Hacking USB Loader... my turn ;)

[geedub]

and with 50Hz , we pal's dont want black bands at the bottom

Indeed, i actually made a longer version of the bg.png that fit my 50Hz pal screen properly, but after going from 1.3 to 1.4 and above it caused (DIR) errors.
I would love for the black bar to be addressed.

well i was one of the first / if not the first that questioned this ! but felt i was unique till jarock jumped in with answers and solutions ! dont get me wrong i beleive hungyip did ask but he's above the graphics , to me he's doing the coding and doing it great , thats why i said jarock addressed the situation well !

to be honest i was surprised shizzza never had problem , cause hes quite handy with graphics himself and never reported a problem , so why is this 50 Hz a problem with certain pal users ? or is the krauts ok ? is this a uk thing ? mind jarock is eire ( i think )

 

[geedub]

How do you suggest we fix? None of us have pal 50 to try. Also when do you have pal 50, when in widescreen with standard wii video cables? or is it still pal 50 if you use component cables and run 480p? we currently know very little about pal more so pal 50. Help us help you, brows the forums there has to be a coder with a pal 50 somewhere right?

come on evvil i posted before jarocks suggestion ! did i not ? and he suggested a universel size ! did he not ? do i really need to quote it again ?

 

[DarkunderdoG]

So running the new 7.3_1.5 this is what i get.

Wrong default background with incorrect buttons (Language where Options should be)

Covers go over the templated space

 

[TiMeBoMb4u2]

Two backgrounds I pieced together...

Enjoy!

 

[geedub]

Could one of you background making ninja's try this idea: Start with an image 790x490 (with 130x225 for covers), make your background (try to stay away from the edge a bit, the 2% gets cut for ntsc) then when your all done with the background, resize it to 640x490, then if as many pal/ntsc widescreen users could test how that works out we could have our new (and only needing 1) widescreen background standard

yes but doesnt 50Hz need to be bigger , to avoid the black band ? eg.

QUOTE(jarock @ Apr 16 2009, 09:26 PM) Here is a 50hz template for black line problem.
Based on these coords:

console_coords=40,98,350,285
covers_coords=482,135


Its widescreen 853x550.
Resize after you are finished to 640x550.
A small note: I find it's much better to add your text and button text after you have resized, as doing so before then resizing and then stretching in the loader again seems to have more blur. Now thats just my view.

Also 550 pixels seems to have a better fit for me some others 530 pixels. I would recommend doing the 550 and just keep from text running into the last 20 pixels, just the theme and colour. This way your background will be more compatible and be suitable for both.

Sorry I don't know much about 50hz so I guess 2 Standards then.

like i said , you have been told before ! or it has been mentioned before

 

[SpaceJump]

What does VIDTV Patch do?

 

[geedub]

sorry evvil
was really trying to draw your attention to jarocks statement but obviously failed lol

I would recommend doing the 550 and just keep from text running into the last 20 pixels, just the theme and colour. This way your background will be more compatible and be suitable for both.

ie he is saying make the standard bg.png bigger , so it does both ! makes sense to me !

ffs lets kill this OCD ! i want correct box art , i want correct ratio , i want cheats ( i hate cheats ) ! be happy you have a usb loader with box art ! how long are you gonna look at it like before you presss A to play ? never known so much bullshit in my life , i want this i want that well fk off and do it your self , im happy for my kids to pick a picture of mario kart and mario kart to play , even the title.txt ! wtf that about ? whats wrong , you want a real region pic and the real name ? whats wrong with you ? you dyslexic and cant understand pictures ?

come on hungyip ! ffs

 

[evvil]

like i said , you have been told before ! or it has been mentioned before

I would recommend doing the 550 and just keep from text running into the last 20 pixels, just the theme and colour. This way your background will be more compatible and be suitable for both.

shouldn't it be the last 35 pixels vertically?

This would not work be ideal for most users, anyone running: NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL 60. So why should a standard be what will work for a few users, instead of most users?

Also are you using component cables or standard wii video cables?

 

[GolfDude]

it wont let me install box art.. pushing 1 on options menu does nothing

 

[hungyip84]

So running the new 7.3_1.5 this is what i get.

Wrong default background with incorrect buttons (Language where Options should be)

Covers go over the templated space

You are right. Use another background instead. I could not find a suitable background at this moment.

 

[bula]

Two backgrounds I pieced together...




Enjoy!

Are your coordinates the same as wiishizzza's?
console_coords=40,71,340,290
console_color=7,15
covers_coords=446,109

TY

 

[geedub]

like i said , you have been told before ! or it has been mentioned before

I would recommend doing the 550 and just keep from text running into the last 20 pixels, just the theme and colour. This way your background will be more compatible and be suitable for both.

shouldn't it be the last 35 pixels vertically?

This would not work be ideal for most users, anyone running: NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL 60. So why should a standard be what will work for a few users, instead of most users?

Also are you using component cables of standard wii video cables?


not my statement mate , just quoting jarock , cause he was only one tackling our problem !

btw give me a proper hd cable and i will plug it in , now i aint going into the component cable thing ! most people dont use that so to me that aint part of the topic ........sorry ! how many ntsc users have problems with theirs ?

and if crediar was lik that , ntsc would have no preloader ! ( only comparison i could think of ,off hand lol )

QUOTE(evvil @ Apr 18 2009, 03:51 AM)

This would not work be ideal for most users, anyone running: NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL 60. So why should a standard be what will work for a few users, instead of most users?

sorry mate so your saying most users are in fact ntsc ? so fk PAL , funny we want a compromise and you want your own ? is that what your saying ? i dont believe you would say that ? i know you aint saying that evvil please rephrase

 

[9th_Sage]

I just wanted to say thanks for not only continually adding more great features to this version, but also keeping up on Wanikoko's own updates to the loader. This really is one of the best versions of the loader.

 

[sleeepy2]

OK couple of questions/issues
I am using UltimateV7_1.50
First like to thank all for the hard work. much appreciated.

Is it me or is this how it is supposed to work? When I load up the loader and the USB stick is in it just keeps counting down it never finds it. If I then unplug and plug it back in it recognizes it and I am good to go.

Occasionally it will just freeze when it loads up. Not sure what's causing it so its almost impossible to debug so I'll just kind of through it out there and just deal with it.

I can't get the covers to download. It is freezing on initializing network.

I have a wide screen tv using component cables do i need to make a separate image folder for the wide screen images? config setting is deleted so it is doing the auto detect thing?

And if any one knows which page had the black and orange background let me know as I liked the looks but can't go through all 220 pages to find it.

Thanx all

 

[snaker]

Guys do the resize work properly for you.I put my widescreen skin in wimages,i use the same coords as i used on 7 but the covers are a little bit out fo place and the skin is streched.I think there is a problem with the resize.

 

[evvil]

like i said , you have been told before ! or it has been mentioned before

I would recommend doing the 550 and just keep from text running into the last 20 pixels, just the theme and colour. This way your background will be more compatible and be suitable for both.

shouldn't it be the last 35 pixels vertically?

This would not work be ideal for most users, anyone running: NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL 60. So why should a standard be what will work for a few users, instead of most users?

Also are you using component cables of standard wii video cables?

not my statement mate , just quoting jarock , cause he was only one tackling our problem !

btw give me a proper hd cable and i will plug it in , now i aint going into the component cable thing ! most people dont use that so to me that aint part of the topic ........sorry ! how many ntsc users have problems with theirs ?

and if crediar was lik that , ntsc would have no preloader ! ( only comparison i could think of ,off hand lol )

Dude calm down! Im not saying don't make backgrounds for pal 50!!! Im just saying it should not be the overall standard, have 2 standards if anything, 1 for pal 50, and 1 for everything else. Im not trying to write off your problem man, Im just saying none of us has a way to test it to try and help. What exactly are you trying to accomplish anyhow? to get artists to make pal 50 compatible backgrounds? because yelling at me isn't going to help! you need to ask the makes themselves as they are going to backgrounds that work on there tv's. Maybe start a new thread dedicated to pal 50 widescreen so others can get on board and offer suggestions and support.

 

[geedub]

evvil i aint yelling mate ! i was actually trying to agree with you about the number of bg.png we need ! i only jumped in when you said to try that size for both , i just said it would not work ! but jarock had mentioned a size for both to try

also Pal has a 100 lines more than NTSC does it not ? so why decrease our standards ? and have a black band we dont need ?lol

also why should we start a new thread ? it was shizzza that started this thread and he has PAL lol go get an ntsc thread of your own lol

 

[evvil]

sorry mate so your saying most users are in fact ntsc ? so fk PAL , funny we want a compromise and you want your own ? is that what your saying ? i dont believe you would say that ? i know you aint saying that evvil please rephrase


NO! Im saying PAL 60 NTSC and NTSC-J all use the SAME size background thats it, i never said f anything, you need to chill out man, Im trying to help figure out the best way to support this, you really need to stop attacking me.

QUOTE(geedub @ Apr 17 2009, 10:25 PM) evvil i aint yelling mate ! i was actually trying to agree with you about the number of bg.png we need ! i only jumped in when you said to try that size for both , i just said it would not work ! but jarock had mentioned a size for both to try

also Pal has a 100 lines more than NTSC does it not ? so why decrease our standards ? and have a black band we dont need ?lol

also why should we start a new thread ? it was shizzza that started this thread and he has PAL lol go get an ntsc thread of your own lol

He also uses component cables! make a background that will work for everyone and show us what we need to do! im not trying to act like I know anything about pal, So you or anyone show us all how to make a universally compatible widescreen background so we can end this topic. please

 

[geedub]

i decided to edit this , due to the fact i think / know evvil and i are on the same side and looking for the same goal ! we just worded it wrong !

this thread is bigger than us so i and im sure evvil aint getting into a slanging match !

we both think / want a universel size for both 4:3 and 16:9 if thats possible ( 50Hz ofcourse )! also along with matching box art !

like i said before i aint that anal , that i need correct region , i dont need cheats , couldnt care if its slightly out of proportion ! as im sure the majority dont either , so i think hungyip has it nailed as far as im concerned !

like i said you cant please everyone , so fk them ! no bugs wins for me ! get no bugs then add new things if needed....simple

 

[evvil]

Ok lets start all over, Im done arguing with everyone! For universally compatible (widescreen) background try this: Start with an image 790x550 make your background (try to keep all important bits in 790x480 in direct center) then when complete resize it to 640x550. Lets try and see if this will work for everyone

***790 because tv pixels are rectangular and pc are square)*** (you pal guys normally have 854x550 correct?)

we both think / want a universel size for both 4:3 and 16:9 if thats possible ( 50Hz ofcourse )! also along with matching box art !

Agreed! but 16x9 and 4:3 need to be made a little bit differently, no way around it, all homebrew gets stretched for widescreen so we start with larger image, make, then resize and it looks right when stretched in widescreen.