Using Azif DNS, but PS4 downloaded game update?

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

Well, for some reason the notification just didn't exist after it stated that the download was completed. I will take a look later

 

[arabtm]

hi all. so it seems the update keeps on downloading. I think every time i start the FPKG game, it triggers the download from Sony server. the only solution that I could find is to turn of the Network, because the DNS is not blocking the game update at all.

I also wondered if the game update is deleted after it fails to install, or it is stored in PS4 directory. I haven't got the chance to check the user/patch directory.

If anybody else have an idea of what to do to block this automatic update, it would be great!
I have use the DNS, I've unticked the automatic download etc. I even use the payload to generate dummy update file. yet, the PS4 still consistenly ask for FW update (and failed) and game update (downloaded automatically, but failed to install).

is this behavior new in this 9.0.0 JB? because there is reply on this thread stating that this never happened.

 

[godreborn]

hi all. so it seems the update keeps on downloading. I think every time i start the FPKG game, it triggers the download from Sony server. the only solution that I could find is to turn of the Network, because the DNS is not blocking the game update at all.

I also wondered if the game update is deleted after it fails to install, or it is stored in PS4 directory. I haven't got the chance to check the user/patch directory.

If anybody else have an idea of what to do to block this automatic update, it would be great!
I have use the DNS, I've unticked the automatic download etc. I even use the payload to generate dummy update file. yet, the PS4 still consistenly ask for FW update (and failed) and game update (downloaded automatically, but failed to install).

is this behavior new in this 9.0.0 JB? because there is reply on this thread stating that this never happened.

I'm thinking that game updates will not even succeed with an fpkg, because they would need to be married to one another, so they'll likely always fail. the update blocker payload afaik no longer works above 5.05. it will work as long as you don't encounter a kp, but if you get a kp, the folders are deleted, leaving you open. that's why the dns is the best way to avoid updates. it should say there's a dns error if you try updating in system settings, and it won't work. as far as updates being stored on the system, that I'm not sure of. I don't know where the temp folder is located. I'm assuming that they're deleted either automatically or can be done so manually via the notifications section, since it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to leave a failed download on someone's system if they were a legit user.

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

Godreborn seems to think that only Completed and installed patches go into the user/patch directory, he said on page 1 that he's unsure where the temp folder is for holding uninstalled updates are, not sure if that helps you at all ahaha

Mine hasn't been notifying me of the update being downloaded again, but I haven't actually loaded up the game since.

The DNS DOES block PS Network and the system updates option from working. So we should be safe anyway.

 

[grabman]

The al-asif DNS doesn't block game updates from downloading apparently, though they aren't installed automatically. Same thing happened to me today!


I'm not sure, I tried to install a retail update I downloaded through PKG tool onto an FPKG installed game and the install just errored out, so I'm guessing the PS4 wouldn't be able to install the downloaded file anyway.

if you understand the dns would block the update servers if properly implemented. I think it's mostly timing when you have failed. If you watch my yt i am always online no game dl update been like this gosh for a few years now...

is this thing on?

look folks sometimes you guys fail at doing things. but it doesn't mean the advice is wrong. Sometimes it is user error. Feel free to join tonights stream ask me in chat i can clearly show i am online using online apps and my games don't dl updates if seeing is not believing i don't know what else to tell you...

 

[godreborn]

@grabman , you have no idea how the ps4 even works. you like to brag about having 2,000+ games, but so what? no one respects you for that. that's just a lot of wasted time and energy when about 80-90% of those games are shit. you do realize that the ps4 only updates the games on the home menu, not in the library, don't you? that's what, 8 games at most?

 

[grabman]

@grabman , you have no idea how the ps4 even works. you like to brag about having 2,000+ games, but so what? no one respects you for that. that's just a lot of wasted time and energy when about 80-90% of those games are shit. you do realize that the ps4 only updates the games on the home menu, not in the library, don't you? that's what, 8 games at most?

look all i know is the following and i won't waste time insulting a reptilian

for a couple of years now right if i go online with a ps4 that is jailbroken and i don't use al azif dns maaaaaan those 2000 games they START TO UPDATE brother! and let me tell you! it gets sooooo CRAZY! so CRAZY. like ok they do i suppose dl like 8 at a time but man i got a lot of games so what happens and this is so hard to like explain or relay.

small game small update right?

so like i will see like the games zoooming by man. update update update update like yo i swear godreborn it gets so crazy man. I have even streamed this accidentally at times. A huge que will form in notifications i guess you are right 8 will be actively dl. But the que for me is SO LARGE that i like can't even load it by the time like you know 10 games update!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL

so what i began to do with Beethoven which don't listen to this member of the reptilian group here what I started doing is using Al's dns and THAT STOPPED HAPPENING. Cause the update servers are blocked. Which would make perfect sense.

The reason it is a problem is because if you install retail update over fpkg the fpkg stops working so yeah do what i am telling you don't go by the previous posters

Look for the record I am pretty sure the guy doesn't play ps4 and has played little of 9.0 exploit. The proof is hours of footage on my channel and I am happy to demonstrate this on one of my several ps4s.

Ciao

 

[Hayato213]

look all i know is the following and i won't waste time insulting a reptilian

for a couple of years now right if i go online with a ps4 that is jailbroken and i don't use al azif dns maaaaaan those 2000 games they START TO UPDATE brother! and let me tell you! it gets sooooo CRAZY! so CRAZY. like ok they do i suppose dl like 8 at a time but man i got a lot of games so what happens and this is so hard to like explain or relay.

small game small update right?

so like i will see like the games zoooming by man. update update update update like yo i swear godreborn it gets so crazy man. I have even streamed this accidentally at times. A huge que will form in notifications i guess you are right 8 will be actively dl. But the que for me is SO LARGE that i like can't even load it by the time like you know 10 games update!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL

so what i began to do with Beethoven which don't listen to this member of the reptilian group here what I started doing is using Al's dns and THAT STOPPED HAPPENING. Cause the update servers are blocked. Which would make perfect sense.

The reason it is a problem is because if you install retail update over fpkg the fpkg stops working so yeah do what i am telling you don't go by the previous posters

Look for the record I am pretty sure the guy doesn't play ps4 and has played little of 9.0 exploit. The proof is hours of footage on my channel and I am happy to demonstrate this on one of my several ps4s.

Ciao

@godreborn got one thing right though, you are a showoff, who care if you got 2000 PS4 games or not, not like you actually play half of them @grabman. Wasting your time installing them and never play them.

 

[arabtm]

hi all. thanks for the helpful discussion, especially @godreborn & @MikeyTaylorGaming.

so I guess what I'm doing now is just simply turning off the network when I'm finished with installing games, until a better solution comes out for 9.0.0 JB.

otherwise the game update will keep downloading again. I know the retail update will always fail to install, but it's kind of a hassle and it consume bandwidth, which I rather use to download pkg files ^^;

I'm now copying games via FTP,so I have to keep the network on. when all games have been downloaded, I'll turn of the network.
it's been a long time I haven't got this much fun with PS4 haha...busy installing games, but no time to play ^^;

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

hi all. thanks for the helpful discussion, especially @godreborn & @MikeyTaylorGaming.

so I guess what I'm doing now is just simply turning off the network when I'm finished with installing games, until a better solution comes out for 9.0.0 JB.

otherwise the game update will keep downloading again. I know the retail update will always fail to install, but it's kind of a hassle and it consume bandwidth, which I rather use to download pkg files ^^;

I'm now copying games via FTP,so I have to keep the network on. when all games have been downloaded, I'll turn of the network.
it's been a long time I haven't got this much fun with PS4 haha...busy installing games, but no time to play ^^;

No problem at all, I'm still learning, but by helping it in turn helps me to learn more!

To be honest, you can probably turn off the internet as soon as you've got goldhen active anyway. Unless you're wanting to use the Host sites to backup your app.db or restore it there's no need for it to be on!

if you understand the dns would block the update servers if properly implemented. I think it's mostly timing when you have failed. If you watch my yt i am always online no game dl update been like this gosh for a few years now...

is this thing on?

look folks sometimes you guys fail at doing things. but it doesn't mean the advice is wrong. Sometimes it is user error. Feel free to join tonights stream ask me in chat i can clearly show i am online using online apps and my games don't dl updates if seeing is not believing i don't know what else to tell you...

You have some kind of complex talking like this... It was funny to read.

We are using the correct DNS address so this isn't a fault of us failing. It's just something that isn't prevented by that particular DNS and is not a problem.

There is no need to act so high and mighty, you just come across as an idiot.

 

[godreborn]

maybe try turning off software updates. there's an option for it in settings.

 

[arabtm]

maybe try turning off software updates. there's an option for it in settings.

I tried turning off everything, but starting games still trigger downloading the retail update ^^;
it's like the firmware 9.0.0 doesn't care about the setting anymore. it makes you force update.

No problem at all, I'm still learning, but by helping it in turn helps me to learn more!

To be honest, you can probably turn off the internet as soon as you've got goldhen active anyway. Unless you're wanting to use the Host sites to backup your app.db or restore it there's no need for it to be on!

you're right, it's better to turn off the internet. but since I'm still busy hoarding (installing) games on my PS4 external hardrive, I still need the LAN connection to be on, so I can do FTP from PC to PS4 (I have a local network connected to Internet) and then use IPI homebrew to install the PKG file from PS4 internal directory.
I have to use FTP because I don't have a spare harddrive to install PKG files unfortunately.

when the dust settles, I'll simply turn off the internet connection and I will have all the games that I wanted installed.
I just then have to figure out the time to play them ^^;

 

[godreborn]

I figured that might happen. a friend of mine turned off system updates a few years ago, and the system not only downloaded a system update, but the system updated as well. I think he was waiting for an exploit, so that was pretty much that. it seems to be a bug on all firmwares, think it might even do it to me, and I'm using a Japanese system, so it doesn't seem to matter based on region either.

 

[godreborn]

turn off internet while in rest mode is a suggestion I have though, so nothing downloads then. it's under power saving.

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

I tried turning off everything, but starting games still trigger downloading the retail update ^^;
it's like the firmware 9.0.0 doesn't care about the setting anymore. it makes you force update.


you're right, it's better to turn off the internet. but since I'm still busy hoarding (installing) games on my PS4 external hardrive, I still need the LAN connection to be on, so I can do FTP from PC to PS4 (I have a local network connected to Internet) and then use IPI homebrew to install the PKG file from PS4 internal directory.
I have to use FTP because I don't have a spare harddrive to install PKG files unfortunately.

when the dust settles, I'll simply turn off the internet connection and I will have all the games that I wanted installed.
I just then have to figure out the time to play them ^^;

Ahhh I didn't realise that you were installing that way, I'm just using a 128GB USB Stick I bought for this exact reason ahaha

And yeah... Finding time to actually play games is one of the hardest parts about this whole process I think I find more enjoyment in just doing something I know I shouldn't be doing!

maybe try turning off software updates. there's an option for it in settings.

I can vouch for this, all my update tickboxes are turned off in the settings. Anyway, it's not a huge issue so I'm just gonna either live with it and delete updates if they download, or just turn off the internet connection altogether which is more likely ahaha

 

[godreborn]

I think the ps5 may have the same problem, because my system kept trying to download and install the latest tales of arise update.

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

What's the reason that you don't want the PS5 to update your games, out of curiosity?

 

[godreborn]

I ran out of space on the internal ssd, then I turned off the internet. it still nagged about an update every time I came back from rest mode. I've since put the ps4 games on an external hdd, so I downloaded and installed the update. something that sucks is that you can't update games in the library unless they're on the home menu, which is maybe 8 games. I mean you can even on the switch, so it doesn't make sense how they had to take a giant step back with the ps5.

 

[godreborn]

you only have 600-something GBs of space on the internal ssd with the ps5 stock, and final fantasy vii remake for the ps5 along with latest update is 90GBs.

 

[godreborn]

the ps5 isn't really about graphics, as there's not a giant leap from the ps4. it's more about speed with that high end ssd, so sony has made it to where you can only play ps5 games that way, so you have next to no load times. when the power went out a few days ago due to a gas leak a few miles away, the ps5 scanned the ssd like the ps4 does, and it took less than two seconds to finish.