Think I Bricked My O3ds, help please!

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  1. lordkramGB
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    Ok so i've managed to downgrade consoles before with no problems, managed to get my o3ds downgraded to 9.2, and wanted to setup OTP for the A9LH installer (gateway 3ds) so I decided to try and use plaiSysUpdater to downgrade straight to 2.10
    I used GW to backup my sysnand, then using menuhax booted into plaiSysUpdater and went to downgrade to 2.10 option
    I made sure I had the correct files in update folder etc on the root of the card.
    plaiSysUpdater checked all the files and came back as OK, the downgrade process started and all files went to OK until it got to the end when I got a Nintendo error screen came up (no complete message etc)
    I then rebooted and now nothing happens just a black screen
    I can boot into recovery mode, but its pointless as I don't want to update to latest 11.0 as i would still have to get a hardmod to downgrade back to 9.2
    Question is can I do anything to get my o3ds back running without a hardmod?
    Is there a way to restore my sysnand that was backed up on my sd card, or would that possibly be the reason why it bricked in the first place?
    Help!
     


  2. gamesquest1

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    have you tried removing the SD card and booting?

    a blackscreen after downgrading to 2.1 is common, you usually just remove the SD and it will boot fine
     
  3. Xenon Hacks

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    That's why you follow the guide you were supposed to downgrade RedNAND not Sysnand.
     
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    tbh for a o3ds i have skipped straight to downgrading sysnand iirc, its not like on a n3ds where the encryption has to be fixed, a o3ds should be compatible with 2.1 by default

    that said if your not 100% sure you have a recovery plan you should follow the guide exactly, im wondering if he stayed in GW mode when doing the downgrade, as GW mode causes issues with updating/downgrading nativefirm, so you cannot use GW mode for the downgrade stage
     
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    lol I just noticed it was you I was about to tag you saying you had a customer :P
     
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    lets see, hopefully he just forgot to remove the SD card after downgrading, but im thinking its the GW issue, i did exactly the same on one console, i completely forgot that GW messes with upgrade/downgrades to sysnand and i ended up bricking by trying to save time :sad: (my laziness ended up taking up more time xD)
     
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    Yeah OTP helper probably would have said that RedNand was bad because of Gateway.
     
  8. lordkramGB
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    Yeah I have tried removing both sd and gw card but system still won't boot
    I can access recovery mode though so is there hope without a hardmod?
    Edit I definitely wasn't in GW mode when trying to downgrade as I booted into hbl using menuhax then opened the plaisystemupdater app
     
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    As far as I know, 4.0b removes FIRM protection. However, if he used 3.7.1 that still has it, and would def cause a brick. (Fun fact, using the GW's a9lh.bin on 3.7.1 will remove FIRM protect on that, as discovered by Kazuma77)

    Anyways, you're def bricked. Hardmod only. At least you have a sysNAND backup.
     
  10. lordkramGB
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    What will having a hard mod do for me in the long run? I was confident in doing this downgrade etc as I've done similar things with a psp in the past (different I know)
    I originally tired to use the GW guide for the latest beta to try and install the AL9H so my 3ds would boot straight into GW3ds mode but the guide they gave on their site didn't make sense so that's why I tried to downgrade straight to 2.1 from 9.2
     
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    why were you downgrading sysnand? there is a safer guide. you downgrade emunand then flash emunand to sysnand.
     
  12. lordkramGB
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    Wish I'd known that before but since I've had no problems with stuff before I thought I could do it this time around obviously not!
    Is it worth still trying to update using recovery mode so I can at least get back into my 3ds?
     
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    Updating to any version above 6.x on 2.x will brick your 3DS.

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    Use a cart that has a 4.x update pack on it to go back to 4.5 and restore the NAND backup. Or you can update back to 9.2 from there.
     
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    Mistakes can happen. You will be stuck on 11.0 without any downgrade method, if you use recovery mode.

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    Think you got confused a bit there mate. That is not possible in the OP's situation right now.
     
  15. lordkramGB
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    So what do I do next? And how would I go about getting what I wanted to do originally working?
     
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    you will need a hardmod to get back to where you wanted to go, or just update to 11.0 and hope something changes in the future
     
  17. lordkramGB
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    Ok think I'll have to do the mod then
    I've seen that you offer this sevice is that correct?
     
  18. Aletron9000

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    tough break
     
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    Following guides, saves lives :D (In all seriousness, you need to Hardmod or quit and upgrade to 11)
     
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    If you knew about this forum I can't imagine how you could have missed Plailect's guide, it is mentioned in like 90% of posts.