my hope of accomplishing this gets smaller and smaller.

...And that's how it is right now. This society doesn't hold a place for me, I have no interest in being an active part of it. I need to build my own society, together with the person I'm looking for. But what will I do if I lose that hope, the only thing that keeps me living? I don't want to think about it.
At the same time, I must get a stable source of income. I do not want to further leech off my parents.

Well back at the time where i first fell in love I had social anxiety was overwheight and had a lot of obsesive compulsive disorder
then after getting knocked back pretty harshly by her, since i was crazy in love with her i started to practice sport( so i loosed 30 kg in 5 month) I got rid of my social anxiety and my obsesive disorder then
I managed to be less shy and 1 year and an half after i mooved on
the fun thing is that because of her i had depression and because of that i repeat a year to end up in her class at autumn xD

Then i finally mooved on, eventually had a girlfriend but it didn't last
and then 10 month have past and here i am

I got rid of my social anxiety and i'm not shy anymore
I don't have obsesive compulsive disorder anymore
And i look pretty hot since i do about 3h of sport per day 6 times per week

Plus I now know how to speak to people and now the hardest part for me isn't to seduce anymore but to find someone I find interesting and attractive xD

anyway even if i think you shoudl have speak to this girl, it is the past and I'm the kind of guy who have no regret because it is my mistakes which made what i am today
So i think you should just try to be a better version of yourself maybe less shy or i don't know it's your job to recognize in what you could be better
so the next time you see her or maybe someone else you will be able to speak to this person but whatever don't have regret, it is your mistakes that make what you are now ^^
Wow, losing 30kg in just 5 months is really impressive. I too was overweight, weighing about 95kg when I was 14. I will turn 19 in a month and now I'm only weighing about 67kg. Some lifestyle changes made me lose a lot of weight, mainly going vegan, not eating fast food or anything that is too greasy and only drinking tap water.

About that girl, after all this time I have now moved from her. Prior, I wanted to desperately see her, now I don't care anymore. She was pretty, but there's no chance she could understand me.

I haven't dated a lot of people either i've only had 1 other girlfriend in the past but i am currently in a pretty good relationship
she gets the shit i deal with and doesn't get pissy when i'm cranky and vice versa, and honestly i used to be one of those people as well
never went out
didn't do sports
thought having a lover was a bother but you know what?
fuck all of that you need to get out of your shell and talk to people man, you'll be a lot happier that way
Sounds nice, but for me it wouldn't work. You seem to be a normal functioning human, while I am not. Like I said before, there's no place for me in this society.
 
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Sounds nice, but for me it wouldn't work. You seem to be a normal functioning human, while I am not. Like I said before, there's no place for me in this society.
I don't talk much about it but i'm actually handicapped, I don't think that I used to have social anxiety but I got PTSD and have issues interacting with strangers, straight up ditching if there's more than 2 people
but y'know there's a lot of stuff happening to others more, things'll make a lot more sense once it finally breaks through that you are not the main character of the world, it consists of many stories a lot of them with their own hardships, now the proper technique to talking to a girl you don't know would be to just well, try to make her laugh associate talking to you with Joy get some flirting in there as early as possible as well as not to create that brother feeling but more that of a man you should try, that's all that I can say
 
As weird as this may sound, getting a job solved all my problems.
Raised eye brow* I mean I guess it makes sense, takes your mind off of things... until you get home, then its another whole ball park...
unless its night, the you can go to bed

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