Hacking Speculations about Switch 2 hacking

[Marc_LFD]

The problem is people are pissed they can't pirate games yet and will spout any nonsense they can about it until they can.

Which games? Certainly not exclusives as there's hardly any.

 

[FernandoRocker]

Which games? Certainly not exclusives as there's hardly any.

More exclusives in the same timeframe than the PS5 and XSX.

 

[Ettino]

All these just to pirate Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen.

 

[Marc_LFD]

More exclusives in the same timeframe than the PS5 and XSX.

For me there's still hardly any games I'm interested on the PS5 and even though I have a hacked console, I haven't made much use. I prefer my hacked PS4 Pro.

 

[karmesin]

BTW:

 

[FernandoRocker]

BTW:

The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DCLS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits.

 

[karmesin]

The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DCLS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits.

It wasn’t this specific exploit I was talking about, just a fresh example of “unhackable, my ass.” There are plenty of others. Most people who start building ultra high-security setups make mistakes exactly in the places they stop paying attention. I personally know someone who installed a multi-layered security system at home. alarm system, fingerprint access, the whole package... and then left a ladder next to the house and an unsecured window.

Comparable? No. Directly transferable? Absolutely not. An isolated case? Definitely not.

BTW: microsoft claimed to be secure against voltage glitching as well, just sayin...

 

[dreassica]

It wasn’t this specific exploit I was talking about, just a fresh example of “unhackable, my ass.” There are plenty of others. Most people who start building ultra high-security setups make mistakes exactly in the places they stop paying attention. I personally know someone who installed a multi-layered security system at home. alarm system, fingerprint access, the whole package... and then left a ladder next to the house and an unsecured window.

Comparable? No. Directly transferable? Absolutely not. An isolated case? Definitely not.

BTW: microsoft claimed to be secure against voltage glitching as well, just sayin...

Did they claim that at the launch of the One? Or later, because, as per the original source, the hack only wqorks for the original model. Not S and X, and I presume Series S/X will be the same.

 

[mad_dog]

The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DCLS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits.

ah.
sh**.
even by "playing" with voltage at the same time on both cores (if this could be possible) ?

 

[FernandoRocker]

ah.
sh**.
even by "playing" with voltage at the same time on both cores (if this could be possible) ?

The voltage would have to be the same at the same time. It would be practically imposible.

 

[mad_dog]

The voltage would have to be the same at the same time. It would be practically imposible.

Gosh.
Just for my understanding : really impossible, or "simply" extremely hard due to synchronization between the 2 cores ?
I don't even know if the bootrom sequence story from the Xbox One does indeed apply to the Switch 2 anyway ?

 

[MopSec]

The voltage would have to be the same at the same time. It would be practically imposible.

Not necessarily. There was a talk at a security conference last year (don't remember if it was OffensiveCon, BlackHat or DEFCON) which focused on glitching microcontrollers using lockstep. The consensus was, that while lockstep does make glitching more difficult, it's definitely not impossible. You could, for example, glitch the compare operation that's happening after any step to make the CPU "believe" the two cores are still in sync, when they actually aren't. But well, wwe'll have to see what this actually means for the Switch 2.

 

[XRTerra]

guys what if we just asked chatgpt it could probably even port Bloodborne to the switch 2

 

[szubiennica]

The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DCLS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits.

so we need to apply same glitch to both cores same time. it may take longer to glitch this precisly but i think itsstill possible

 

[FernandoRocker]

so we need to apply same glitch to both cores same time. it may take longer to glitch this precisly but i think itsstill possible

If only it were that easy then dual core lockstep wouldn't exist.

 

[szubiennica]

I think soldering the chip onto special board is required to install probes. Then reverse engineering the chip.

 

[kbad]

Is this real?

 

[JeezLuise]

Is this real?

Have you checked todays date?

 

[Newhouse-Estates]

Happy april fools everyone.
It's annoying.

 

[karmesin]

Is this real?

if its on twitter - then probably no.