Yup, and no telling when/if that will happen anytime soon. We have a lot done on the Wii U as it is, however, it all seems to require the web exploit. However, I have an idea....but odds are it won't be possible. If you remember the PS3 CFW, it would let you install FW from USB...MAYBE if some-how we could get a FW update that could be installed from USB that was "signed" or has a "fake sign" on it, then we could get RedNAND to be a "Native" NAND...or maybe edit a game to tell you to update regardless of firmware (maybe tell it to see if you are on 9.9.9), if not, then have you update with a RedNAND FW file...doubt that would be possible...but a good thought still