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[K3Nv4]

I think it's more so

1. strong IP
2. Have a physical storefront presence

With #1 doing the heavy lifting

Yeah they have strong IPs and what not which Steam is more so just a front for ports and to buy games they don't really have a huge list of IPs. Still I think there are more children gamers that would rather have a new Nintendo console than move from switch to PC after they get older and a job and realize how more open it is. Not to say there aren't 30 year olds and up that go out and buy new switches gbatemp proved that. I just feel like at the end of the day Nintendo wants to target younger audiences, that's why they don't have to have blood, guts, gore all throughout their games.

 

[SylverReZ]

Epic gives out way better free titles than the indie free in game purchase crap steam offers tbh.

At least, for one, Steam makes a launcher that works 50% of the time lol. And Steam isn't even that stable, not even close; everybody else has done a launcher worst with Electron that'll use up resources. The reason why Steam has a better storefront than anywhere else is because the rest, like, EA Origin and Epic don't have anything close to good games, imo, and it's not just that; they're a big IP like Nintendo, so that, people would trust them more to buy digital titles.

 

[Noctosphere]

Valve total equity: 10 billion USD
Nintendo total equity: 17 billion USD
Nintendo total assets: 22 billion USD

Valve annual revenue: 5 billion USD
Nintendo annual revenue: 14 billion USD

Just blatantly silly and false to make it seem like Steam is doing better than Ninty

But I guess the may may isn't funny unless you are disingenuous

Edit: slightly different numbers depending on the year, but every source agrees Nintendo is bigger

The bigger shock is valve barely makes more than epic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_video_game_companies_by_revenue

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I just don't see how sylver's meme says that Steam is bigger or wealthier than Nintendo/Epic. It just says that Steam is the good guys and Nintendo the bad guys
Bonus point : Piracy actually had a huge decrease around 2012 (due to Netflix becoming the main plateform for streaming, but piracy increased by a lot since everyone else launched their own streaming plateform (disney+, prime video, HBO+, AMC+, Crave, etc.)

 

[SylverReZ]

Just blatantly silly and false to make it seem like Steam is doing better than Ninty

It's silly because people think that every company trying to be the next Steam is a monopoly, like, not understanding what is a monopoly even is. The context to this meme, is that, Valve was sued by the UK courts because they insinuated that Steam is bad for consumers.

 

[x65943]

I just don't see how sylver's meme says that Steam is bigger or wealthier than Nintendo/Epic. It just says that Steam is the good guys and Nintendo the bad guys
Bonus point : Piracy actually had a huge decrease around 2012 (due to Netflix becoming the main plateform for streaming, but piracy increased by a lot since everyone else launched their own streaming plateform (disney+, prime video, HBO+, AMC+, Crave, etc.)

I moreso was discussing the part "why do you have all the customers?"

It makes it seem like the other companies are failing

 

[Noctosphere]

It's silly because people think that every company trying to be the next Steam is a monopoly, like, not understanding what is a monopoly even is. The context to this meme, is that, Valve was sued by the UK courts because they insinuated that Steam is bad for consumers.

A monopoly can be a lot of things, legally speaking. For example, one point in the lawsuit is that consumers who buy their games on steam are "forced" to also buy their DLCs on Steam. That kind of argument was used against Apple in a monopoly case, since if you used Mac, Iphone, Ipad, Ipod (yea, I'm that old), Iwatch, Ifuckaround, etc. you were stuck with Apple pretty much forever, as a consumer. That is one kind of monopoly.
Another type of monopoly is being so big that this fact alone can prevent any competition. This was also used against Microsoft decades ago, with the dominance of Windows of the market.
Also, a monopoly doesn't mean "one company has all the power over a specific market". A monopoly can also be shared between more than one company. In the province of Quebec, there is only two internet service provider: Bell and Videotron. All the other ISPs you can find here are either subsidiaries of one of those two, or have a contract with one of them. Because of that, there is no point for neither Bell or Videotron to improve their services. One has a very shitty tech support (good luck if your stuff ever cease to run fine), the other offer a shitty internet (less than 1gbps in download, capped at 50mbps in upload, for about 125$/month). Even if there is two companies, this is still a monopoly.

 

[Xzi]

I think it's more so

1. strong IP
2. Have a physical storefront presence

With #1 doing the heavy lifting

Bigger factor is that Nintendo has been selling consoles and games since at least 1985. Steam didn't exist until 2003.

 

[x65943]

Bigger factor is that Nintendo has been selling consoles and games since at least 1985. Steam didn't exist until 2003.

And Tencent was founded in 1998 - but makes nearly 3x the revenue of Nintendo

Sega founded in 1965 and makes half what valve makes

If valve was like 5 years old maybe this would be a valid argument - but steam has been around over 20 years and is about on par with epic in terms of revenue

I think your statement about when companies were founded being the biggest factor is not quite right

 

[Xzi]

And Tencent was founded in 1998 - but makes nearly 3x the revenue of Nintendo

Sega founded in 1965 and makes half what valve makes

If valve was like 5 years old maybe this would be a valid argument - but steam has been around over 20 years and is about on par with epic in terms of revenue

I think your statement about when companies were founded being the biggest factor is not quite right

TBF it's impossible to make an apples to apples comparison here regardless. Valve is the only privately-owned company of the lot, and Tencent/Epic don't have any "primary" platform to call their own. Valve blows all the others out of the water when it comes to customer good will, but mobile game revenue dwarfs that of consoles and PC.

 

[x65943]

TBF it's impossible to make an apples to apples comparison here regardless. Valve is the only privately-owned company of the lot, and Tencent/Epic don't have any "primary" platform to call their own. Valve blows all the others out of the water when it comes to customer good will, but mobile game revenue dwarfs that of consoles and PC.

Again tho I think Nintendo dominates because of its IP

I think we can agree most other studios could probably make a better Pokemon game

 

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[x65943]

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