Violence Male vs Female

[Veho]

I thought it was sorta entailed that you deal with drunks when you drive a bus.

But it doesn't say anywhere you have to sit still and do nothing about them.

Still, if some drunk guy (or gal) is giving you shit, just stay calm, get them off the bus, and leave.

And if, in the course of being escorted from the bus, the drunk happens to get punched in the face, it's nobody's fault but their own.

 

[Gahars]

Pulling that "they're fragile" bullshit is propaganda straight from 1950's US.

Let's be realistic here; this is an idea far, far older than the 1950s, or the United States itself. It's an idea pretty much ingrained in our cultures, and while our understanding of gender continues to shift and evolve, this idea will have to be reconciled.

 

[Blaze163]

To be fair, I know a fair few girls that can hold their own. My former best friend Amelia is by far more powerful than anything she's likely to encounter in this city. People have tried to mug her before and she's had them up against the wall by their throats before they even see her move. So while women may have a slight genetic predisposition to slightly lower physical strength, it certainly isn't enough to stop them kicking your ass if they want to.

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

One stand that exists is:
Violence against anyone, no matter how justifiable, is wrong.
That means man on man, woman on man, woman on woman, and man on woman.
A woman hitting a man is equally as wrong as a man hitting a woman.

Another stand that exists is:
"A gentleman shall never hit a lady", which I lean closer towards. Naturally, one would question the definition of a "lady". That is subjective and somewhat arbitrary, but what I think we can all agree is, not all women are considered "ladies".


Violence is wrong and it is a terrible misfortune to be involved in it. Regardless, I think men and women should be judged equally when it comes to violence.

 

[The Milkman]

Honestly, I have a personal law I follow, 'Never Strike and Lady' and I have, never struck a LADY. However, I have struck a few women. Usually of the 'Bitch' and 'Hoe' kind. Ofcourse, I show restraint when dealing with women because body wise, woman are considerably more fraglie and weaker then men. But honestly, when it comes down to whether I put up with your shit just because you got a fucking hole. Thats when I stop giving a fuck.

 

[leic7]

I don't get why you're framing what's happened in the video as a gender issue. It's not. A passenger abused an employee, the other passengers on the bus did nothing to stop the abuse but cheered on as the situation deteriated, and the employee eventually went way overboard in their reactions. That's what happened in that video you posted. You could flip the genders of everyone in that video, and it wouldn't make any difference to the description. Both the passenger and the driver would've been charged with assault either way. The idea that men (specifically) shouldn't hit women (specifically) is extremely dated, people need to learn that it's not okay to hit anyone, period.

The reason I "framed" this topic as gender vs gender is for the simple fact of what happened to him for being a man and not a women. Later an article was released that the driver who is 59 years old and worked that job for over 22 years, never had any problems got fired by a panel of females from the bus company . . . . . . . . . the passenger got paid restitution and a free ride to work. Meanwhile her past history is being locked up, shot 4 times and cut in the face all through her fighting with others. Clearly he did go overboard but she got cash and a slap on the wrist for commiting a felony and endangering the lives of others. Honestly had that been a man, he'd be behind bars.

Because I can't verify your description of the events that took place outside the video, I have to take it with a grain of salt. Were charges ever laid? It sounds like the bus company made a decision on what they'd do with their employee and customer, a decision purported by you to be based purely on the genders of the parties involved? Without actual evidence of discrimination, I don't buy it. A similar decision by the bus company could have just as easily been reached had the driver been a woman and the passenger been a man. This isn't really a gender issue, it's a customer relations issue.

 

[EMP Knightmare]

I don't get why you're framing what's happened in the video as a gender issue. It's not. A passenger abused an employee, the other passengers on the bus did nothing to stop the abuse but cheered on as the situation deteriated, and the employee eventually went way overboard in their reactions. That's what happened in that video you posted. You could flip the genders of everyone in that video, and it wouldn't make any difference to the description. Both the passenger and the driver would've been charged with assault either way. The idea that men (specifically) shouldn't hit women (specifically) is extremely dated, people need to learn that it's not okay to hit anyone, period.

The reason I "framed" this topic as gender vs gender is for the simple fact of what happened to him for being a man and not a women. Later an article was released that the driver who is 59 years old and worked that job for over 22 years, never had any problems got fired by a panel of females from the bus company . . . . . . . . . the passenger got paid restitution and a free ride to work. Meanwhile her past history is being locked up, shot 4 times and cut in the face all through her fighting with others. Clearly he did go overboard but she got cash and a slap on the wrist for commiting a felony and endangering the lives of others. Honestly had that been a man, he'd be behind bars.

Because I can't verify your description of the events that took place outside the video, I have to take it with a grain of salt. Were charges ever laid? It sounds like the bus company made a decision on what they'd do with their employee and customer, a decision purported by you to be based purely on the genders of the parties involved? Without actual evidence of discrimination, I don't buy it. A similar decision by the bus company could have just as easily been reached had the driver been a woman and the passenger been a man. This isn't really a gender issue, it's a customer relations issue.

I understand your view completely but I wrote my statement after researching the issue, my points were written after reading a few articles and watching news casts to gather said info. You can disagree it's a gender issue, by all means that's your right and opinion and I'm the last person who would tell you any different. The topic was made due to this getting out of hand slowly and happening more often than it should, if you care to look it up feel free. You may not be in NYC but I can tell you first hand, being that 98% of my family work in the law field it's happening more so each month. At the same time I am pleased of your statements/comments on this matter and I thank you for your participation in this thread. I also understand that this did not take place in NYC but my point is this, I've only seen these things happen in NYC so to see this kind of brutal attacking elsewhere now raises an eyebrow.

 

[Yumi]

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The video above shows the latest issue with Male vs Female violence, now clearly the bus driver should have stopped himself. He reacted after being spit on and slapped in the face, not to mention the verbal abuse he took for some time. In New York assaulting an MTA working is a felony punishable up to 7 years in prison. Her assault happened while the driver was operating the bus, so others were at risk. Among the people who were on the bus one had crutches and there were 3 elderly people aboard.

Oh my gosh. What is wrong with this world?
They are both at fault here. He should have just ignored her.
Or stop the bus, call police, and wait.
I don't think he deserves to get fired or sent to jail, but at least some type of suspension. As for the chica, definitely in some help/medical/therapy treatment.

But to the topic, both genders should be able to hit back no matter what sex. I mean, if that's just 1 incident out of many others, i doubt this world can correct itself any time soon (Peace and love for everyone).
If i punched a man on the face, then i would expect the same. But then again that is just silly of me to do.
I don't agree on violence at all. No one wants to die or get hurt.
But truth as we know it, it has existed and will continue to exist, no matter how evolved we are.

Male hits Female then Female can hit back.
Female hits Male then Male can hit back.
This equals Equality.

One stand that exists is:
Violence against anyone, no matter how justifiable, is wrong.
That means man on man, woman on man, woman on woman, and man on woman.
A woman hitting a man is equally as wrong as a man hitting a woman.

Violence is wrong and it is a terrible misfortune to be involved in it. Regardless, I think men and women should be judged equally when it comes to violence.

I agree with this.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I honestly think a man should never hit a woman.........first. But, should a woman hit a man, then by all means, a man should be able to hit back. Why? Equality. Women have been fighting for this right for quite some time, so, why not give it to them?

Of course, allowing to attack without any retaliation is not asking for equality. It's asking for superiority.

 

[Blaze163]

"A gentleman shall never hit a lady", which I lean closer towards. Naturally, one would question the definition of a "lady". That is subjective and somewhat arbitrary, but what I think we can all agree is, not all women are considered "ladies".

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Case and point, THAT is not a lady. Not saying that girls should be prim and proper all the time, go out and have fun, by all means. But do try to retain just a tiny bit of class. Just because you CAN be equal to guys and be piss-ass drunk in a puddle in the middle of the street doesn't make it a good fuckin' idea.

 

[DCG]

If a woman would hit me (seriously) multiple times, I will strik back :/
(will give 3 warnings though, but men will get 3 aswell )

I know one girl who can easily knock out a guy XD
So woman being weaker than men is realy a case of idividuals...


offtopic.
Watched that video multiple times XD
FALCON PUNCH!!!!

 

[1stClassZackFair]

This fight between a male and a female took place in my school two weeks ago. Skip to 0:28
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[ShadowSoldier]

Why does it seem whenever someone goes to film a fight with their phone, they suddenly develop parkinson's?

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

Case and point, THAT is not a lady. Not saying that girls should be prim and proper all the time, go out and have fun, by all means. But do try to retain just a tiny bit of class. Just because you CAN be equal to guys and be piss-ass drunk in a puddle in the middle of the street doesn't make it a good fuckin' idea.

Indeed, one could even argue that such behavior is unbecoming of a lady.

Having fun is one thing. Having fun responsibly is another, and I think we can all agree that having a little personal responsibility in everything that we do can have a pretty big positive impact.