FIXED Trusted "Developer" User type and Color

Discussion in 'Site Discussions & Suggestions' started by Dartz150, Sep 12, 2019.

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Do you agree with this petition?

Poll closed Sep 19, 2019.
  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
    40.5%
  2. No

    20 vote(s)
    54.1%
  3. I don't really know/care

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
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  1. Dartz150
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    Given the circumstances that had affected the scene for various consoles lately, it would be nice to know which threads and users are truly reliable given their reputation.

    That's why I would like to suggest this feature, it doesn't mean that the user gets special rights, it's only some kind of label, so new users and anyone can identify which people is reliable for homebrew/programs of their consoles.

    The parameters to get this label should be stablished by the Admins of GBATemp, a suggested requisite by me would be to have at least two or more projects an official Github account, or have the distintive on their own project threads only (Something like the "OP" tag).

    This would be an example, sorry for my crapy edition skills:

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  2. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

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    It was toyed with before for hacking instruction where wrong steps lead to bricks. However it does not solve the out of date issue and does not solve the "fuck the world, someone is going down with me" problem.

    Still the thing could be revisited so discuss away.
     
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  3. Jiehfeng

    Jiehfeng Netti Netti

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    What if the labeled developer does something wrong, intentionally or not?
     
  4. Dartz150
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    Insta-permaban obviously. Also, it could be discussed which other requisites should be met to apply for the label, such as post count, time in the forums and warn status.
     
  5. Jiehfeng

    Jiehfeng Netti Netti

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    Would that remove the damage already caused by trust due to the label though?
     
  6. Ryccardo

    Ryccardo and his tropane alkaloids

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    Voted no - not interested in a reactionary measure to attempted attention whoring, as well the fallacy (for the already mentioned reasons) of appeal to authority instead of reviewing the product for how it performs
     
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  7. zoogie

    zoogie playing around in the dsiware

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    It's kinda shitty that you can get a special title for giving money to the site, but not for creating software that attracts people to this site to begin with.

    This site's traffic is largely driven by hacking and homebrew; and if nobody is creating cfw, hax, emulators, etc, there would be no community to speak of.
     
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  8. Sono

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    I'd say "no". from experience. When I was permabanned from NH (3DShacks at my time), I realized that "good developer" is objective (I hope I'm not using the word wrong).

    I don't want to go into the details, but I don't want to see "political code" spread around by a "trusted developer".
    And I also wouldn't trust myself either after the OCDM incident.
     
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  9. zoogie

    zoogie playing around in the dsiware

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    You bring up a good point here.
    I think instead of prefacing 'Developer' with 'trusted' or anything else, just have 'Developer' only, and remove the title if the dev acts in an unethical (or rule-breaking) manner to any extreme degree. This should be true with any earned title, tbo. Even patreons.
     
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  10. Jiehfeng

    Jiehfeng Netti Netti

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    At that point would it really matter to have a title in the first place? A dev who can be recognized immediately by the community is enough imo, it already happens without such titles and by comparison, not having a title and still being recognized is a bigger deal wouldn't you say?
     
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  11. zoogie

    zoogie playing around in the dsiware

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    I wouldn't personally care if I had a title here, but some people do. I know that's it's a standard practice in most hacking/homebrew communities to award titles to devs, and the fact that this place doesn't makes it stick out.

    If you aren't aware, GBAtemp has an absolutely terrible rep with established devs (for different reasons I admit). It couldn't hurt if GBAtemp starts to officially recognize them even if it's 'too little, too late'. Remember, this place considers donating $1/month worthy of a special title, so the lack of such recognition for folks who spend 100's of hours making software that translates into millions of page hits is remarkable.
     
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  12. Jiehfeng

    Jiehfeng Netti Netti

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    You make an irrefutable point there.
     
  13. Wiimpathy

    Wiimpathy GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I don't know exactly but that's more 1000's in my case. Fortunately, when you're developping free softwares you know you can't expect much in return. But I have to admit that with all this precious time given even for shitty code, I wouldn't be against a little present from gbatemp. Even a bloody mug!:)
     
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  14. Jiehfeng

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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves, baby steps. ;o;
     
  15. VinsCool

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    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    However this may be a little redundant --trusted people are pretty much well known already.

    Then again the patreon users get a special title, so why not.
     
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  16. NoNAND

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    Hey that's not a bad idea at all!
    I could see how cool the developer badge would look on @XorTroll or @CTCaer
    But, I don't think that simply because does little coding, ports an app or something would be worthy of something as such.
    Only devs that have developed something of significance that includes but not limited to CFWs Title installers, NAND/bootloader multipurpose tools etc to name a few should receive such status.
     
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  17. Jiehfeng

    Jiehfeng Netti Netti

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    It depends yeah. It's like saying everyone who posts on the user submitted news would be labeled as reporter or so. So yeah, it needs to be significant.

    I would propose a program where members opt in to a developer type arrangement, where once you register, a reputation system (maybe even likes on a thread marked as a release) would have you earn a dev title at one point, similar to what we have as XP. It could even be an extension of it. That way theoretically the community decides who deserves the title by majority of vote.
     
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  18. NoNAND

    NoNAND Spirit of the steppe

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    That's the point! Members of the community should vote and decide who is worthy of such a title.
     
  19. ghjfdtg

    ghjfdtg GBAtemp Fan

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    That system breaks as soon as we are getting into opinions. Prominent example: Devs not wanting to code or contribute to piracy tools. Then the crybabies "downvote" them for no reason.
     
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  20. zoogie

    zoogie playing around in the dsiware

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    That's another good point. I think a quantifiable method to determine if someone gets dev status would be in order.
    Maybe a certain viewcount threshold for a release thread(s) or Github stars would work. Then the developer PMs a mod or admin and ask permission for the title, if they so choose. If they meet the minimum requirements and they are in good standing by lack warning points, they get the title.

    It wouldn't be a perfect method (especially for outdated/unpopular platforms), but there needs to be some line drawn or anyone who writes "Hello World" would get it, or it would be a popularity contest with whoever does the judging.
     
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