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Super Slim PS3 set for October Launch

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raulpica said:
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As mentioned earlier this model (if it even exists) is most likely catering towards the media-oriented side of the PS3. I mean it's still a Bluray player and it has access to Netflix, Hulu Plus, etc. It can also do some gaming most likely or there's some option for expanding memory.

Try to step away from the whole "Playstation" branding and think of it as a Sony media player instead.
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It rings a bell. A bell of failure named PSX, but oh well, who am I to judge Sony's decisions.

I seriously hope for Sony that they've got a way for it to expand its memory, otherwise I can already foresee hordes of angry moms and dads asking why their son can't install the latest PS3 game which requires a 13GB install :P
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I mean I think this is a bad decision as well but it does have a bit more to its purpose since the PS3 actually does a lot of non-gaming shit.

In all honesty, for around $250 you get a 160GB PS3 if you're a gamer. That's more than enough. If you want a Bluray player with Netflix and shit, this for a lesser price is available.
 
Foxi4 said:
raulpica said:
I'll just chime in something. Nintendo may place small Flash memories in their system (4GBs or 8GBs respectively, if you're talking about Wii/WiiU), but at least the 60% of the games out there on Wii (and for WiiU I guess too) won't require you a darned 12-minutes long install to HDD, which will occupy you from 2GBs to 6-7GBs or even more.

If there is someone pulling something out there, it's Sony.

...I can still painfully remember me waiting 15 minutes for MGS4 to start, eager as I was to play it :(
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True, but how big was the Data Install again? Several GB's? Ah, that's right. And from a slow BluRay drive? Yes, it was. That's the reason.

And what kind of a drive the WiiU has...? Oh, a BluRay derrivative... And it will most likely require what...? Ah, Data Installs again, surely... And what do you need to use several GB's large Data Installs? Ah, storage... storage you won't have.

So, picture this... Installing the same install over a slightly faster BluRay drive and... bottlenecking it with the USB external drive.

Have fun.

Y'see, I don't mean this maliciously - I genuienly worry that the WiiU will have to use temporary installs or mandatory external storage. This is bad for the consumer, for you guys.
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What makes you think that Nintendo has a need for an installation process of games? I thought the phrase " does what Nintendon't" was still in affect, not "Nintendo must do what has been doing". When was the last time Nintendo did what the competition would consider traditional?

I had mentioned already in another thread about this sort of subject, but I might as well bring it up since you can't seem to stop talking about it. The PS3 has a 2x BR drive. The WiiU has a 5x BR drive. That's already a 2.5x faster transfer rate. As much as PS3 games install stuff onto the HDD for faster access, it still has to load stuff form the drive, so now it has to fight between fast loading and slow loading, with the latter being the bottleneck. Now, about installation. Why do games like on the PS3 require installation? There is the quick access to common data, but that quick access comes in the form of decompressed assets. Assets that don't change over time, but need speedy access to. It would be silly to keep them in their compressed state, and that just requires extra time to get the necessary data. Now, take a look at the WiiU. What makes you think it will require that? We don't have the detailed specifics of it, so who is to say that it must follow the path already laid? For all we know, the WiiU has hardware that decompresses such assets on the fly, or even uses the assets in their compressed form, which already take up less space, and would therefore be within the limits of the transfer rate of the BR or external storage device to have such assets loaded just as fast as if it had to load from a speedy internal HDD. The WiiU isn't the PS3, so no one can say it is forced into the same situation that the PS3 is in. This is tech that is years ahead of the current gen tech.

Is it a bad theory? It is just as valid as thinking that "this company did it, so this other company has to do it".
 
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I'm not even talking about the companies involved - I'm talking about the technology used. BluRay is not exactly the quickest and with the sheer size of the games stored on those discs, it's no wonder they require Data Installs. Optical drives tend to require them nowadays, heck, even Peace Walker on the PSP needed a Data Install because the UMD couldn't keep up. It's natural to expect them given the setup, but I'm eager to see what Nintendo has in-store. I'm merely voicing out my well-motivated concern.
 
Given what p1ng said, I sincerely hope they have a firmware update coming up that'll "allow" the use of external storage. As much as it may be a bottleneck, at least it'll allow the user to, y'know, play games on their PS3. Otherwise... Well, bye bye, Gran Turismo 5 and other games that require large installs.
 
This really reminds me of the 4 Gb 360 with its external memory. Hopefully they do add USB HDDs to the PS3 so that I could hook up one of my externals to my PS3 instead of changing the 160 Gb HDD to a bigger one (damn you GT5!)..
 
Well, people ignorant of the space games require might buy this. Other than that, I don't get what they're going for. Increased sales? Oh Sony, you make me laugh.
 
Foxi4 said:
The Nintendo Path also doesn't have DVD support or BluRay support
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Wait, so you're telling us that there are still people out there who don't have at least one DVD player already? Surely, you jest!! But 12GB for the super slim version of the PS3? Why Sony is making a model revision this late in the cycle is beyond me.

People bitching and trying to figure out why Nintendo consoles don't have DVD playback is like trying to figure out why people refuse to give up Internet Explorer; people don't care, that's why. Almost every person has a DVD player in one form or another; those who don't are most likely old farts who have a twenty year-old VCR.
 
As my thread got closed

It only seems like a matter of time now before Sony reveals its long-rumoured PS3 Super Slim model and that's to an ad in a Polish trade magazine, it seems like that time may be as soon as Tokyo Game Show.

Polish site Polygamia spotted the ad in a newsletter from electronics store chain Media Expert which shows a mystery PS3 model, followed by a date of September 28.
This date follows Sony's TGS conference that kicks off on Wednesday September 26th at 5am GMT, suggesting that we could see the new PS3 ship a matter of days after it is announced at TGS.

Current rumours suggest that the PS3 Super Slim will consist of two models - a 12GB machine for 199 euros and a 500GB model for 299 euros.

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maybe September instead of October
 
You guys are getting too debatable over this..
  • Competition against Slim Xbox 360
  • Cheapest PS3 released yet.
  • 160 GB and 320 GB will probably get slimmed too.
  • PS3 owners can easily transfer current HDD into it.

What's not to like?

My dream: A faster Blu-ray drive, for quicker loading times! Similar to the PSP-2000 having more RAM to help with loading. I doubt they'll do it though..
 
Rumoured for some time now, Sony has announced today at its pre-TGS press conference that it will be releasing a new model of the PlayStation 3.

The new model is 25% smaller and 20% lighter than the current model, and will come in two flavours: 250GB and 500GB. It'll also be available in two colours, white and black.
The black console will be out on October 4, while the white model will be out on November 22.
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While missing from Japan and North America's reveals, the PAL announcement for the new super slim PS3 contains something interesting: there's a model that doesn't have a hard drive.
Available only in Europe, Hong Kong and Australasia, and replacing the 250GB model available elsewhere, this particular PS3 will instead pack 12GB of flash memory, turning it into the PlayStation's rough equivalent of the Xbox 360's 4GB version. The 500GB version will still be available in those territories.

Those purchasing the 12GB model will still be able to upgrade and drop a HDD in there later; the only change is that when they do, that 12GB will no longer be available for internal storage.

This HDD-less PS3 will be released on September 27 in Australia and October 12 in Europe. It'll be priced at €229 / AUD$300.
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