Hacking Sony's ban behaviour

[DinohScene]

Vita related bans happened with unreleased trophies iirc.

 

[GothicIII]

CFW/ODDE/OFW: Can't remember exactly but it was one of the early 4.x Rebug CFWs. Maybe it was still 3.55 but spoofed.
Online multiplayer: No
Connected to PSN: Yes
Homebrew whilst on PSN: Yes
Cheating whilst on PSN: No
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on a separate profile: No
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on your main PSN profile: Yes
If applicable, reason of ban: *
Console ban: Yes
Account ban: Yes
Date of acquiring CFW and date of acquiring ban: First installed 2010 on fw3.55; Banned somewhere Q1/2012
Hours a day of connected to PSN: always when console was on
Hours a day of playing multiplayer games: 0

*=I called sony because of this. They gave me as reason "breaking general business terms" without being concrete at all and declined to unban the console and/or account. Never got a soft ban or warning if that matters. One day I was just perma banned.
I had also a vita which was unaffected except the banned account but luckily it seems it was not possible for them to ban vita's at that time. I was pretty pissed because a week before the ban I bought a psplus subscription for a year and I bought a new PS3 console which was also banned despite just logged in once on OFW; else I wouldn't have complained at all.
Everything I did on that account was playing backups of originals (because the bddrive failed after a while and I did the backups when I realized the drive may fail soon) and synced trophies.

Lesson I learned since then: Never use hacked consoles online if you paid for your games.
Bonus: I learned how to remarry bddrives and howto dump, decrypt and modify the PS3 norflash But I sold all hacked sony consoles a while ago because I had no use for them anymore. I still have all PS consoles released up today and all are on OFW.

 

[horokeusama]

First post in the thread says that you need an antiban eboot to play recent CoD and GTA5. Does that apply only to multiplayer or single player is also affected?

 

[DinohScene]

Those games got checks in the eboots that scan for CFW files/folders.
If it finds those it sends a report to the game servers/Sony servers which allows them to ban you.

 

[horokeusama]

Those games got checks in the eboots that scan for CFW files/folders.
If it finds those it sends a report to the game servers/Sony servers which allows them to ban you.

But what if I play offline?

 

[GothicIII]

But what if I play offline?

What do you think? There is a magic hidden internet connection over GPS which will send the reports to sony...

If you're offline, you're offline. But the reports will be saved and send when you connect the console next time. There should be a method to delete them but I would suggest to never go online with CFW. See my report above.

 

[horokeusama]

What do you think? There is a magic hidden internet connection over GPS which will send the reports to sony...

If you're offline, you're offline. But the reports will be saved and send when you connect the console next time. There should be a method to delete them but I would suggest to never go online with CFW. See my report above.

I understand, but I think you got banned because you didn't use PSNpatch or PSNinja while was logged in your account. And I did some research and couldn't find a single place talking about this "reporting eboot" in any ps3 game. Are you really sure about that or you're just kidding me and I didn't got the sarcasm?

 

[DinohScene]

I understand, but I think you got banned because you didn't use PSNpatch or PSNinja while was logged in your account. And I did some research and couldn't find a single place talking about this "reporting eboot" in any ps3 game. Are you really sure about that or you're just kidding me and I didn't got the sarcasm?

I wish I was kidding.

The entire purpose of this thread is to observe Sony's ban behaviour.
Mostly out of curiosity as I know how MS bans pirates/cheaters.

You need an anti-ban eboot for some COD games and GTA 5 (Destiny and some other as well)
Be it offline or online.
It scans your console for CFW files and if it finds it, reports it to Sony/said game servers.
Be it today or next year or never that you log in, you're fucked either way.
It has found those folders/files (which don't belong on stock HDDs)
Unless you somehow can manage to find the reports and delete them.

Like @GothicIII said, if you want to be 100% safe, never connect to PSN.
You can use PSNpatch and PSNinja to reduce the chances of getting banhammered but nothing is guaranteed safe.

 

[godreborn]

the report may be included in the encrypted file that's created in your profile folder. check psdevwiki to learn more. it will report things like time stamps, plugins being used (including psn patch or sen enabler), router info, etc. a lot of it is in real time, though I wouldn't be surprised if history is in there somewhere. afaik, decrypting the file is doable. reencrypting it correctly is a read flag for sony. further, flatz made a post about firmware 4.30 which introduces new methods to determine if someone is on cfw. one of those is reading the idps to see if it's genuine or what came with the system.

 

[TizioCaio95]

CFW/ODDE/OFW: Yes, Rebug 4.7X (If I remember correctly)
Online multiplayer: Yes
Connected to PSN: Yes
Homebrew whilst on PSN: Yes
Cheating whilst on PSN: Yes
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on a separate profile: No
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on your main PSN profile: Yes
Console ban: Yes
Account ban: No
Date of acquiring CFW and date of acquiring ban: CFW installed in 2014, banned the same year, like 1 month after cfw
Hours a day of connected to PSN: Always
Hours a day of playing multiplayer games: No more than 6 hours a day

*Probably because I opened multiman while I was online (my friend literally saw me playing "MultiMAN") or maybe because I was experimenting with GTA Online Mod Menus

 

[horokeusama]

I wish I was kidding.

You need an anti-ban eboot for some COD games and GTA 5 (Destiny and some other as well)
Be it offline or online.
It scans your console for CFW files and if it finds it, reports it to Sony/said game servers.
Be it today or next year or never that you log in, you're fucked either way.
It has found those folders/files (which don't belong on stock HDDs)
Unless you somehow can manage to find the reports and delete them.

I appreciate your answer, but can you please give me another source of this information? Like another forum posts or somebody else that had this same exact problem with those specific games?

 

[DinohScene]

Seriously!?

Dude, do some google searching.
It's literally plastered all over the web.

 

[godreborn]

those games do check the hdd for specific folders. in fact, even deank has mentioned it. you can't really get anymore reliable source than that.

 

[horokeusama]

Seriously!?

Dude, do some google searching.
It's literally plastered all over the web.

Jeez, forget about it, man. It's *not* everywhere. The only info related to GTA 5 + eboot + reporting + ban (or something like that) are related to game mods, and NOTHING states that this is applied to single player.

 

[godreborn]

ask deank then. he's a member of psx place, and we've actually discussed it before. I'm pinky on there.

 

[horokeusama]

ask deank then. he's a member of psx place, and we've actually discussed it before. I'm pinky on there.

Thanks! I just created a thread there. It might be more useful than posting in this thread.

 

[godreborn]

I'm not sure if you can still be banned by playing either of those games. however, all a game really needs to do is attempt to write a small file to a location it shouldn't have access to. I'm surprised every game doesn't have that function. it's probably due to money and/or time.

 

[Ryccardo]

CFW/ODDE/OFW: Rebug REX 4.81 and Cobra Ferrox 4.82
Online multiplayer: No
Connected to PSN: Yes, always with Webman's R2+triangle
Homebrew whilst on PSN: No
Cheating whilst on PSN: No
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on a separate profile: No
Loading backups via Multiman/Webman on your main PSN profile: Yes

Browsed a couple pages of PS store, downloaded some game updates, "went online" on a recently dead game, screwed around with chat to see if my PS4-owning friend accepted me, synced trophies - everything is still fine yet
Most of the "objectionable" things (changing games very often, trophies earned close in time, DEX system) are on the Vita side

Still true, even with some stuff bought via PC and downloaded on-console (activating just before and deactivating just after)

Therefore it can be proven they don't compare store logs with NPS new releases...

I'm surprised every game doesn't have that function. it's probably due to money and/or time.

Or less anticonsumer developers realizing that obstructing people from getting the legal product helps neither sales of said product nor their reputation?

 

[zeveroth]

I installed modified software on my system and connected to psn, foolishly of course. Anyway, around Xmas last year, Sony banned both my console my PSN account. I kept getting an error code .didn't find what it was. Then a week later I got my email saying I was banned. 10 + yr old account and games gone .oh well, I'll just pirate the shit outta those games now. Lol

 

[Deleted member 388531]

Sony still bans even years after they discontinued the PS3?