Gaming System Version

[torakuma]

Hi Guys, I know how to find what version is on the Wii, however can someone please tell me where it's retained and what part would have to be replaced to change it, if in fact it could be done. ( Example: 4.3 to 4.2, 4.1, etc. )

 

[Fudge]

You can it under the first page of the System Settings in the top right corner of the screen.

 

[Zorua]

That's not what he's asking. He's asking if there's a way to spoof it, if I'm not wrong.

 

[JoostinOnline]

It can't as far as I know. Why do you even want to know?

 

[Taleweaver]

Hmm...I know that Waninkoko has his own firmware version that says "4.3W" or something. I don't know how he did that, but my guess would be he just hex-edited the 4.3 system menu a bit (no, I have no idea how to do it).

But it really doesn't matter. Games that come with a certain firmware don't check on what that system settings page says but on the version number of your IOS'es. If that comes up with an IOS with a version that's lower than what they have, it will tell you that 'your firmware' is out of date. There have been reports of 4.3 users where a game said it was out of date, because IOS249 (the official stub one) has a version nr. of v65280...which is higher than most cIOS version numbers.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Hmm...I know that Waninkoko has his own firmware version that says "4.3W" or something. I don't know how he did that, but my guess would be he just hex-edited the 4.3 system menu a bit (no, I have no idea how to do it).

But it really doesn't matter. Games that come with a certain firmware don't check on what that system settings page says but on the version number of your IOS'es. If that comes up with an IOS with a version that's lower than what they have, it will tell you that 'your firmware' is out of date. There have been reports of 4.3 users where a game said it was out of date, because IOS249 (the official stub one) has a version nr. of v65280...which is higher than most cIOS version numbers.

It checks the MIOS, BC, boot2, System Menu, and IOS versions. If any of those are out of date it does and update, overwriting anything that is old. It skips anything that is of the same version or higher.

I was one of the original testers of System Menu X, which had the version number of 4.1 maxed out at 65535 so that no disc could overwrite it, but IOS's could be updated.

 

[torakuma]

Thanks for your replies, however I think you are all missing my question. I'm not asking How?, I'm asking WHERE is this information retained on the Wii? Motherboard, Wi-Fi board, Disk drive, etc. ??

 

[person66]

I believe it would be somewhere on the NAND flash chip

 

[giantpune]

Thanks for your replies, however I think you are all missing my question. I'm not asking How?, I'm asking WHERE is this information retained on the Wii? Motherboard, Wi-Fi board, Disk drive, etc. ??

i think you might be misunderstanding how the wii firmware version system works. the answer to you question is easy. the version string is compiled into the system menu executable itself. IIRC, it is stored in big-endian, 16bits per character. this executable is stored on the nand. you can patch the binary directly to change the string, or change it with preloader/startpatch hacks, as these are also patches for the system menu executable.

however, changing this version string will not affect anything at all other than what is displayed on the screen when you enter the settings. the entire update system is independent of this version string: you will not spoof or bypass any updates. games have absolutely no access to this version string: you will not convince any game that you are using a different firmware by patching this string.

 

[Taleweaver]

Thanks for your replies, however I think you are all missing my question. I'm not asking How?, I'm asking WHERE is this information retained on the Wii? Motherboard, Wi-Fi board, Disk drive, etc. ??

...and you're missing our question. We're asking WHY you want to know this question. After all, "installing another firmware version" can be as simple as using modmii to download a system menu (option 1, then take your pick) and installing it with a wad manager. But at best it doesn't do anything, and the chances of bricking your wii are quite high. Especially if you don't know what you're doing (and if you have to ask where the system menu is stored...well, no offense, but I think you're missing the basics for this kind of operation).

 

[torakuma]

Thanks for all your replies folks. In answer to your question "WHY" do I want to know. In my 75 years I have gained quite a bit of knowledge by asking questions on subjects I was not familiar with. This is just another one of these subjects. I have read many posts where gamers have attempted to mod their 4.3 and above versions and have complained they did not have the original games to complete said modification & I was curious as to whether or not a "Hard Part" could just be changed to facilitate said Mod. In other words,4.3 to 4.2. As for myself, I would need a new pair of eyes and two more hands to do any soldering work on a circuit board. Happy Wiiing.

 

[Taleweaver]

I see. That's a fair answer. Unfortunately, in this case, this is a problem of those users. It's not that hard to get a hold of those exploitable games, especially not on the internet. Those complaints are a luxury problem: they just don't want to fork up the money to buy ONE game when it's just easier to complain enough in the hopes that someone smarter than them gives in and releases a new version of bannerbomb*. Unfortunate for them, complaining won't work that well against technical difficulties.






*bannerbomb was an exploit on system menu's 4.2 and lower that didn't require any game whatsoever. The exploit it used is, however, fiexed

 

[JoostinOnline]

I see. That's a fair answer. Unfortunately, in this case, this is a problem of those users. It's not that hard to get a hold of those exploitable games, especially not on the internet. Those complaints are a luxury problem: they just don't want to fork up the money to buy ONE game when it's just easier to complain enough in the hopes that someone smarter than them gives in and releases a new version of bannerbomb*. Unfortunate for them, complaining won't work that well against technical difficulties.






*bannerbomb was an exploit on system menu's 4.2 and lower that didn't require any game whatsoever. The exploit it used is, however, fiexed

Ugh, I get so sick of newbies whining because they don't want to pay $5 to rent a game.