I'm really excited for the new Donkey Kong but I'm absolutely not spending $80 on it. Ideally the switch 2 gets hacked and a decent emulator comes out 2-3 years down the line and I play it on that. Other than that I'm planning to buy a switch 2 if i can find it on sale (fat chance) or get a used/refurbished one that's marked down significantly. Maybe if they make a lite version I'll get that? Idk, waiting to see what hacks come out in the following year before I make a decision.
Costco has the new Donkey Kong for $63 on a pre-order (it is $70, not $80, normally). That's around $48 in 2017 dollars. So if you were okay with $50 games when the Switch 1 launched, you should have no issue whatsoever with paying $65 for them now since that is the same price (ask an economist if you don't believe me).
The Switch 2 won't be getting hacked, and thus there won't be emulators 2 or 3 years from now (LOL!) and your PC probably couldn't handle Switch 2 emulation anyway as the GPU is far more advanced (RTX 2050 level) than Switch 1, and emulating that requires a lot more than a 3080.
Hope is good, but expecting things this soon, is really outside of reality. Sure we have the pixel userland rop showing that custom stuff can run but... we are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy out of town still. For reference;
So if you were okay with $50 games when the Switch 1 launched, you should have no issue whatsoever with paying $65 for them now since that is the same price (ask an economist if you don't believe me).
so cool
while i'm busy asking an economist, tell me: how much have wages increased
because, y'know, i need to make the money to purchase the video games
i assume there has been growth at least in line with that inflation, because otherwise there'd be a cost-of-living crisis
i live under a rock so i have no idea, could you help me find out
Hope is good, but expecting things this soon, is really outside of reality. Sure we have the pixel userland rop showing that custom stuff can run but... we are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy out of town still. For reference;
No offence but at this rate I doubt an emulator or jailbreak will be much useful, you see most Switch 2 games are either digital or "digital" with only a handful first party ones being truly physical, since Switch 2 systems are getting fully bricked by Nintendo if you so much sneeze on it at this rate it won't be easy to obtain the data to said games, this is a Stadia like situation (not exactly but you get the point) and I have a feeling the Switch 2 will end up selling poorly as the generation goes on.
No offence but at this rate I doubt an emulator or jailbreak will be much useful, you see most Switch 2 games are either digital or "digital" with only a handful first party ones being truly physical, since Switch 2 systems are getting fully bricked by Nintendo if you so much sneeze on it at this rate it won't be easy to obtain the data to said games, this is a Stadia like situation (not exactly but you get the point) and I have a feeling the Switch 2 will end up selling poorly as the generation goes on.
Those systems had the games on cartridge, I'm not saying the system will never get hacked or get emulated but it seems obtaining the game data won't be easy and I suspect several games will end up getting delisted before this happens, closest situation I remember to this was the Gamecube where outside the crappy PSO exploit rips we couldn't get proper dumps until the Wii era, for years most Rom sites had bad dumps of GC games, of course the GC had all the game data inside the disc so we managed to dump and preserve those games, Switch 2's "Game Key Cards" won't have this luxury.
Edit: I just thought of a better example, Game Key Cards situation is very similar to the Satellaview, many years from now when we finally get a proper Switch 2 emulator it'll be a hunting game to find systems that happen to have this game or that game and good luck being able to dump the data successfully.
Those systems had the games on cartridge, I'm not saying the system will never get hacked or get emulated but it seems obtaining the game data won't be easy and I suspect several games will end up getting delisted before this happens, closest situation I remember to this was the Gamecube where outside the crappy PSO exploit rips we couldn't get proper dumps until the Wii era, for years most Rom sites had bad dumps of GC games, of course the GC had all the game data inside the disc so we managed to dump and preserve those games, Switch 2's "Game Key Cards" won't have this luxury.
Edit: I just thought of a better example, Game Key Cards situation is very similar to the Satellaview, many years from now when we finally get a proper Switch 2 emulator it'll be a hunting game to find systems that happen to have this game or that game and good luck being able to dump the data successfully.
As I said, there has been no issue getting games from the shops. They are stored on the device. Once the device is hacked it's open season. Games being on cart or from the shop won't matter
Costco has the new Donkey Kong for $63 on a pre-order (it is $70, not $80, normally). That's around $48 in 2017 dollars. So if you were okay with $50 games when the Switch 1 launched, you should have no issue whatsoever with paying $65 for them now since that is the same price (ask an economist if you don't believe me).
No offence but at this rate I doubt an emulator or jailbreak will be much useful, you see most Switch 2 games are either digital or "digital" with only a handful first party ones being truly physical, since Switch 2 systems are getting fully bricked by Nintendo if you so much sneeze on it at this rate it won't be easy to obtain the data to said games, this is a Stadia like situation (not exactly but you get the point) and I have a feeling the Switch 2 will end up selling poorly as the generation goes on.
I know there different consoles but I think yuzu was announced during the first year of the switch, so who knows what will happen especially if the Mario kart thing and switch firmware vulnerability thing that happened is real, if something could actually be done with that.
I know there different consoles but I think yuzu was announced during the first year of the switch, so who knows what will happen especially if the Mario kart thing and switch firmware vulnerability thing that happened is real, if something could actually be done with that.
There are a multitude of reasons it happened to the Switch so fast
Hardware exploit that was unpatchable and was the fault of Nvidia
stock chipset that was already understood made emulation significantly easier
Much weaker hardware was easier for people to run
Also that claim about the exploit and such is 100% false. That ROP thing was true but that's completely useless without a true kernel exploit alongside it. HOS is an insanely secure OS and the last time we truly had a software-level kernel exploit was firmware 4.1.0 in 2017. Since then there has not been a single kernel exploit in the OS and that exact OS has now carried over to the Switch 2. Chances are extremely low and well from how things are looking we will likely be approaching the Switch 3 or whatever its called launch before we truly have good Switch 2 emulation.
Emulate Swatch 2 for what, another toony Zero Dawn clone without any voice acting? Or Forza Horizon without any real cars, nor set in Mexico?
Danger zone big N entered with SW2 is it basically being a very, very shitty gaming PC predominantly for better 3rd party support they'll snuff since that's how they do.
Consoles being "ahead of PC" in overall terms pretty much flipped around PS3 with consoles getting lower-specced ports of PC greats. Nowadays, biggest AAA corpos finally realized that cutting a growing number of their possible profits by omitting PC market is foolish, and that's been squeezing console market even harder. And now we have a new wave of portable/cheap-ish dedicated gaming PCs like Steam Derp and Legion GO that further marginalize the console market. And the scene works diligently at making emus that proper PCs can handle well, albeit without easy multiplayer.
Edit: I just thought of a better example, Game Key Cards situation is very similar to the Satellaview, many years from now when we finally get a proper Switch 2 emulator it'll be a hunting game to find systems that happen to have this game or that game and good luck being able to dump the data successfully.
But, what game exactly? Worthwhile, especially for the money, N exclusives have been high and very dry since Swatch 1 launch in all damn honestly, and majority of the library was poor-ish ports from PC and other consoles. I highly doubt we'll see something SO ground-breaking on SW2 to merit $450+90 for that one damn game, at least not in the next 2+ years.
Games being on proprietary carts are honestly what kept big N in exclusivity circle of the past. Hardware limitations, despite entire lack of software scrutiny. If you think about it, sure you could get a cheap enough flashcart, but to set it up and esp to patch old games, you needed a PC, and having that PC already opened your entertainment needs to absolutely above and beyond just some Gameboy.
It took around 2 to 3-ish years for the 3DS to get hacked. It also took around 2 to 3-ish years for the Switch to get hacked. (Read; to a functional degree. I know some guys had unsigned code injected into these devices way earlier, but that's not useful to anyone waiting for emulation).
Emulation, in all instances, had only started after the first playable rom-dumps or CFWs came about.
My plan is just "wait and not care". Currently the Switch 2 doesn't even have any good first-party content, and the third party content I already have in my Steam library.
It also took around 2 to 3-ish years for the Switch to get hacked. (Read; to a functional degree. I know some guys had unsigned code injected into these devices way earlier, but that's not useful to anyone waiting for emulation).
To functional degree you had already in June 2018 (with TX stealing Atmosphere work-in-progress code, slapping piracy stuff on top of it in nice package and shipping it). You could already write homebrew before that. RetroArch was already available since October 2018 which should give you a nice hint how mature was scene then already.
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