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Health and Safety laws. Protective or Restrictive?

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    Health and Safety laws. Criticized for being too closed-up, parodied and too full of bureaucracy. You need lots of paperwork done to film a man fall down the stairs purposefully. Is it restrictive? But without them, people probably wouldn't live to such an old age. They protect people by setting rules and regulations for food at the restaurant so you don't get poisoned by cockroach shit. So does it protect?
     


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    For the most part, I'd guess most safety laws are only put in place to protect companies from lawsuits. People will holler about some unfair whatever and a law gets made to shut them up.
     
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    Not really health and safety laws then, right?
     
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    I'd say protective, you don't know how stupid some people are. [​IMG]
     
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    Some Health and Safety laws are noting but bullshit. I live on a farm and the amount of health and safety paperwork to be done is unreal, and so are some of the laws.
    1. you cannot stack bales of ay more than three high.
    2. you cannot spread slurry during january (when it is badly needed for the soil)
    There are loads of them, so IMO Health and Safety laws are Restrictive.
     
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    Your avatar, albeit fake, is a good example of H&S.
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    Well - That Kinda thing IS restrictive, cause from what I see, they're pointless - I mean - hay? how could that possibly harm anyone? But then again - you nevr do know. As Balthier from Final Fantasy XII said (Yes, I'm Sad, I remember Final Fantasy Quotes)" The world Is Always Coming up with new ways to kill a man" I guess it may take a fatality before we realise how valuable those rules are.
     
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    For the most part I agree with H+S regulations, but there are some which don't really make sense to me. For example, in this first week of work I've just finished, one such regulation meant we had to put stepladders away the second we're finished with them, which I can understand since when this wasn't observed a very dumb kid ran straight up one such ladder and very nearly fell off. And if he had, he'd inevitably have cracked his head open on the bench we have for testing shoes.

    On the other hand we have another rule about the footballs we have in store, no bounching them within the store. While I can kind of understand it as the ball could get awa from the owner and fly off somewhere, introducing an 'unstable element' into the environment with the potential for all kinds of chaos, I think it's a little harsh. Especially when the job of telling the many kids being dragged around the store with only the ball to keep them sane about this rule and explaining that they have to carry it and nothing else generally falls to muggins here. I feel like such an arse hole telling a five year old to stop bouncing the ball he's paying his precious pocket money for.
     
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    Health and Safety laws are fairly dumb IMO. No one ever reads the H&S guidelines, or things like that. And even then, most - if not all - of them are so obvious, I mean, who will ever EAT a game disc/console/whatever? You already have to be either mentally challenged or under 2 years of age t do that, and if that's the case, you most likely aren't capable of understanding written speech.

    Unless we're talking about traffic, of course, H&S is necessary there.

    And now to answer the topic question: I believe they are overly protective. Sometimes you could consider them restrictive (like in traffic), but most of the times it is for your own good. Even if that makes things happen slowlier or more difficult than without being conform to the H&S guidelines.

    Key word obviously being guidelines, as most of the times it is just to inform you about the possible dangers that might occur when doing this or that.
     
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    The things we eat have to be regulated, especially now with all the harmful chemicals that can be put into our food, we need to know what should be put in our food. It's all about living longer, which I'd say is productive and protective.
     
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    Depends.
    Sometimes, Health and Safety laws are necessary. Think about resturants. Without the laws, resturants would be able to run without inspection allowing germs and other stuff to go in our food. Most of the time, it's restrictive, though with the government babying us.
     
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    Of course, but don't you think that those thoughts are nearly always correct? The odds of anything happening are so minimal, there can't go anything wrong unless you really fuck up bad.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Ah yes, I hadn't thought of it that way. I'll have to agree with you on that. (Quick, somebody post something stupid so I can give counter-arguments again!)
     
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    Done.
    Hmm... what's the irony on this, could you explain?
     
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    >stupid people
    >you agreeing with the post

    'Nuff said.
     
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    LOL are you calling me stupid, how ironic (double irony [​IMG] )
     
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    I don't get it.
     
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    Of course you don't Ellie [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah.

    Just get out of here already before you make even more of a fool of yourself.
     
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