Switch 2: data gathering for possible modchip attack vectors

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I'm just shocked that scires even chimed into this thread in the first place. IIRC, he isn't even going to be spending that much time hacking the console as Atmosphere is still technically under active development. We're gonna need a genius and a miracle if anyone hopes to crack the Switch 2, let alone with a modchip.
 
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This, and the "it'll get cracked sometime", are silly arguments. Security is never about being foolproof and unbreakable, it's about delaying the bad actors for long enough that it no longer matters. If it takes 20 - 30 years to break the Switch 2 no one will care. This is by most definitions perfectly secure.
I think what you're saying is true in some ways, but what's even more true is that what you're saying about 20 to 30 years is absurd and completely flawed. It doesn't even make sense that you used that amount of time as an example. Or do you have any real examples you can compare it to?
 
I think what you're saying is true in some ways, but what's even more true is that what you're saying about 20 to 30 years is absurd and completely flawed. It doesn't even make sense that you used that amount of time as an example. Or do you have any real examples you can compare it to?
It wasn't a prediction if that's what your asking. It was an example of how security is focused on delaying, not 100% prevention. Those hanging their hat on "some time" or "nothing is unbreakable" are clinging to these as they are true, but they are not predictive of when. It could potentially take so long to find/implement that it no longer matters. This is the goal of any security. Make it take too long to be worth the effort or in some cases increase the odds that one will be caught in the act.
 
that vid from geekerwan just dropped :

Let me just say, if someone somehow manages to hack the NS2 in less than a year, please wait at least two years to release whatever you've got. Nintendo deserves its credit and revenue from its products, so if someone manages to do it in a short amount of time, please don't ruin Nintendo, because in my opinion, it will ruin all of us.
 
Let me just say, if someone somehow manages to hack the NS2 in less than a year, please wait at least two years to release whatever you've got. Nintendo deserves its credit and revenue from its products, so if someone manages to do it in a short amount of time, please don't ruin Nintendo, because in my opinion, it will ruin all of us.
Like piracy ruined switch 1 and Nintendo revenue. Oh wait.

Piracy if it ever happens, will very probably be enabled by hardware modding that will be as (if not more) complicated to implement as switch1 OLED modchip (which is: not straight forward at all). The layman will still not want to temper with the device and void warranty. So unless Nintendo seriously fucks up and there's a extraordinary case of unpatchable hardware bug that can be soft jailbreaked, piracy will stay the same thorn in BigN's rhino skin.

GTX 1050 Ti performance for 450USD, basically. "They deserve it" is an understatement.
 
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Let me just say, if someone somehow manages to hack the NS2 in less than a year, please wait at least two years to release whatever you've got. Nintendo deserves its credit and revenue from its products, so if someone manages to do it in a short amount of time, please don't ruin Nintendo, because in my opinion, it will ruin all of us.
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To have SciresM to respond here is nothing short of thank you worthy.

Thank you firstly SciresM for everything you've done for this scene and secondly for responding here.

I do have a few questions if I may.

Obviously glitching is is almost likely completely unfeasible.

1) Obvious goals here would be to find a userland/kernel exploit, which would allow homebrew, which sadly will always be patched, the goal as most want is piracy, I do not as you do not also, want piracy... is there any known flaws in the current HorizonOS code that you know of that may be useable for a software based exploit on SW2? I understand obviously it may not be as straight forward as that, but to at least allow some form of homebrew via known exploit as I am assuming that the new horizonOS for SW2 will likely be based off of the same NX horizon code...

2) Do you know of any other additional security implementations that the SW2 has that the NX does not?

3) SW2 uses a translation layer to essentially emulate SW1 games, do you think something like mig-flash now that the NX Lotus cart encryption has been cracked that there could be some movement with an exploit via this route? again I understand Nintendo may have a work around for this these kinds of products for obvious reasons.

4) What would hypotheses will be the entry point into a hacked (homebrewed) SW2 be?

5) Will you be looking into hacking the SW2?

And lastly thank you, as someone with such a interest in hacking, I wish I could learn more deeply as to what you know from someone like you!
lotus hasn't been cracked, mig just works by completely emulating a legit cartridge (eg. the switch doesn't and can't see the difference). mig also can't run unsigned code, so it is completely useless as an attack vector.

best believe that nintendo locked down whatever environment the switch 1 games run in as tight as possible
 
I'd just like to remind you just how borderline miraculous hacking and emulating the switch was with NVidia's fuckup making a one (1) in a billion (1,000,000,000) opportunity, the Architecture being known (ARM for CPU and Maxwell 1.0 for GPU), the fact there were other devices that used similar hardware that could be dissected without needing to use a Switch (Nvidia Shield TV), and much lower power draw and output, and it STILL took 6 months for Yuzu to reach the earliest stages where anything could be deemed "playable" (even with what "allegedly" happened behind the scenes with Yuzu before it's takedown), and Ryujinx taking even longer to hit the scene.

It's going to take far longer with how likely any of those factors will be recreated all at the same time with the Switch 2 as The Tegra T239 SoC used this time hasn't been found in any other devices yet, the power draw and output will be much higher, and Nintendo will no doubt make damn sure that Nvida won't fuck up again.

And if it does miraculously happens?, well it'd be only a matter of time before idiot normies and pirates who have no perception of consequences start posting it on replies to every Nintendo owned social media account trying to "own" le ebel company and give the project heat that it absolutely does not need.
 
Serials and initial dates on first start:
HAW7002 26/3/2025 (this was a Mario Kart World bundle, in a proper bundle box, and had a code to redeem)
HAW7042 25/4/2025
 
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